This guy is really holding your plate hostage? If it were me, I wouldn't even pay for the battery at this point. Tell him to keep he can keep the plate and indicate where he should put it.
mas335, I realize that I shouldn't have left the tag on the bike, but that has nothing to do with the integrity of the sale or the stated condition of the bike. I was just trying to help the seller out. Last time I bought a bike, the seller did the same thing for me and I sent the tag back the next day. I accept the error in judgment, and the buyer needs to accept the fact that he bought the bike as is. This was clearly stated in the bill of sale that we both agreed to and signed. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just clarifying my point.
Hey Karpaasi: You got anything else for sale? If so, I'm in! Seriously, I see 2 ways you can go. a) Pay for the battery and regulator. Set up a maintenance sked for him at a local dealer and let the dealer know you will pay for anything he wants. Maybe not tires, your choice. b) Tell him to go pound salt. I'd be thinking 'b' but my words would be more like "Sorry, the bike was sold as-is, please return my plate, neither one of us wants this to get ugly."
Some deals just go bad in spite of all the good efforts. I am curious what kind of "Battery Trouble" he was having on the ride home?
This is sound, fair, logical and reasonable.....but anyone using a plate as blackmail for something they are not owed is not going to listen. Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience!
Exactly. It's time to make a clean break from this dick. If you still feel obligated to pay for the battery, don't do it until you get the plate FIRST. At this point a simple statement that your business is done, without any explantation other than it was "as-is" is required.
maybe he sold the bike at a profit already?and the battery was ok as well as his charging system.might be he wrecked the bike and is waiting for an insurance settlement?could be he loaned it out and a friend dropped it and his insurance wont cover it?or over 1000 other alternatives.it could be hes trying to rip you off for afew dollars to pay his bar tab.or his ex called and wants the $300 he hasnt paid in child support last month.or..............i cant tell you what to do.but i wouldnt feel obligated unless he still owes you money on the 2006 ST.what did you sell it for $$$wise?maybe he has a bit of buyers remorse and feels he paid too much for the bike.
easyrider88, I sold the bike for $5,500, which included the hard bags and a new tankbag. The bike also had very low miles. I think it was priced fairly. mas335, according to the buyer, the bike wouldn't crank when they stopped for gas an hour or two after they left my house. I pointed them to the closest auto parts store and told them I would pay for a new battery. They may have tried to jump the bike before they tried a new battery (they were talking about doing this), but I'm not sure. The new battery apparently worked and they drove home. A few days later the buyer called, and we agreed that I would send him a check for the battery after he sent the plate with the receipt for the battery. There was no mention of further problems. All seemed fine until today when he emailed me two invoices and basically told me that it's my responsibility to pay for the work he had done to the bike. I never had any issues with the battery when I owned the bike. I didn't ride it a ton, which is why I sold it. That said, I had ridden it several times recently, and no issues were apparent.
The buyer inspected the bike, kicked the tires and test drove it twice, in addition to starting/stopping the bike several times. Again, no issues were apparent. I would have taken care of known issues. I wasn't desperate for the money, and I don't have any reason, financial or otherwise, to screw anyone.
If he's so F'n stupid that he jumped the bike off of a car, even after you told him not to, then he is at fault. Contact you DMV, report the plate as being sold with the vehicle, and ask them to update their records with his information, and state that you are no longer responsible for it. Ask for a case number for your call, and keep it for your records. Take his receipt for the new regulator / rectifier to your local shooting range, and then mail it back to him. Don't be surprised if you get your plate back in the same condition.
All business should be taken care of the date of sale/transaction. Any issues should be taken care of. Once you get the cash and he drives off the deal is FINISHED. 3 weeks later? WTF? Tell him to F off. I had a dude call me once and I just put him on ignore. I told him about a leak in the AC system, I would have showed him where on the date of sale, but the next day? No way. Your on your own bud. I assume this also when I get used junk. I've had parts broke and unexpected repairs, but I don't go whining back to a private party about liability, because there is none on an "as is" sale unfortunately. If it were a relative or good friend, I would have been stuck though. Maybe even lost a "friend"...
There is always some risk when connecting two charging systems together. Usually, nothing bad happens. In this case, parts have failed and there is a possibility that something happened during the 'jump' that caused it. We'll never know for sure.
He's been out ripping the bike through all the speed cameras in town for three weeks, on your tag. Within days, you'll begin to receive letters from 'Automated Traffic Enforcement.' Enjoy!! I've never worried about running without a tag right after purchasing a bike. Hopefully showing the coppers a newly dated title/bill of sale will justify no tag on the ride home.
The two systems are set up a little differently. When a car's electrical system output is equal to the demand on the system the alternator stops generating extra electricity to regulate the system. Most motorcycles have a simpler system with a much smaller output, and also an alternator that essentially puts out a fixed output. Any excess current does not get regulated at the alternator, it is created and then the regulator simply converts it to heat. Now this system works fine but if you hook up a running automobile to a bike the charging current of the car is going to be a greater value than what the bike regulator is set at, so the regulator tries to convert this huge amount of excess electricity into heat and as a result it can essentially cook the regulator on the bike. If the car is not running, and you just hook the two batteries together you will not have a problem so nothing wrong with doing it that way.
I have never had to jump start a bike from a car and hope I never do but this info is really helpful to know.
grease,that last line is some of the best advice ive heard for new people just into motorcycling.hope you dont mind if i repeat it.WHEN jump STARTING youre motorcycle FROM youre CAR DO not ever have YOURE car running.
If there was a charging problem he should have brought the bike to you if he felt you had some kind of obligation, after holding your plate for ransom I'd wash my hands of the whole deal.