950 Supermoto Chronicles

I love it!

Did you get rid of the SM or just add the Multi? I'm guessing, given you're expressing some regret it's the former. I've eyed the Multi a few times, have yet to ride one enough to be tempted. I'm also interested in giving the new Hyper's a try once they show up. I seriously doubt I'd give up my SMR. May add something in months to come.

I just lost a friend a few weeks ago, he has/had a pristine Aprilia RSV Haga replica which may well come on the market. I haven't been tempted back onto a sport bike in some time but that Haga rep is a pretty sick bit of kit. It might be nice to buy and hang onto, even if I don't end up using it much.

Enjoy the Multi regardless, great bike.

NM

Yes, yes, details... No chance of keeping secrets here is there!

I am working with Woody's Wheel Works to develop a bolt-on spoke conversion kit for 950SM's. Zach just needs a bike to pull dimensions from and for final fitment. There's the details.

Whoa! I have been thinking that it would be sweet to have a spoked 2nd wheel set for the instant conversion between road and off-road. Are you thinking same rim sizes and maintaining the double disk front?

natty- sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Besides his bike being a nice one, it would be cool if a friend were to be the one who rode it now.

+1 to the sentiments.

Sheeewt, I'll read downline a bit before posting next time! Khvol, I don't see the sin in getting, what is, on its face, the 1200cc "bigbrother" to a 950SM. I got to meet one last week and they is purdy machines! Glad to see the KTM stayed in the "family", so it can go out on rides w/ya still.

The idea for Woody's: have a 950SM ready hub set, with spacers, for adaptable brake rotors and sprockets, and just lace a customer spec'd size rim, for the order. Zach has a lacing method that adds clearance between the spokes and rotors, for the front end. Looks tough as nails, too!

Unfortunately I sold it, fortunately it was to a good friend. After selling it , I am convinced the 950 SM is the best all around bike you can have. Especially for the money.

The Multi is actually very similar to the 950 SM, about same weight, wheel base , seat height, seating configuration, 1/2 degree difference in steering angle. Does have a lot more HP, which really isn't needed, wider seat and some more wind protection. The engine is definitely nice, electronics are pretty elaborate, good lighting, suspension is much softer than I like but that can be fixed. I guess I traded because I hope to be doing more and longer road trips, which may or may not happen. Never had the first problem with my 950 SM in 6 years of ownership, may regret letting the 950 go.

Sorry about the loss of your friend, Natty.

..like this


<a href="http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/RW4x4van/library/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.advrider.com/advrider-photobucket-images/images/R/RW4x4van_950SMin19_17spoked.jpg" border="0" alt="KTM 950SM with 17_19 spoke wheels"/></a>

great to see the awesome community here keeps going in support of the SM.

I too am in a position that I am considering selling my prized SMR. 07, lots of goodies and perfect. Never down. About 10K miles and like new.

I dont want to violate the forum rules but am interested in some feedback about the SMR market and value. Are they selling and at about what price? Is it acceptable to list the content of my bike and ask for feedback on value? Does this forum or EBAY tend to be more successful with the niche SMR?

I am sad to have to consider selling the my SMR. It has easily been the best of the many many bikes I have owned. Some day maybe another I will have.

Thanks all. Mark

Now you can't tease us with that and not give us details! That's just evil! What are your rim and tire sizes and are those stock diameter front disks? Does the rear sprocket use the stock damper drive or is it solidly bolted? Any problems if it is solidly bolted? What hubs and who built 'em?

Iammemares - what have you been up to?

Just not so much lately. Unfortunately life has taken over a bit and my rides are few and far between. Got a son getting ready to head off to college. Been visiting lots of colleges.

Good to see this community and the mainstays ares till in place. This has been such a super place to discuss the SM(R).

My SMR is still working so well. I so enjoy riding it when I get the chance.

The ones I've seen change hands in the past year have been in the $6300-$7300 range depending on condition.

KHVol care to say what you were able to get for yours?

If I ever sell mine I'd have to put it back to stock. I have $7k in mods on mine... sure has been fun.

NM

It's not mine, a couple of years ago I found this photo while doing some research, unfortunately I don't have any specs


snowhawk jockey....where are photos of the "KTM 950SM dirt drifter "

It was in that range, much less than I would like to have asked for it had I not sold it to a friend and much, much less than I felt it was worth ( nothing new there).

