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05-16-2013, 04:22 PM
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The team which appears to be whining the most is acting the role of a spoiled, petulant child that isn't having it so easy. Remember the "flexi-wing" incident? Karma can be a bitch!
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05-16-2013, 07:00 PM
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The high rate of tire degradation is putting a heavier layer of marbles off the line. It makes it harder to pass. This won't be much of a problem at Monaco, though. After the last pit stop, the leader can still hold his lead even with 4 delaminated tires.
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05-16-2013, 07:47 PM
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It's not possible to build the tire you would like to see. And therein lies my point. All tires are a compromise. Nobody has even been or will ever be completely satisfied. So all we're left to discuss is the degree of degradation. Myself, I very much like what they're doing right now. I know, I'm a Philistine. So be it. At least I'm a contented Philistine.
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05-16-2013, 07:48 PM
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And it's working. Also, it's working while overall times are not suffering. So it's hard to see what the problem is.
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05-16-2013, 07:53 PM
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Not bad, if my numbers are right.
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05-16-2013, 07:54 PM
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05-16-2013, 09:50 PM
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Can't be bothered.
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Newey realised a while ago that even with DRS and KERS, the way to win was to design a car that wasn't top speed fast. His designs are optimised around corner speed even to the extent that they select lower gear ratios to improve acceleration out of the corners. That's why the Red Bull's rarely register in the top speed tables and why they struggle in the DRS zones bouncing off the rev limiter. Their predilection for high corner speeds (whether aided by a blown diffuser or not) stresses the rubber more. It has been a Red Bull strategy to sacrifice top speed for corner speed and thereby set faster lap times in qualifying so that they can control the race from the front. The tyre specification affects this strategy. I'm not so naive as to believe that it's not intentional - no-one (outside Red Bull) wants to see another Ferrari/Schumacher/Todt/Brawn style domination. Arguably, that period did more harm than having iffy tyres is doing now.
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05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Max Chilton Hamilton Massa x 2 Di Resta This is a huge increase compared to normal. Only a rate of 0 delaminations is acceptable. Pirelli claims all instances of delamination were caused by debris. Debris is a given in F1. So, what to do about it? I understand the argument against changing tire specs up to the point where it becomes a safety issue. Then something must be done. Pirelli will be making some changes, so hopefully there won't be any more delaminations.
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05-17-2013, 06:20 AM
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brilliant article
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05-17-2013, 12:11 PM
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I really see no difference at all this year from any other year with regard to equipment and rules. The "F" in F1 stands for Formula and by design, the formula changes periodically. While the tire specifically isn't set in the Formula it obviously plays a role. Its just another kink to work around. F1 isn't NASCAR. The fastest car doesn't always win. If it did, Force India would have a dozen wins to its credit already. The game planning IS a part of the race and the tires are a new unpredictable part of it. While this year hasn't been my favorite, I have still very much enjoyed the show and other than MotoGP, F1 continues to be the only racing I look forward to every race.
Make no mistake, Red Bull will figure it out eventually. Until then, Ferrari is going to burn the hides as quickly as they can, try to gap the field, and repeat often. While that won't work at Monte Carlo, I bet it will be pretty successful at a majority of the Euro tracks. I'm not a Ferrari fan, but I love the 'catch me if you can' mentality. |
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