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Old 04-23-2014, 05:49 AM   #541
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I met a guy while traveling who went from a 1200RT to a Versys 1k, said
he wanted some more "thrills" and that's exactly what he got with the swap.

He said they're very comparable for touring, yet very different when pushing it.

He also mentioned that the Kawasaki feels smaller, but heavier.
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:20 AM   #542
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Had a quick hour on one this morning. Unusual bike.

Very comfy, reasonably light for a big bike. Quite nimble.

One thing that felt truly strange was the motor. Didn't feel happy revving. Must be a real long stroke motor. Felt much happier short shifting. Didn't have the grin factor that the SX motor has.

Odd world when a Kwak IL4 motor is less of a laugh than a BMW IL4..

Supposedly Kawasaki UK has totally sold out and both the litre and 650 Versys models are getting a big overhaul for 2015..
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:36 AM   #543
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Supposedly Kawasaki UK has totally sold out and both the litre and 650 Versys models are getting a big overhaul for 2015..
Hadn't heard anything about either Versys model getting any form of major update. Would you by chance have a link or two that would lead to more information??

I've been invited to ride a Versys 1000 by my local dealer. Will compare it to the Ninja 1000 I rode recently and enjoyed very much. The thought of an updated Versys 1000 will certainly make things even more interesting.

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Old 06-19-2014, 07:08 AM   #544
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[QUOTE=Paulvt1;24428721]

One thing that felt truly strange was the motor. Didn't feel happy revving. Must be a real long stroke motor. Felt much happier short shifting. Didn't have the grin factor that the SX motor has.

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I agree with this. It's a neutered I-4. The power/torque reminds me on those early liter bikes from the 90's.
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:12 PM   #545
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I actually don't mind that motor characteristics -- the bike is tall and suspension is not at its best in sharp cornering, so why would one want a revvy ZX behaivor in touring beast?
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:33 PM   #546
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New 2012 in Saskatoon

The dealer in Saskatoon has a new 2012 v10000 priced at $10,200. Might be a good step up for the 2008 650 I am on now.
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:43 AM   #547
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Had a quick hour on one this morning. Unusual bike.

Very comfy, reasonably light for a big bike. Quite nimble.

One thing that felt truly strange was the motor. Didn't feel happy revving. Must be a real long stroke motor. Felt much happier short shifting. Didn't have the grin factor that the SX motor has.

Odd world when a Kwak IL4 motor is less of a laugh than a BMW IL4..
Like the computer guys say, it's a feature, not a bug.

When the first Z1000 came out to compete with the FZ1, no one could
understand why they made the Z with "only" 125hp.

But after you ride both (5 minutes will do), you'll soon realize that the
fatter mid range of the Z makes a lot more sense then a screaming FZ1
for 90% of riding situations. For the other 10% you're better off on a R1
anyways.

Now, in a Versys 1k, it makes EVEN MORE sense to have the engine tuned
for low to mid range torque, especially when most (virtually all) of it's
competitors have big torquey twins. A screaming I4 is not something
that would make long distance touring comfortable, IMO.

If you want that kind of an engine, you're probably looking at the wrong
kind of bike to begin with (a big fat and tall touring pig).

Don't get me wrong, I got a bike that redlines at 14k revs now, but I'd rather
travel around on a NC750X with a 6250 redline, even if it has half the power
of my bike.
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:52 AM   #548
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I agree completely.

I would also rather have a strong midrange, instead of high peak power where I will seldom, if ever, wind the tach needle. I want my bike to accelerate strongly in top gear for quick passes.
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Old 06-20-2014, 07:09 AM   #549
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I agree completely.

I would also rather have a strong midrange, instead of high peak power where I will seldom, if ever, wind the tach needle. I want my bike to accelerate strongly in top gear for quick passes.
I just came back from a 1500 mile trip on my FZ6 and spent most of the
time in the 4000 to 6000 rev range. While I was faster then 99% of traffic,
I had to downshift a lot to "get away", and with +1 tooth up front I often
had to overtake in 2nd gear that now reaches 99mph indicated.

While that's a lot of fun, it attracts a lot of unwanted attention, and I'd rather
ZOOM past on a ZX14 in 6th and no one will ever know I just went from
50 to 100 in 2,X seconds.

The dream!
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:48 AM   #550
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Versys Mil in 2015 will probably not go without beak



There're also speculations on the V-800 based on Z800 version

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Old 07-13-2014, 10:53 AM   #551
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I could live with that 800.
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:47 PM   #552
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Versys Mil in 2015 will probably not go without beak



There're also speculations on the V-800 based on Z800 version

I can't figure out if those big blue things are supposed to be lobster claws or dolphin heads...

I like the red one better.
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:19 PM   #553
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I can't figure out if those big blue things are supposed to be lobster claws or dolphin heads...

I like the red one better.
I'm glad to see the cyclops headlight design gone. I also like the red one better though I'm no fan of the beak fad. For the blue one, what is it with Kawi designs lately? It's like they hired some guy from the Japanese cartoon world.
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:37 PM   #554
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Versys Mil in 2015 will probably not go without beak



There're also speculations on the V-800 based on Z800 version

Top one is BS.

Bottom one is, allegedly, a fair representation.
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:39 PM   #555
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Top one is BS.

Bottom one is, allegedly, a fair representation.
IMO the red one looks HIDEOUS so I hope it's just a bad photo shop. The blue looks good (not great) enough that I would consider buying it. Neither bike is likely to be available in the U.S. however, so it doesn't matter what I think.
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