The XT1200Z Super Tenere Link Thread MKII

the tenere is more comfortable than the 800gs and 1200 gsa. more dirt worthy and easier to flick around. and about 10G cheaper

The point was not the price but that the Super Tenere headlight is plastic and is highly unlikely to break in the first place, it doesn't need a cover anyway. The glass BM headlight smashes easily.

Al

[10 MAY 2012]

Added Ride On ADV custom work etc to the Accessories and Upgrades (Farkles) section and to the
"Open Source Development" since they are kind enough to show the progress on this site.

[10 MAY 2012]

Added...

Woodies Wheel Works.
http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/YamTenWheels.html
Woody's now does Super Ten.
Also in the "Open Source Development Section" found
here http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14547999&postcount=33

http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/adventure/xt1200z-super-tenere-world-crosser.aspx?view=media#http://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/product_assets/2012/XTZ1200WC/2012-Yamaha-XT1200Z-Super-Tenere-World-Crosser-EU-Viper-Blue-Static-001_gal_full.jpg|ymeGallery1||

[01 JUL 2012]
Added Bash plate list by jaumev [01 JUL 2012]
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19031363&postcount=1

In "Accessories and Upgrades"

http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/31/best-adventure-bike-yamaha-super-tenere/

Almost pulled the trigger on a 2012 XT last week, test drove it, wow, must say super comfortable, nice riding position. Despite the say "average" hp, the parallel twin puts out (sign of the times) it felt great. Given I'll likely use it on road mostly, and we're at the the end of the 2012 year, 2013 models just around the bend, willing to wait and see what the new year offers. Honda V4 CrossTourer (I know, basically a street bike) but love the V4 motor, I'd be willing to bear the pain of that bland Honda look. Too bad that KTM's supposed 2014 1200 Adv is too far away. We'll see....

" For hitting roads less traveled, and in particular ones that aren’t paved, none of the others can match the Yamaha Super Ténéré. It doesn’t shine on the street; it’s solid and comfortable but never thrilling. But if you envision in your future a scenario that includes 600 yards of mud and ruts on an isolated mountain pass at nightfall, this is your bike.
But most of us don’t actually end up in that scenario. Which is why the Multistrada was the number-one choice for all of our testers. It offers class-leading power, great suspension, awesome brakes, nimble handling and all-day comfort." - Cycle World - Adventure-Touring Comparison – The Asphalt Adventurers Aug 2012

Thats the thing, for guys like myself, most of our riding will be on the street, so the "best" Adv Tourer may be something like a Duc MS, or of keen interest now, the possibility of a Honda V4 CrossTourer?

It is interesting to note, however, that "Cycle World" did pick the Yamaha Super Ténéré over all others for "Best Adventure Bike" in their "Ten Best" list for 2012, where they said the following (page 49, Oct. 2012, Vol. 51, No. 10):

Now that said, it's no secret that I don't place much credence in what any motorcycle magazine puts out... Take how the Yamaha FJR "won" the "Cycle World" sport touring comparison shootout for years against an unchanged Honda ST1300, then one year - *POOF* - the ST1300 suddenly "wins"!!!

What really matters is the Super Ténéré is a fantastic, quietly competent, wonderfully versatile motorcycle. Is it the "best" one for you? Only you can answer that...

Dallara




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There have been a few users experience the dreaded "hard start".

There is a particular set of things that have to be done to induce this.

Since I have never had this problem I was keen to see whether I could induce it by running through a few scenarios that have led to it...

This is a bit of a log to see whether I could nail down the important parts.

First day was just running through a few of the ideas that had been floating around. (sped up so it doesn't drag on too long)

20th Jan 2013
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That was a complete fail as far as the hard start goes.

But often people talk about the bike being left for a few days after fiddling or washing.

Well after 2 1/2 days of sitting without the bike being touched and that includes not charging the battery...

23 Jan 2013.
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Now it was cleared pretty easily by going for 1/2 throttle, Some go Wide open and it clears.

After the last video I gave the battery a good rest and a charge.

24 Jan 2013
Started fine. Starting to think it is a combination of a slightly flat battery, cold bike and being left after some short runs.

