The XLV750R Thread - Page 3

sharkey · 10-03-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atgreg

You'd have to extend the swingarm / driveshaft like they do on Beemers + use a longer shock

The shock's on a linkage, so you'd just have to turn the spring/damping rates up. Yeah, I've looked at my pile-o-parts and wondered about it :-)

You could cut-and-shut the swingarm and there's enough room inside the swingarm to cut the ends off the shaft and weld in a section of slightly larger tube. Far too much like hard work for me!

-----sharks

tHEtREV · 10-04-2007, 03:05 AM

yeah screw that, I'm thinking about angling the sub frame/seat up a bit more so it looks like it's got more travel

.

sharkey · 10-04-2007, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tHEtREV

yeah screw that, I'm thinking about angling the sub
frame/seat up a bit more so it looks like it's got more travel

.

Hey, like one of those bizarre streetfighter chop things the brits have gotten into. Good work! And clip-ons! No, ape hangers! No, wait, clip-on apehangers!

(This thread has lost all its dignity _already_ ...)
-----sharks

tHEtREV · 10-04-2007, 04:15 AM

Tassels! I need tassels!!
No your right.Quick every one post more XLV pics so this thread doesn't loose to much credibility.

tHEtREV · 10-04-2007, 04:20 AM

I'm sure you've all seen this pic before (I think I got it from here originally) but would you believe its the only pic of an XLV I have on this computer.
But its a good example of what I'm hoping my bike doesn't turn out like.
Oh and by the way, I just did a search on "XLW" and it gave me a whole heap of E-bay sites in foreign languages hoking XLV stuff, So maybe its A translation thing?

sharkey · 10-04-2007, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tHEtREV

I'm sure you've all seen this pic before (I think I got it from here originally) but would you believe its the only pic of an XLV I have on this computer.

That one is a genuine W-for-weird, love the rear disc conversion and the braced swingarm. Would love to know more about it. Looks stock other than that and some alarming bodywork.

XLW seems to be a common typo for Italians selling XLV bits on eBay.

-----sharks

tHEtREV · 10-07-2007, 05:32 AM

OK serious question time, I didn't have my XLV long before I striped it down (probably only did about 20 Ks of light fire road on it).
It still has the original (I assume its the original) air shock in it.
Are they any good or should I junk it for something else?
If I do get rid of it how do you guys think it will work in another bike?

It wasn't until I pulled it down that I realized they had an air shock in them so I didn't really take any notice when I took it for a ride, so I assume it was working OK.

As always, any advice is greatly appreciated.

sharkey · 10-07-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tHEtREV

OK serious question time, I didn't have my XLV long before I striped it down (probably only did about 20 Ks of light fire road on it).
It still has the original (I assume its the original) air shock in it.
Are they any good or should I junk it for something else?

Assuming you mean the stock Honda one not a Fournales one: While they work, they're not actually all that bad, once you grease all the linkages and stuff which are generally the worst bit of the rear suspension. They do eventually die, however ... some internal rubber bit perishes and clogs up all the internal holes. It's only a matter of time. Also, eventually the oil leaks out the air hose.

Quote:

If I do get rid of it how do you guys think it will work in another bike?

Probably not, it's a bit of an oddball and not that great anyway. RAD shockies in QLD can rebuild them, and they say they rebuild them in such a way that they won't die again (not the same way, anyway). The alternative is a Bitubo shockie, fabulous but expensive.

Chadleys1 · 10-07-2007, 08:19 PM

Damn!!
Another really interesting bike that I've never had a chance to ride or purchase in the U.S.A.

-frustrating

beemer boy · 10-08-2007, 12:57 AM

How about this one for sale in Thailand. Asking price is 250,000 baht.

TREADMARKS · 10-08-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemer boy

How about this one for sale in Thailand. Asking price is 250,000 baht.

Daayyyuuum. Pretty bike.

sharkey · 10-09-2007, 03:16 AM

IT LIVES! Started my XLV this afternoon, the engine's been sitting on the workbench for 2 years, but after a bit of a crank it started up on one (oh no!) and then both (oh yes!) cylinders!

Beemer Boy: Nice, but 250,000 THB =~ 8,900 AUS =~ 8,000 USD which is well and truly over the odds for any eighties bike IMHO.

-----sharks

Two Plugs · 10-09-2007, 04:09 AM

If you can get your hands on one... do it... It has become more or less a 'classic' these days and there is a grand XLV750R International Meeting coming up for 2008 in Switzerland (August).

