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Old 04-28-2014, 07:05 PM   #91
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Blasted some bits and got some paint back on em (I know, wrong shade of green).

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Cleaned up the block..

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and found this.

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Old 04-28-2014, 07:06 PM   #92
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I'm tempted to try brazing it, but I just found THESE on craigslist:


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He's asking less than what a rebuild kit/bore/crank turn and associated time would cost. Not sure if they'll work- the tags on them are apparently scratched up but he's going to measure the cranks and send me some more pics.

Of course, the red will have to go.

some more pics of the engine...


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There are a few minor differences from what I can see of the block, but I think it should work fine. Can almost see the first couple of spec numbers in that last pic.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:41 PM   #93
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Bench tested the new engine the other day. Filled the float bowl up with gas, put in a new plug, squirted some gas in and after a few yanks it fired right up! Ran long enough to suck all of the gas out of the carb with nary a hiccup. Sweet! My seat-of-the-pants compression gauge says this motor is in pretty good shape. Not sure what it came off of but I don't think it saw a ton of use. Had to knock about 8 lbs of old dust and gunk off of it and underneath looks like new.

This little recessed part of the block had me worried, but its only a belt guard that bolts on here and I think the new engine is how its supposed to be...

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Cranks match on both ends, although the flywheels are different. Not a problem though, was only planning on using basically the short block of the new engine.

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This could be a problem. Doesnt want to budge, AT ALL.

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Going to be using the older style ignition, so this coil will be coming out.

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Cleaned it up a bit,

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And riveted the tag back on the shroud.

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Makin progress!

More done on the new engine. Pulled head. Pretty carboned up but the bore looks good and the piston seems tight. Valves look pretty good too.

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Did some more cleanup to the block then pulled some more bits off.

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Kinda bothered by that missing cooling fin chunk. Its behind a cover and the cover has no dings in it so who knows how it happened. At least its not missing a chunk of cylinder!

Crank looks good to.

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Rod has a small problem. The safety wire gizzy is all chewed up?!

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Its supposed to have to strips of metal that connect the "washers" over the rod cap. Found one in the pan, but the other is MIA. Not sure what I'm going to do about that. Was planning on just doing gaskets and maybe a hone and rings but I dont think it even needs that- but I doubt I can find that bolt retainer thingy as a separate part from the rod. Might try making one, I'll have to think on it.

Also painted the old oil pan (going to use that one so the drain is in the right place) and the tank.

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Old 05-02-2014, 07:28 PM   #94
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This'll come in handy...

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Got after the stuck pipe. Nothing a little (er... a lot) of heat, a big hammer, and a chisel cant handle.

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More cleaning on the block.

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and a hone job.

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Need to measure it again but the bore was pretty darn good. Showed a little wear, but no out of round or taper. Crank measured within tolerances as well.

Current plan: Order the "rebuild kit" from ebay with the gaskets, rod, piston, rings, and points. Lap valves, put together with new bits, and be good to go.

Problem is I had figured this engine was good to go so I had already ordered just a gasket set... So now I'm thinking maybe I'll try brazing the other block and slapping it back together with the leftover parts from the new engine and just see how it runs. Meh... Why bother. Dunno, undecided there.

Course, also got a little paint on too.

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Old 05-02-2014, 10:51 PM   #95
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So now I'm thinking maybe I'll try brazing the other block and slapping it back together with the leftover parts from the new engine and just see how it runs.
Do you have the means to magnaflux the block? That crack may extend farther than you can see. If you can find the actual ends, you may want to drill a couple of mm past the ends of the cracks, then braze. The holes will help keep the crack from propagating by breaking up the pathway from the fractured metal to virgin material. Any flexing will be absorbed by the holes.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:49 AM   #96
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I don't know of anyone locally that can magnaflux. I'm probably not going bother with that one anyways. Havent decided but not feeling it if you know what I mean.

Got the block painted. Went over it with the torch to make sure any oil was burned off and masked it off.

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First coat.

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All done!

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Almost out of paint have have several more bits to do. Stupid CAL Ranch hasn't restocked in a couple of months so I'm going to start calling them every day until they get it in. Sick of dealing with them but its that or pay way more to have it shipped.
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:32 PM   #97
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Cleaned up the valves and gave them a lapping.

