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Old 05-07-2014, 02:05 PM   #1306
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I hadn't seen this one linked before - http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/...igh-costs.html



























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Old 05-07-2014, 03:12 PM   #1307
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I hadn't seen this one linked before - http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/...igh-costs.html


Nice setup but I don't like the idea of having to crawl over someone to get into, or out of the bedroom.
Crawling on hands and knees doesn't work either.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:18 PM   #1308
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Nice setup but I don't like the idea of having to crawl over someone to get into, or out of the bedroom.
Crawling on hands and knees doesn't work either.
Depends on who you are crawling over? but after the third night it might get a bit old

I kinda like this one, if I was on my own. I see these small set ups and think I would go spare when I need my own space some times.

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Old 05-07-2014, 08:30 PM   #1309
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Nice setup but I don't like the idea of having to crawl over someone to get into, or out of the bedroom.
Crawling on hands and knees doesn't work either.
True, but it would probably work just as well with the bed turned the other way and you just had to crawl out towards the foot of the bed?
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:24 AM   #1310
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True, but it would probably work just as well with the bed turned the other way and you just had to crawl out towards the foot of the bed?
Stumbling down a ladder at 3am to get to your crapper gets old faster than crawling over your gf, in my experience. But if I was honest w/ myself, I could tolerate it most of the time, unless I were drunk off my ass.

He openly admits in his blog that he doesn't have a good answer to how to handle water service or sewer lines, since he's planning on in-board holding tanks and garden hose water supply, heat tape to keep those things patent in winter months. Going to be difficult to actually do that w/ shower drain to consider. In truth the tanks will sit under chassis like a normal rv, w/ heat tape and heat pads to the exit port. Have fun dumping your frozen lines. I wonder if he's going to bother w/ a proper septic leach field. Nah, better to have to dump 30 gallons every other day.

Fully sealed foamed in construction. He expounds upon the need to install a ventilation fan, bcs his box is sealed up tight, w/ significant moisture generators (shower, propane, and 3 bodies). Great...One well ventilated corner of the house forcing air exchange to handle moisture control. Not what I'd call well thought out.

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Old 05-08-2014, 03:29 PM   #1311
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In truth, you don't have to do much with shower, sink and laundry water. When I lived in the mountains, we used biodegradable products and just ran it all down a hose into the yard where it was split to water things. The property at the time had a very old and very marginal septic system, and it couldn't handle normal use. The occasional toilet flush was about it.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:01 PM   #1312
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:25 PM   #1313
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:27 PM   #1314
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Nice setup but I don't like the idea of having to crawl over someone to get into, or out of the bedroom.
Crawling on hands and knees doesn't work either.
The bedroom needs a bit more thought, but I think this one is better than most in design and execution, I like the outdoor propane porch and storage.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:25 AM   #1315
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I think my house moves a tiny bit almost every day. It sure creaks and pops and groans a lot.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:21 AM   #1316
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Here's an interesting site that might be useful as a source of ideas for those looking at building a little house.

http://accessorydwellings.org/

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Old 05-09-2014, 11:09 AM   #1317
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In truth, you don't have to do much with shower, sink and laundry water. When I lived in the mountains, we used biodegradable products and just ran it all down a hose into the yard where it was split to water things. The property at the time had a very old and very marginal septic system, and it couldn't handle normal use. The occasional toilet flush was about it.
If all you're putting down the drain is shampoo and Ivory Soap, that's great. You can make a great hobby out of grey water management. But that's not all you're going to be putting down your primary residence's drain. Sometimes, you actually need to clean your oven. Sometimes you actually have solids/chemicals/crap in there that are a pain in the ass to filter out, and yet not what you want to water your tomatoes with. It happens. Even it it only happens 5% of the days that you use it...5% of full time living, that's still 55 days out of the year that your less-than-substantial waste-water management solution is a headache for you. That's a lousy service level to shoot for. Architects and designers should really be required to do service level math on the shit they design. If the little house movement is about being zen with your environment, one thing I think is pretty important to factor in is the fact that such a notion is aspirational. You're gonna fail at it...some of the time. Want success? Design for your aspirations. But plan for failure.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:32 PM   #1318
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Actually, we never put any chemicals down our drains. Or solids. I can't think of a case where it was needed. If we had anything nasty, it went in the garbage and was picked up by waste management. Anything that fell into the chemical catagory, which was usually motor vehicle related, went to the local recycling station. I don't think it was that difficult of a lifestyle.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:47 PM   #1319
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http://www.harvestingrainwater.com/g...nd-detergents/

Here's a good primer on greywater friendly soaps.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:30 PM   #1320
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Stumbling down a ladder at 3am to get to your crapper gets old faster than crawling over your gf, in my experience. But if I was honest w/ myself, I could tolerate it most of the time, unless I were drunk off my ass.

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This whole idea of ship ladders, no guard rails etc. prevalent in most of these micro homes, is flat out stupid. Trendy, but guaranteed to end up with an unhappy ending if you spend enough time temping fate. I recall a few years back when a local headed up to his remote hunting cabin, by himself, for a quiet weekend. When he didn't show up by Monday morning, the family asked for a welfare check. The state police found him dead at the bottom of the loft ladder, with a broken neck. The coroner determined that he had became disoriented, and walked off the edge of the unguarded loft in the middle of the night.
It's a bit hard to believe that the hipster aesthetic shown in most of these faux houses is worth dying for?
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