I've got 2, and currently working to get the HRC version (the one with the red engine) restored. I made the story for the Varadero forum, but I think it would be nice to share it with this forum as well:

Last year we started the restoration of our 2nd. XLV 750R HRC. We = me and my Brother-in-law, which is a Laverda enthusiast (he owns 2, a newish model and a classic 2-cillinder).

The XLV 750R HRC Paris-Dakar

The HRC XLV is stored in the farmhouse of Karinda’s Brother Anton, and since he got all the tools (advisable if you are an enthusiast of old Italian motorcycles…!) we kicked of.

First surprise:

Although the bike looks a bit ‘rusty’- the spikes in the wheels, the rear suspension, and the exhaust system – it isn’t that bad at al. The bolts where all sealed with ‘cupper grease’ and easy to dismount; and although the bike has not been used since December last year, the battery was still fully loaded, the air filter brand-new. The oil is rather black, so we have to get the engine running and replace it before riding the bike. I’ve took of the Givi wingrack (it will not be re-installed, for luggage capacity we have both our Dero’s!), any one interested?

The feultank after renovation

Took the fuel tank off, and again a surprise. The framework looks good; the tank hasn’t got any rust. I just collected it today after the paintwork has been sealed by a special company. The ‘sealing’ is a hard
waxed transparent layer which has been ‘coated’ on the original paintwork. It is the best possible rust protection money can buy, rather expensive
(50 Euro’s for the job) but cheaper as a repaint in original colours. And isn’t it the state of originality which gives a (semi-) classic bike additional value?
Got a picture of the result below, including a pic of the bike as we found it last year (November 2003) and the Limited (with on the background my wife her ex- transalp)

The engine and exhaust system are a different story. The engine is painted in Honda- HRC red, but I have discovered that it had a bad repaint recently with some cheap paint from a local home improvement store. Due to the heat of both the cylinders (the XLV is air cooled like an old Volkswagen Beetle or a Citroën 2CV) the paintwork is completely burned. This was also one of the problems of the original paint used in 1984, but
today we can buy better systems which can stand more heat. Have to get the colour right, but a repaint of the engine is last important.
The exhaust system is rare and not available anymore. Although they are covered in rust for almost 75%, I will try to get them cleaned. The mufflers are the different part due to the shape they have been designed,
but the front part of the system should be re-build easily. A company near to our town is advertising that they can design and build any exhaust system for any car and motorcycle in stainless steel, so if the quality is
too bad to restore, I will have to ask them for a fair price for a re-build.

The XLV 750R Limited

The spokes in both the wheels are covered in rust and have to be replaced by stainless steel spokes. The job, done at the XLV 750R Limited I already own, is near to perfect, so we will take the wheels out. Gives us a change to have a proper look to the brakes as well; the XLV has a drive shaft like a Honda NTV Revere with drum brakes rear and a single piston disk brake front.

Two Plugs · 10-09-2007, 04:11 AM

The rims are now fitted with new spokes - stainless steel - and the result is perfection:

The exhaust system, for which I feared that they would be completely absorbed by rust have been cleaned and surprise, surprise... underneath the layer of rust, the exhausts are almost 100% conserved! The original system is not available anymore... And if you would stumble up to one, they are EXPENSIVE!

We moved on further and stripped the frame and the rear fork with the shaft drive. They will be cleaned up as well, before they will get a new layer of Powder coating. It will be better as a traditional re-paint and looking at the pictures below, you will notice that the rear fork has suffered:

The engine and the exhaust will be repainted by - don't laugh at me... - a Harley expert, because the Harley V-2 is also air-cooled, just as the 750cc twin of the XLV. This specialist has developed a procedure on which he can re-paint the parts in any original colour and heat resistance!
The question I need to ask the lot of you: I do need desperately two original PRO-LINK stickers for on the rear fork... They are not available any more... Can anyone of you help me out?

Two Plugs · 10-09-2007, 04:12 AM

We moved on with our restoration project! Last Thursday I received the engine, front forks and exhaust back from the paintshop (http://www.motopaints.nl). They did a superb job!
I already received the frame and rear fork back from the coating company, and if you compare the pics of it below with those I have posted earlier on this topic, it is a huge difference!
The engine was taken apart for the job and his 'internal' parts are in a 200% condition. Only the clutch has to be renewed and the dynamo has to be rewinded.

I am very happy regarding the quality of the exhaustsystem. The original is not available anymore... And very expensive. It was one of the 'bad quality' parts of the bike. It is even hard to find a original XLV 750R, and even harder to find one with a good, original exhaust system!
Here are the pics... We will move on with our little project after the summer recess... Btw... I managed to buy a 3rd XLV750R HRC for only € 900... For the parts!