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Got to looking at the exhaust valves. The "original" engine's exhaust valve is slightly longer. Someone mentioned I should use the rotator from that engine. Looks like even though the valve was longer, the keeper and rotator will fit fine.

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Got 'em all installed fine,

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But I have a question here.

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I used the old spring that was on the rotator. It looks way stouter than the one that was in there (it was identical to the one on the intake). Should I be worried that the valve was longer, and therefore the spring is now probably tighter? It looks like it sits lower because of the rotator.

Got a few other bits painted.

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Worked on chasing threads and sorting out new hardware too.

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Thats it for now. Rebuild kit should be here by Wednesday.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:03 PM   #98
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But I have a question here.




I used the old spring that was on the rotator. It looks way stouter than the one that was in there (it was identical to the one on the intake). Should I be worried that the valve was longer, and therefore the spring is now probably tighter? It looks like it sits lower because of the rotator.
I'd think a longer stem would lead to less spring tension, not more. Coil bind is the thing to watch out for, but you don't appear to be anywhere near it. Check clearances once you have a cam in it, and make sure the longer stem doesn't keep the valve from closing or push the valve up far enough to hit the head.

How is lash adjusted?
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:14 PM   #99
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Lash is adjusted by grinding the valve stem shorter.

I'm pretty sure the slot where the keepers clip on to the valve were in the same place, just the older one had a little more length AFTER the groove. It shouldn't matter either way, as long as you use the right tappet with the valve. I re-used the valve and tappet that came out of this engine, so they matched just fine. Just the spring and rotator came out of the other engine.

Cam is in, lash is perfect. Think I'm good to go on the valves.

Ordered this the other day, sposed to be here by Wednesday.

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Cleaned the patio off today which meant I had to move everything. Took the opportunity to pressure wash the gunk off the RF while I had the pressure washer going.

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And a group photo while I was at it.

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Old 05-05-2014, 04:52 PM   #101
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Today's accomplishments. Some more sandblasting and painting.

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And just for fun, all of the parts so far:

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And set together loose with no internals.

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Old 05-07-2014, 07:56 PM   #102
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Few more parts done.

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Made a new glass for the gas cap. Plastic is way too thick but this is more of a test to see how it holds up to gas. Still need to put a vent hole in it.

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Old 05-08-2014, 08:56 PM   #103
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Daily update. Got the breather put back together and on, the governor blade set on loose, and new points on. Also got the generator bracket and oil seal in.

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Oil seal in the other side, right set of gaskets in, torqued the bolts, gaped the crank end play. Think thats all good to go.

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Pine-sol dipped the carb. After stage one (24 hr minimum soak in Pine-sol, rinse with hot water).

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After blow drying, carb cleaner, blowing everything off again, spraying with WD-40 just in case, and final assembly.

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Not too bad, considering it looked like this before:

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Paint.

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Set together the coil bits loose.

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Getting closer!

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And THIS finally showed up tonight. Now we can get serious!

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Anyone want to buy a complete gasket set for a K181 seeing as I now have an extra?
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:36 AM   #104
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Puttered around a bit more yesterday after school. Hoping to have it done by the time schools out, so I can have my messes all cleaned up for the summer. Got the rings on the piston and the piston on the rod.

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Got them installed, with the marks matching on the rod and cap and the hole towards the camshaft. The kit came with some instructions, and judging by the amount of information and the number of times stated, this is an important and often overlooked detail... Near as I can figure when the dipper on the rod hits the oil, it shovels some up into that hole lubing the rod on the crank pin. If its in backwards, no oil is getting splashed into the hole because of the direction the engine spins, and *boom*.

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Of course, lots of fresh oil during assembly.

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Got the oil pan installed along with the coil and brackets. Pretty sure I got the drain plug facing the right direction...

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Flywheel.

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Air cleaner base mounted on the carb.

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Swapped the studs over from the other block.

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Set the head on and got the carb bolted up.

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Getting close! Several things left to do- adjust points, governor, torque head bolts, wire points / coil / plug, got one bolt hole for the shroud that needs to be helicoiled, put all the tin on, and bench test it. Hoping to have it done by next week.
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