2014 1190 Adventure Airbox

I feel very sorry for those guys. It is a shame, for sure. Very grateful I found this forum.

It is the 'airbox' topic :) also, as you can see I'm new here. I just reserved my bike and am waiting for it. So all I do is read up on the forums to get a better idea of the bike. I'm certainly not aware of all the history.

I'm just glad there are lots of people here posting very helpful tips and ways to fix the issues. Overall, it looks to me as if most people are very excited about the bike which ultimately is what really matters!

At the risk of flogging a dead horse, I think its abundantly clear that the problem is largely the OEM FILTER ITSELF and not so much the box, though the box did need improving from the 2013 design that appears to warp a bit when hot.

Get a filter that seals to the box and filters dust properly, like the Uni, and you're good to go.

I've been running just the unifilter (with pre-filter insert) and no lid seal or socks, and the 2014 box has been spotless after much riding in the 'unique dust' KTM says Australia has.

Thats funny because almost every case of this is not the filter, it's the airbox seal above the filter between the case halves... Consider yourself lucky but you are not the norm.

Precisely. It's almost never the filter element itself.

uhuh. In that case the uni, with or without the lid seal, wouldn't fix the problem. But by some weird magic, it does!

Go figure.

Uni foam gasket, with or without Uni filter, will fix the problem for 2015 design (with two wedge retention brackets).

Uni foam gasket with Uni filter will fix the problem for 2014 design.

As reported, Uni foam gasket with Uni filter will fix the problem even for 2013 design...

Actually the uni foam gasket is there to help seal the lid when you strip the threads of the ridiculous wood screw (or as KTM call them 'special screw') fastenings.

Pretty sure the bloke from Uni said as much a million pages back.

I'll bet my left nut that its the element not sealing on the periphery and/or letting fine dust through.

I've not heard that the lid gasket actually fixes dust intrusion without changing the element, though I'd wager due to manufacturing inconsistencies the OEM element may seal OK on some bikes.

You're gonna loose your left nut...


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I haven't seen that. Something new.

It depends on the model year.

Owch. Still have one left I guess.

Lol, fair enough! :)

Hmmm... Word is out. I just read this in the new Cycle World this morning.
I'm glad I'm running the PowerCell intake :)
I wonder how KTM will respond to this issue being discussed in a major publication like Cycle World and not just online forums.
Having said that, the article goes on to say KTM warrantied the repair, replacing the top end, and that the 1190 still had less repairs than the GSA, and was less expensive to maintain. So I guess all bikes have their issues.

Oh, the top end was replaced. No damage to the lower end?
All is well, move along.
I'm glad that's not my bike.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/03/1...-term-test-wrap-up-review-and-specifications/

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/03/1...erm-test-wrap-up-review-and-specifications/2/


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Just my thoughts.....

I´m glad I got a new engine....

Talked with my dealer again as last time they said they'd be putting out a service update on the airbox. Now they're dealing with it on a case-by-case basis and are filming the airbox when opening it, if their is an aftermarket setup like Rottweiler (and I assume Powercell) they say KTM will not support any top-end warranty work. Current solution for them is to install the bottom part of the 2015 airbox and a DNA filter if needed, and top-end work if leakdown is more than 5%.

Can't say I'm pleased but won't risk my warranty

If I have to take it in for any reason, I will put their crappy air filter back in.
I'm not going to risk my engine!!!
That's one reason I went with a Powercell. Air box is intact.

You gotta be nuts to run anything else IMO. It's a clean/easy install.
And I really don't want some half baked mechanic touching my bike to do a rebuild.
Just like I don't really care for them replacing my starter either. I'm sure it would come back with even more problems.
I'll just do it myself.


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That isn't a bad idea as I do like the Powercell product, although I may just get the fuel taps first so I can check the airbox easier and hope the Canadian buck goes up a bit more.

The time before last when I was there they had a set of cylinders and heads from an 1190 boxed on the front counter that were being sent to KTM for a rebuild, they don't handle that in-house.

Finished my powercell conversion this morning, pretty easy to do. Went out riding this afternoon in the cold(24 F). No more worries. Removed my canister at the same time. This is purely seat of the pants, but I do think the midrange improved some.