The Frame after it has been powdercoated

The exhaust system, welded and fitted with a new, heatresistand paint

The engine, cylinderheads and front fork back in Honda HRC 'racing' red!

10-04-2007, 03:05 AM	#32
tHEtREV tEAM iDIOT Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,517	yeah screw that, I'm thinking about angling the sub frame/seat up a bit more so it looks like it's got more travel . __________________ tEAM iDIOT... tHE oRIGINAL. Hard Core Dirt Touring.

10-04-2007, 04:15 AM	#34
tHEtREV tEAM iDIOT Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,517	Tassels! I need tassels!! No your right.Quick every one post more XLV pics so this thread doesn't loose to much credibility. __________________ tEAM iDIOT... tHE oRIGINAL. Hard Core Dirt Touring.

10-04-2007, 04:20 AM	#35
tHEtREV tEAM iDIOT Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,517	Here...I'll start. I'm sure you've all seen this pic before (I think I got it from here originally) but would you believe its the only pic of an XLV I have on this computer. But its a good example of what I'm hoping my bike doesn't turn out like. Oh and by the way, I just did a search on "XLW" and it gave me a whole heap of E-bay sites in foreign languages hoking XLV stuff, So maybe its A translation thing? Attached Images __________________ tEAM iDIOT... tHE oRIGINAL. Hard Core Dirt Touring. tHEtREV screwed with this post 10-04-2007 at 04:33 AM

10-07-2007, 05:32 AM	#37
tHEtREV tEAM iDIOT Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,517	Time to get serious. OK serious question time, I didn't have my XLV long before I striped it down (probably only did about 20 Ks of light fire road on it). It still has the original (I assume its the original) air shock in it. Are they any good or should I junk it for something else? If I do get rid of it how do you guys think it will work in another bike? It wasn't until I pulled it down that I realized they had an air shock in them so I didn't really take any notice when I took it for a ride, so I assume it was working OK. As always, any advice is greatly appreciated. __________________ tEAM iDIOT... tHE oRIGINAL. Hard Core Dirt Touring.

10-07-2007, 08:19 PM	#39
Chadleys1 working on it Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Hillcountry Oddometer: 559	pissed off Damn!! Another really interesting bike that I've never had a chance to ride or purchase in the U.S.A. -frustrating __________________ "It's not a death machine, Mom, it's a LIFE machine" - a motorcyclist

10-08-2007, 12:57 AM	#40
beemer boy Oh no, he's gone Asian Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand Oddometer: 859	How about this one for sale in Thailand. Asking price is 250,000 baht. __________________ If you can't pick it up by yourself, it is not an adventure bike.

10-09-2007, 03:16 AM	#42
sharkey ^OP XLV750R Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Oddometer: 862	It Lives! IT LIVES! Started my XLV this afternoon, the engine's been sitting on the workbench for 2 years, but after a bit of a crank it started up on one (oh no!) and then both (oh yes!) cylinders! Beemer Boy: Nice, but 250,000 THB =~ 8,900 AUS =~ 8,000 USD which is well and truly over the odds for any eighties bike IMHO. -----sharks

