So I've got the tire off the rim, now what...

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  1. tominboise

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  2. larryboy

    larryboy Just obey!

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    Motorcycle tires are too thin for an inside patch, by the time it's buffed properly you're into the steel. Put the tire back on and use this for a permanent repair:

    www.safetyseal.com


    Get their kit and carry it on the bike so you're always ready. Get a Slime compressor or a CO2 inflator kit so you're ready for a roadside repair.
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  3. Cogswell

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    Find some of these...

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    Picture ?
    If bead is really broken then it's wasted !
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    In the US "breaking the bead" just means getting the bead off the rim shoulder so the tire can be removed...it does sound bad though ;-)

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  6. tominboise

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    The tire bead is not broken - I have successfully disengaged it from the rim.

    Where does one find a safety seal kit, or a plug patch?
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    Oh ... Sorry ..
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  8. Cogswell

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    Is there a shop that installs tires and repairs flats in your town ?

    Go down there with $5 or $10 in your hand and see the guy in the shop. :deal


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  9. PineyMountainRacing

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    I bought a couple boxes of patch plugs (2 sizes) from a commercial tire supply store. Many on the Internet. But if you just need one I'd go by a tire store with the nail you pulled out and buy one from them. You need to know what size hole you poked in the tire to get the right size plug/patch
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  11. fallingoff

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    Question
    I have never heard that.
    I usually plug the tyre on the road.
    When I get home take the wheel off.
    Take to bike shop
    Get a inside plug put in.
    Please
    Enlighten me.
    I do sometimes travel at very high speeds.
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  12. 81husky

    81husky Been here awhile

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    I'm not real keen on patching tubeless motorcycle tires. If it ever fails, you could be in deep do-do. Most shops won't patch them (at least the ones I've tried). Those plugs with the flange do look pretty good though.
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    Is a tubeless tire? if so you coud patch and add tube if you had to don't put tube in with out patch cord will cut tube.

    Tractor supply store near you?

    They sell plugs or patches take your pick if its off patch it like its a tube put back on and air up no big deal,

    Tire plugs are another ball of wax use their instructions and they usually will work I even have 6 plugs in one hole in my backhoe tires

    Wall mart even has patches and plugs in the auto section.

    in my tool lit i carry Slime brand patch kit don't get the bicycle patches


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    I stopped at the local O'reilly's and picked up a plug kit and also a patch kit. The instructions for the plug kit say to install the plug and then put a patch over it on the inside. I haven't tried it yet, but am wondering how one patches over a the plug that must be sticking through. Probably overthinking the whole thing....
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  16. QSrider

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    I had a shop use that on one of my tire. It was almost new and they didn't have mine in stock... I was in the middle of a longer trip and couldn't really wait 3 days. Initially put it on to go to the next shop. Ended up finishing the trip (2000+ miles). Didn't loose a pound. I probably could have left the tire longer and be fine... But decided to play it safe and changed it when I got home.
    That plug was put on so well I couldn't catch its edge to pull it off. After messing with it for a while I was convinced that the plug would have been fine for the rest of the life of the tire.
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  17. H96669

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    ^^^ Those plug/patch.:clap Nothing that new about them I used similar back in the days when I was the tire jockey.:wink:

    Had to practice with them recently just in case I have to DIY on the road, lots of shops won't touch motorcycle tires. Mainly in the more litigious countries, not so much in Canada my local shop will install such patches IF you bring them the tire. They did for me on a new Blizzak so I got to watch and see if the techniques had changed in 40 years.....they haven't.:wink:

    I also practiced with the string plugs, funny how easy some of them can be to pull out after installation, all depends on the size of the hole I guess but I sure wouldn't trust them on my bike as a long term repair. Mind you trust is relative to riding conditions.They may never fail for you....:evil
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  18. tominboise

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    So I stopped by the local NAPA this AM and picked this up:

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    The offending nail:

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    The hole to be patched:;

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    Patch installed:

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    Outside view of the end of the plug:

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    Used para cord to reinstall tire:

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    All put back together:

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    I used WD40 as tire lube - it worked great.

    So far, so good. Took a short test ride and it hasn't gone flat yet....
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  19. MiteyF

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    Now that you've got the tire off the rim... you go buy another tire :lol3

    I'd patch a dirt bike tire, but never ever trust a patch on a tire that will be seeing 70mph +. On a car, yes. On a motorcycle, where ONE tire failure could easily kill you? No thanks. I know lots of people have had luck with this, but to me, that's akin to zip-tying your handlebars onto the forks.
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    I use this on both the cars and the motorcycle, no need to remove the tire, the goo strings are good too, the Stop 'n Go has a mushroom head that helps seal and retain it in the tire.

    I have used the goo strings and the mushrooms and had no problems.
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