When you prevent the evaporation with your new pool cover, you will also increase the water temperature. Probably not desirable in AZ. Has the builder suggested a solar system to be used for nocturnal cooling? Something to think about. Nice garage you're building there! .
Will it be for private use or bussiness use also? If it is for just personal use, wouldn't be better to have it built with half the height of the first level underground to keep it naturally cooled? Will you use wind generators and solar panels to generate energy? The cave seems wonderfull already, but since you went that deep into your pockets, in your place I would go for an all self sufficient building in both energy and water aspects. PS: Oh I forgot the basics... where will the beer cooling mechanism be installed?
we are looking at different options for cooling and most effective cool method during the night is running the pool filtering at low speeds. It's been hot here and the water temp is 82. Later on this summer it will be in the high 80's we have a small pool not (11,000 gals) the next pool will be 18000 gal or just a bit bigger. Solar tubes really doesn't help with a larger pool. Water features are the most effective way of cooling water during the day use. We have a propane heater for the winter and the real savings in retaining heat is a pool cover. Secondary reason for the pool cover : We have small childern and this will serve as a second layer of protection behind the pool fencing.
We are at the lowest point on the lot. We regraded the wash lines. The garage is for my retirement pleasure use. The casitas upstairs will become the guest room /office. We looked into the wind generators and solar panels in the beginning. My designer is a green advocate. The souther roof line is being built with solar to be added on at a later date. The materials we used were chosen for their R factors and we placed the garage to take advantage of the shade trees on the west side. The north side we placed the garage door, the east side have low E windows and will have reflective film on them. The only hot side would be the South. We went from three windows to two and this is the only room we will have with air conditioning. We are placing two ceiling fans in this 16 x 35 space and we should be cool enough. The garage will have insulation under the roof and the walls are rated R45. The beer cooler (drink cooler ) is in the garage. I kept the cooler from the days of owning a health club. I can hold 120 beers or drinks. Watering will be using backwash from the new pool into a holding tank and will water the landscape and new veggie garden. We are planting low use desert plants and after a few years they will take very little water. I planned this build for 10 months. We looked at different materials Adobe would have been the next choice but that had some drawbacks since we are in the wash area. 100 year storm could flood the lower level . Water and adobe doesn't not play well together.
That thing looks great! Would love to ride out for your airhead tech day to see it..... And go to Waffle House!
I agree the most effective cooling method is water features / aeration / and circulating the pool. All those methods normally require the cover to be left open, at least partially. Changing the water's phase from a liquid to a gas requires heat, hence the best cooling. I may be wrong, but the only method of cooling, and keeping the cover completely closed is using solar panels to radiate heat to the sky at night Least amount of evaporation too. Maybe building a waterfall that drops down into a trough of stones.. The waterfall would aerate and cool the water the stones in the trough would allow water collection without the fear of little ones falling in. Creating a large surface area with a seperate pump to run at night on a temperature needed basis.. Easy to do.
Line of sight only. The stone is going to kill the signal. Better to trench some CAT-6 for a gigabit link back to the house. ~$100 worth of wire.
When when pulled the electrical wires for the panel we had a low voltage line pulled also. We are planning to cat-6 the garage. The main house doesn't have an ethernet junction near by. We would need a new router from COX to do what we need.
We are in the design phase. We have addressed the cool aspects, the junk from the trees and evaporation. There is an catch system that could run around the pool that will cool the water down before going into the pumps. Lots of good ideas . ..thanks
I doubt that. Ethernet is good ~300ft. If you can do so, take the line from the cave and pull all the way through the house to the Airport Extreme. Maybe move the cable modem drop to a more convenient location?
Talked to apple yesterday about hooking up in series. They believed that I could connect a set up another wireless r extreme (at the junction box )and connect the ethernet wire to it .. and add an express to the opposite wall of the garage I would be ok. He also suggested that I should upgrade my speed since this will slow everything down.
Today, we had to wait for material. There has been a run on roof trusses and the delivery times has been pushed from 10 days to 3 weeks. Tom (GC) and I went over plans. They forgot to build a window in the upstairs bathroom ( will cut a 2 x4 window for light and air. Working on types of doors, full panel glass or solid core. Re-config the stairs to up the second level. Increase the size of the landings and decreased the rise of the step to 7 inch instead of 8. We are wondering if I should build out a small office downstairs. (12x12) since I will be spending most of the time there ..during the day and leaving the upstairs mostly as guest room /music room / football room. My wife think the small room would be great and I could AC the upstairs that little office. Picked the roofing tile today> It will match our current tile.,( eagle cement product that will have built in slots for Solar when we decide to install.) Flooring for the upstairs over the joist are TG 2inch thick pines (6 inch wide) glued and screwed to the joist. We are going to sand and seal (natural wood) Going to be a bohemian look. Thrift store shopping today. Missed out on 3 reclining movie chairs...
Good fortunes. HD had 15% OFF on special order doors. 36 x96 are considered special order. 2 @397 each the regular 36 x 80 was $347. Shower doors.. they had on sale also. All you guys who want to start a project. If you get a big order and go to the order /builder desk they will match or give you 10% off most retail items.
i may have missed it but what size and centres are the floor joists,and what is the loading you guys design too?In NZ our normal residential loading os 1.5kpa(31.33 lbs per sq ft).If it is an normal off ice we would design to 2.5kPa (52.21 lbs /sq ft),this also allows for a concentrated load which i wont comment on.Is the timber Oregon?(we call it douglas fir here).Its quite amazing to me you guys are talking about COOLING a swimmming pool:eek1
I have forwarded you question to the architect for the loads. Yes this is a glue lam which consist of glue,pressure and wood being pressed together. The code that we are following not is 2009 BOCA Code http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Building_Code. The floor joists we are using are 4 inches (10.16 cm) 32 inch OC. We are using 2 x 6 x2 tongue and goove flooring above. Glued and screwed. Our summers can be wicked. Last year we have over 120 days over 100 degress. Sometimes we even reach 120 degress. Water gets a little warm over 90.. so to cool it down .. we find ways of cooling it down a little. The warmer the water the more chemicals you have to use to keep the pool safe. We over designed the load since it will be used as a garage and living quarters. I will get an ans. for you soon.
no worries just generally interested .32 in ch centres!I am much more used to 400mm(16)450mm (18) and 600(24)mm crs with ex 1 inch flooring(ussualy particle board or plywood).Dont go to any trouble for the loadings I am sure one of the other thread viewers will be able to give me an answer!
from my architect 4x12 floor joist 32 inch on center Loading is 40 lbs per sq ft Lumber is Douglas Fir #2
I like your flooring choice, that will be pretty impressive. Exposed screws or some kind of hidden system?