10-09-2007, 04:09 AM	#43
Two Plugs Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Groningen Province - Top of Holland Oddometer: 980	If you can get your hands on one... do it... It has become more or less a 'classic' these days and there is a grand XLV750R International Meeting coming up for 2008 in Switzerland (August). I've got 2, and currently working to get the HRC version (the one with the red engine) restored. I made the story for the Varadero forum, but I think it would be nice to share it with this forum as well: Last year we started the restoration of our 2nd. XLV 750R HRC. We = me and my Brother-in-law, which is a Laverda enthusiast (he owns 2, a newish model and a classic 2-cillinder). The XLV 750R HRC Paris-Dakar The HRC XLV is stored in the farmhouse of Karinda’s Brother Anton, and since he got all the tools (advisable if you are an enthusiast of old Italian motorcycles…!) we kicked of. First surprise: Although the bike looks a bit ‘rusty’- the spikes in the wheels, the rear suspension, and the exhaust system – it isn’t that bad at al. The bolts where all sealed with ‘cupper grease’ and easy to dismount; and although the bike has not been used since December last year, the battery was still fully loaded, the air filter brand-new. The oil is rather black, so we have to get the engine running and replace it before riding the bike. I’ve took of the Givi wingrack (it will not be re-installed, for luggage capacity we have both our Dero’s!), any one interested? The feultank after renovation Took the fuel tank off, and again a surprise. The framework looks good; the tank hasn’t got any rust. I just collected it today after the paintwork has been sealed by a special company. The ‘sealing’ is a hard waxed transparent layer which has been ‘coated’ on the original paintwork. It is the best possible rust protection money can buy, rather expensive (50 Euro’s for the job) but cheaper as a repaint in original colours. And isn’t it the state of originality which gives a (semi-) classic bike additional value? Got a picture of the result below, including a pic of the bike as we found it last year (November 2003) and the Limited (with on the background my wife her ex- transalp) The engine and exhaust system are a different story. The engine is painted in Honda- HRC red, but I have discovered that it had a bad repaint recently with some cheap paint from a local home improvement store. Due to the heat of both the cylinders (the XLV is air cooled like an old Volkswagen Beetle or a Citroën 2CV) the paintwork is completely burned. This was also one of the problems of the original paint used in 1984, but today we can buy better systems which can stand more heat. Have to get the colour right, but a repaint of the engine is last important. The exhaust system is rare and not available anymore. Although they are covered in rust for almost 75%, I will try to get them cleaned. The mufflers are the different part due to the shape they have been designed, but the front part of the system should be re-build easily. A company near to our town is advertising that they can design and build any exhaust system for any car and motorcycle in stainless steel, so if the quality is too bad to restore, I will have to ask them for a fair price for a re-build. The XLV 750R Limited The spokes in both the wheels are covered in rust and have to be replaced by stainless steel spokes. The job, done at the XLV 750R Limited I already own, is near to perfect, so we will take the wheels out. Gives us a change to have a proper look to the brakes as well; the XLV has a drive shaft like a Honda NTV Revere with drum brakes rear and a single piston disk brake front. __________________ Bernard 'Two Plugs', NL the First International Crosstourer Forum - www.crosstourer-international.com the First International Varadero Forum - www.varadero-international.com May 2013 Wales/UK: 15th Varadero & 2nd Crosstourer International Meeting!

10-09-2007, 04:11 AM	#44
Two Plugs Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Groningen Province - Top of Holland Oddometer: 980	The rims are now fitted with new spokes - stainless steel - and the result is perfection: The exhaust system, for which I feared that they would be completely absorbed by rust have been cleaned and surprise, surprise... underneath the layer of rust, the exhausts are almost 100% conserved! The original system is not available anymore... And if you would stumble up to one, they are EXPENSIVE! We moved on further and stripped the frame and the rear fork with the shaft drive. They will be cleaned up as well, before they will get a new layer of Powder coating. It will be better as a traditional re-paint and looking at the pictures below, you will notice that the rear fork has suffered: The engine and the exhaust will be repainted by - don't laugh at me... - a Harley expert, because the Harley V-2 is also air-cooled, just as the 750cc twin of the XLV. This specialist has developed a procedure on which he can re-paint the parts in any original colour and heat resistance! The question I need to ask the lot of you: I do need desperately two original PRO-LINK stickers for on the rear fork... They are not available any more... Can anyone of you help me out? __________________ Bernard 'Two Plugs', NL the First International Crosstourer Forum - www.crosstourer-international.com the First International Varadero Forum - www.varadero-international.com May 2013 Wales/UK: 15th Varadero & 2nd Crosstourer International Meeting!

10-09-2007, 04:12 AM	#45
Two Plugs Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Groningen Province - Top of Holland Oddometer: 980	We moved on with our restoration project! Last Thursday I received the engine, front forks and exhaust back from the paintshop (http://www.motopaints.nl). They did a superb job! I already received the frame and rear fork back from the coating company, and if you compare the pics of it below with those I have posted earlier on this topic, it is a huge difference! The engine was taken apart for the job and his 'internal' parts are in a 200% condition. Only the clutch has to be renewed and the dynamo has to be rewinded. I am very happy regarding the quality of the exhaustsystem. The original is not available anymore... And very expensive. It was one of the 'bad quality' parts of the bike. It is even hard to find a original XLV 750R, and even harder to find one with a good, original exhaust system! Here are the pics... We will move on with our little project after the summer recess... Btw... I managed to buy a 3rd XLV750R HRC for only € 900... For the parts! The Frame after it has been powdercoated The exhaust system, welded and fitted with a new, heatresistand paint The engine, cylinderheads and front fork back in Honda HRC 'racing' red! __________________ Bernard 'Two Plugs', NL the First International Crosstourer Forum - www.crosstourer-international.com the First International Varadero Forum - www.varadero-international.com May 2013 Wales/UK: 15th Varadero & 2nd Crosstourer International Meeting!

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