diesel batter vs motorcycle battery

walkingbear · 11-26-2006, 09:17 AM

Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary Replacement

Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary

The Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary cross-references to the following:

Westco 12VX30L-B
Price Each	$99.95
Manufacturer	Westco
Model	12VX30L-B
Weight	22
Volts	12
Amp-Hour	30
CCA	400
Length	6.5625
Width	5
Height	6.875
Terminals	Front Mount Female
Warranty	1 Year
Chemistry	SLA
Polarity	\|- +\|
Time to Ship	1-2 days

motorcycle battery
The BMW R100GS, PD, R, RS, RT Motorcycle Battery (1987-1995) cross-references to the following:

Westco 12V30
Price Each	$99.95
Manufacturer	Westco
Model	12V30
Weight	24
Volts	12
Amp-Hour	30
CCA	350
Length	6.5
Width	4.875
Height	6.875
Terminals	Internal Female Thread
Warranty	1 Year
Chemistry	SLA
Polarity	\|- +\|
Time to Ship	1-2 days

thinking this has more cranking power..

Am I off .. in this thinking.. about the same size.. same price

walkingbear · 11-28-2006, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingbear

Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary Replacement

Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary

The Polaris Diesel 0.445 Liter ATV Battery (1999-2003) - Primary cross-references to the following:

Westco 12VX30L-B
Price Each	$99.95
Manufacturer	Westco
Model	12VX30L-B
Weight	22
Volts	12
Amp-Hour	30
CCA	400
Length	6.5625
Width	5
Height	6.875
Terminals	Front Mount Female
Warranty	1 Year
Chemistry	SLA
Polarity	\|- +\|
Time to Ship	1-2 days

motorcycle battery
The BMW R100GS, PD, R, RS, RT Motorcycle Battery (1987-1995) cross-references to the following:

Westco 12V30
Price Each	$99.95
Manufacturer	Westco
Model	12V30
Weight	24
Volts	12
Amp-Hour	30
CCA	350
Length	6.5
Width	4.875
Height	6.875
Terminals	Internal Female Thread
Warranty	1 Year
Chemistry	SLA
Polarity	\|- +\|
Time to Ship	1-2 days

thinking this has more cranking power..

Am I off .. in this thinking.. about the same size.. same price

I just measure the box ..it will fit .. I will try it ..
2lbs lighter, more CCA ..same price.

datchew · 11-28-2006, 05:54 AM

I'd offer an opinion if I though I knew anything about batteries that could help.

Please let us know how it works out.

Hopefully some battery guru will chime in.

jtwind · 11-28-2006, 05:59 AM

I've been using the Westco/Panasonic batteries for 5 years now. I've had no problems with them. I've been told that they can fail without warning you like wet batteries sometimes do. I've yet to have that happen but I do replace them every 3 years. Digikey has very good prices on them. JT

walkingbear · 11-28-2006, 06:17 AM

I was talking to a master mechanic at the auto stores about the difference
in diesel vs regular batteries. His opinion was that .. the diesel provide more CCA and would last longer. Since my GS battery is two old and
having a harder time cranking the 9.5 pistons.. why not try it?

jtwind · 11-28-2006, 06:28 AM

If it fits there isn't a good reason not to try it. If you have to hack up the battery box that's a good enough reason for me not to do it. But hacking up your's is up to you.

No one I know pays the $99.95 for the Westco/Panasonic they are $62 from Digikey. JT

hogmolly · 11-28-2006, 06:31 AM

What I would like to see is a small 1" long extension for the rubber battery cables (my dreams are meager).

wintonio · 12-05-2006, 06:01 AM

I looked on digikey, and the panasonic battery there was described as a leak free or leak proof sealed laed acid battery. Is this the same as a gel battery, or is it just a leak proof battery? Also, JT mentions a westco/panasonic battery, and all that are listed are BB's and Panasonics. Is it a W/P just because you know it is?
the reason I ask is because I am having battery problems, I think. When my bike is cold, and the temp is cold, and I have been riding around town during the day, it is nearly impossible to start, and I fear getting stranded. Also, I do not know what is "normal" because i just got my bike, and am still learning about it's habits.

datchew · 12-05-2006, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintonio

I looked on digikey, and the panasonic battery there was described as a leak free or leak proof sealed laed acid battery. Is this the same as a gel battery, or is it just a leak proof battery? Also, JT mentions a westco/panasonic battery, and all that are listed are BB's and Panasonics. Is it a W/P just because you know it is?
the reason I ask is because I am having battery problems, I think. When my bike is cold, and the temp is cold, and I have been riding around town during the day, it is nearly impossible to start, and I fear getting stranded. Also, I do not know what is "normal" because i just got my bike, and am still learning about it's habits.

