How to make neat holes in airbox?

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  1. cat

    cat Long timer

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    How to make neat holes in airbox?
    Can i use a hole punch or would it crack the plastic?
    A sheet metal punch, the kind that you drill a pilot hole and then tighten the tool and...?
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  2. eddie bolted

    eddie bolted BOING!!!

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    Hole saw.!
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  3. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Why are you putting holes in the airbox?
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  4. It'sNotTheBike

    It'sNotTheBike Banned

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    Probably because the OP imagines the trained engineers who designed the air intake
    botched the job, though those engineers had access to a dyno and more than likely spent
    many hours making sure the airflow was optimized for the resonant cavity of the air box,
    ( think of Helmholtz and you will be on the right track).


    How likely is it that the engineers did a bad job and someone who needs to ask how
    best to cut holes in the air box will do a better job ? Sort of like leaving an orangutang
    in front of a typewriter and waiting for the sonnets of Shakespeare to be produced
    ( don't hold your breath waiting for anything intelligible to come out of that typewriter ).




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  5. Wlfman

    Wlfman Long timer

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    1in putty knife. Heat the blade and it melts right thru the plastic making nice straight lines.
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  6. It'sNotTheBike

    It'sNotTheBike Banned

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    You shade tree wannabe "tuners" will have that air box working "right" in no time ... LOL !!!
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  7. groundrules

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    you don't sound as smart as you think you sound.
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  8. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Your right,it seems like a great idea to swiss cheese your airbox,till that first real dusty ride and the filter plugs or passes dirt. Or you just cant quite get the jetting right no matter how much you mess with it,or the new noise produced makes you crazy.
    Its fun to second guess engineers though.
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  9. groundrules

    groundrules Long timer

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    you guys really think every bike shipped from the factory is tuned for maximum performance, or do you think the engineers in question might have had to consider factors like fuel economy or emissions standards or rider-friendly power delivery, or a hundred other factors? I've owned two bikes where airbox mods were a well-documented and much-utilized improvement. It happens.

    now, back to the original question: step drill for small holes.
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  10. kubiak

    kubiak Long timer

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    i havent tried it yet but try a piece of metal pipe the diameter you need and heat the end and push it through the plastic. maybe try it on a extra part first though.
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  11. Skinner

    Skinner Mr.KTM

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    CORRECT!

    It's easy to be a smart ass, it's hard to actually use your brain before just being a dick.
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  12. bomber60015

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    Hole saw or step drill, either one . . . . but back up the plastic with something (soft wood, perhaps) or you may create a hole that is larger than you intended . . . . . (depending on the plastic)
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  13. Bronco638

    Bronco638 Nobody Home

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    I have used this method to good effect.
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  14. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    Step drill....they are cheap at harbor freight. I think mine will go to an inch. Anything bigger and out comes the hole saws. But you need backing for the last otherwise you'll tear the plastic.:cry

    You can countersink the holes....may help with airflow.:wink:

    Smaller holes with side access, out comes dad's old airplane tools, namely the sheet metal punch. I think HF has cheap replicas of that tool.:wink:
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  15. kruzuki

    kruzuki Gear in the Machine

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    And remember to keep the drill speed low so the friction doesn't melt the plastic and ruin your nice, clean edge.
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  16. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Former World's Foremost Authority

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    Step drill makes a nice round hole.
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  17. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    Pic a size and aim well:

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    Gotta say I'm in the camp of "the engineers knew what they were doing" though.
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  18. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Hole saw.

    As for the legitimacy of doing it, it just depends. The engineers, as mentioned, design an airbox for a wide variety of factors. Noise is a big one.

    On my Triumph Scrambler, the airbox mod really helped with an open exhaust.

    Jim :brow
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  19. yankeeone

    yankeeone Been here awhile

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    I would try a new
    forsner bit , cuts a nice clean hole.
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  20. bomber60015

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    Forstner bits work great, but are happiest in a drill press . . . ..
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