If you sell to a friend, it is no longer a transaction "at arm's length." The last thing you want is for a friend to buy something from you and later wish he hadn't. If you sell to a stranger, you want to do the right thing but if a stranger changes his mind later it is " Them's the hazards".

What was the good deal for the buyer and also the bad deal for me is the extra's that you put on it over the years. You know when you buy them that you will never get your money back out of it when you sell it. You become very aware of how much that is when you go to sell it. Then you become doubly aware if you think you may want to buy that same bike later and will have to spend that same money for accessories all over again. For example, Akro's..big expense, does so much for the bike that I can't imagine having a 950/990 SM without it, there goes $2,000 right off the bat, then you add a seat, heated grips, skid plate, windscreen, hyper ligts, rear bags, brackets, tail bag, tank bag, control pieces, kickkstand foot, carbon this, carbon that, ad nauseum. Over the course of years, it really mounts up.

Yiou are going to have a big problem with this, Nattymo, if you ever decide to sell your 950.. I have never seen a more personalized bike than your 950 SM.

That belonged to inmate Brents347- who sold it several years ago. Might be a detailed write-up on it earlier in this thread, and I think it's been recently revisited in an Orange Crush thread.

Thanks for that Walter. I searched all of brents347 posts in this thread and no luck. Searched all of his posts but they only go back for his last 500. Went into OC and found lots of other cool stuff but will need to do more searching. I gotta get off of here and back to the 'real' world....

I'll pm him and see if he remembers where he might have posted the details.

Brents347 was one of the earliest spoke swaps that I know of.
He and I both used 950ADV hubs, custom rotor spacers for the front, custom hub spacers and Buchanan SS spokes.

Brake rotors have a myriad of solutions, but none of the stock rotors work on the ADV hubs.

His front got 310mm rotors (maybe from 625smc) and a 19" Excel rim. Mine got a 19" front rim, plus a 320mm rotor from 450SMR and caliper spacers from the SD990, to fit the larger diameter rotor. The rear hub bolts right on, no custom work required. I first built my rear with a 5" rim to run 150/70, 160/60 or 170/60 sized tires. I found that I really only run 150/70 so I changed to a 4.25" wide rim and superlaced it (cross three and 90* spoke angle).

If there is real interest, PM me and I can cover ALL the particulars!

Pics that Bofaxrunner took during last spring's ride and repair:
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19078662&postcount=1

MCMANN has expereince doing the reverse, ordering Woody's wheels and putting smaller wheels on Adventure's and SE's..

Thanks for the info. Are those the stock front forks? - I thought you had 525 forks for some reason. I take it that there are no rubbing issues with a 19" front when stock forks bottom out? Does a 19" front feel odd on pavement?

I am interested in your wheel project but I currently have my bike budget tied up for suspension work with Slavens. I'm on his waiting list and hope to hear from him this month. I spoke with Slavens and told him I wanted to be able to land 18" of air without bottoming out and breaking stuff but still be supple enough for pavement. He said that should be do-able.

As far as the 2nd set of wheels go, I'm hoping for a setup that would allow me to pull the axles, roll the other set in and slide the axles back in without messing with brakes. I had thought about a 2nd set of stock wheels but it's doubtful they could hold up. What I would like is an orange set that looks like the wheels on Ernie Vigil's Icon Triumph.



Don't know if you all have seen Icon's 1/2 hour video - it's really well done. Alonzo Bodden's talk to the new guy cracks me up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvYAcJOx3s&NR=1&feature=endscreen

On a totally unrelated and non-bike subject, I came accross this video series which is pretty intriguing. Here's the 1st in the series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedLgAF9aEg

I put a Woody's Canyon 19" X 17" wheel set on my SE and did not feel a need to ever take them off. A 19" front worked great for the Forest Service roads I rode . . . . Plus, I could touch the ground!

Woody's is first class quality.
SE/SM Comparison



I prefer the SM tubeless tires over spoked/tubed tires . . . . for Forest Service roads. Tubed tires are a bitch to fix flats on a trail etc. i guess you could seal the spokes for tubeless.