I'm no battery genius, but a gel battery will actually say "gel" on it. Lead/acid can be spillproof or "maintenance free" but they're still a different animal than the gel-cell.

You can probably find enough info to make you nauseous if you google it.

jtwind · 12-05-2006, 07:09 AM

The westco/panasonic is a sealed mat battery and not a gel battery. I'm sorry if my westco/panasonic label confused people. They are labeled either westco or panasonic but are the same battery. I'm not sure who makes it westco or panasonic. On the digikey site you find it by the amp rating, the battery for the /5's and the g/s is a 20 amp battery the larger battery for gs's and rt's etc. is 28 amp. JT

wintonio · 12-05-2006, 07:31 AM

thank you

11-28-2006, 05:54 AM	#3
datchew Don't buy from Brad Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Savannah - the dirty south Oddometer: 7,403	I'd offer an opinion if I though I knew anything about batteries that could help. Please let us know how it works out. Hopefully some battery guru will chime in. __________________ On tap:Nada Aging: 3 experiments in mead - blackberry, apple, and straight honey

11-28-2006, 06:17 AM	#5
walkingbear ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Scottsdale AZ.. Oddometer: 2,853	why diesel I was talking to a master mechanic at the auto stores about the difference in diesel vs regular batteries. His opinion was that .. the diesel provide more CCA and would last longer. Since my GS battery is two old and having a harder time cranking the 9.5 pistons.. why not try it? __________________ BMWMOA 82741 75 R90S ,83 R100RT (Baron) , 88 R100GS ,94 R1100RS (Aragorn) 2k 1150GS w/hack,05 K1200S (Gandalf)

11-28-2006, 06:31 AM	#7
hogmolly Dude Joined: May 2003 Location: McKinney, TX and San Jose, CA Oddometer: 3,145	What I would like to see is a small 1" long extension for the rubber battery cables (my dreams are meager). __________________ 10 FLHCUSE-BLK, 09 FXDL, 08 FXDWG, 98 FLHR, 07 R1200GS Adv, 95 R100GSPD Classic, 93 R100GSPD, 92 CB750

12-05-2006, 06:01 AM	#8
wintonio last of the Dum Dum Daze Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Denver, CO Oddometer: 1,650	what's the difference? (series of stupid questions) I looked on digikey, and the panasonic battery there was described as a leak free or leak proof sealed laed acid battery. Is this the same as a gel battery, or is it just a leak proof battery? Also, JT mentions a westco/panasonic battery, and all that are listed are BB's and Panasonics. Is it a W/P just because you know it is? the reason I ask is because I am having battery problems, I think. When my bike is cold, and the temp is cold, and I have been riding around town during the day, it is nearly impossible to start, and I fear getting stranded. Also, I do not know what is "normal" because i just got my bike, and am still learning about it's habits.

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11-28-2006, 05:59 AM	#4
jtwind Wisconsin Airhead Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Madison WI Oddometer: 3,450	I've been using the Westco/Panasonic batteries for 5 years now. I've had no problems with them. I've been told that they can fail without warning you like wet batteries sometimes do. I've yet to have that happen but I do replace them every 3 years. Digikey has very good prices on them. JT

11-28-2006, 06:28 AM	#6
jtwind Wisconsin Airhead Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Madison WI Oddometer: 3,450	If it fits there isn't a good reason not to try it. If you have to hack up the battery box that's a good enough reason for me not to do it. But hacking up your's is up to you. No one I know pays the $99.95 for the Westco/Panasonic they are $62 from Digikey. JT

12-05-2006, 07:09 AM	#10
jtwind Wisconsin Airhead Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Madison WI Oddometer: 3,450	The westco/panasonic is a sealed mat battery and not a gel battery. I'm sorry if my westco/panasonic label confused people. They are labeled either westco or panasonic but are the same battery. I'm not sure who makes it westco or panasonic. On the digikey site you find it by the amp rating, the battery for the /5's and the g/s is a 20 amp battery the larger battery for gs's and rt's etc. is 28 amp. JT

12-05-2006, 07:31 AM	#11
wintonio last of the Dum Dum Daze Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Denver, CO Oddometer: 1,650	thank you