26 Jan 2013

Last hard tests...
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Pretty clear how it happens, pretty clear how to clear it. Put it down to modern closed loop FI. Also note that after the ECU "thinks" the engine has fired , probably from the initial burst of engine acceleration, it turns the headlight on. If you want to save some battery life cycle the ignition again and the headlights will turn off again. No point burning 100W for no reason. It may be a part of the problem.

Differences between the 2013 XT1200Z and the 2014 XT1200Z and ZE (Europe), according to YAMAHA

2014 XT1200Z
Refined engine with 112PS (82.4kW) @ 7,250rpm and 117 Nm
&#8226;Enhanced D-MODE switchable mapping characteristics:
&#8226;More relaxed and easy feeling in &#8220;T&#8221; mode
&#8226;More exhilarating and exciting sport riding in &#8220;S&#8221; mode
&#8226;Enhanced driveability from mid to high speed range
&#8226;More enjoyable feeling during acceleration and at higher rpm
&#8226;Smoother shifting up and down between 2nd and 3rd gear
&#8226;New: Manually-adjustable 4-position screen with GPS holder
&#8226;New: Cruise Control for more relaxed long distance touring
&#8226;Enlarged intake and exhaust ports
&#8226;Lighter camshaft assembly
&#8226;Redesigned piston rings
&#8226;New exhausts
&#8226;Enhanced shaft drive damper assembly
&#8226;New rubber clutch damper adopted
&#8226;Reduced weight
&#8226;New: LCD instruments with multi-function display
&#8226;New: Gear Position Indicator
&#8226;New: Compact LED flashers
&#8226;New: Extra protection cover under headlights
&#8226;New: Tapered aluminium handlebars
&#8226;New: Handlebar crown and bar holder
&#8226;New: Enhanced more upright riding position
&#8226;New: Redesigned 2-tone stitchless low-profile dual seat
&#8226;New: Tail cover
&#8226;New: Small muffler protector
&#8226;New: Redesigned forged aluminium sidestand

In addition the 2014 XT1200ZE has..

&#8226;Electronically adjustable front and rear suspension
&#8226;Total of 84 potential suspension settings
&#8226;Grip warmers fitted as original equipment
&#8226;Top case base
&#8226;Assist grip
&#8226;Main stand (Centre Stand)

Intruments

2013


2014

excellent work

that sure is nice

Nice job GrahmD. As always.

Yes; good summery Graham... thanks.

Word is that the 2014 won't be released for sale in the States until all previous inventory has been sold... (due to a large inventory here) anyone know if that is true?

Also; what is the new "weight" projected to be??

thanks again for the update, I'll probably upgrade at some point, but I'm in no hurry.

Engine type Forward-inclined parallel 2-cylinder, liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, 4-valves
Displacement 1,199cc
Bore x stroke 98 mm x 79.5 mm
Compression ratio 11.0 : 1
Maximum power 82.4 kW (112PS) @ 7,250 rpm
Maximum Torque 117.0 Nm (11.9 kg-m) @ 6,000 rpm
Lubrication system Dry sump
Fuel Delivery Electronic Fuel Injection
Clutch Type Wet, Multiple Disc
Ignition system TCI
Starter system Electric
Transmission Constant Mesh, 6-speed
Final transmission Shaft
Frame Steel tube backbone
Front suspension Upside-down telescopic fork, Ø 43 mm
Front travel 190 mm
Caster Angle 28º
Trail 126 mm
Rear suspension Swingarm, Adjustable preload and rebound damping, (link suspension), Monoshock
Rear Travel 190 mm
Front brake Hydraulic dual disc, Ø 310 mm wave discs
Rear brake Hydraulic single disc, Ø 282 mm wave disc
Front tyre 110/80R19M/C 59V
Rear tyre 150/70R17M/C 69V
Overall length 2,255 mm [2,250 mm]
Overall width 980 mm
Overall height 1,410 mm
Seat height 845/870 mm
Wheel base 1,540 mm
Minimum ground clearance 190 mm [205mm]
Wet weight (including full oil and fuel tank) 265 kg [257kg]
Fuel tank capacity 23 litres
Oil tank capacity 4.2 litres

Thanks!... Kg's are Greek to me!... :huh

I'll get my calculator out...

looks like about 18 lbs less... or 566 lbs net

Doing a comparison on Yamaha UK the 2014 ZE spec is 4Kgs heavier (265kg)than the 2012 spec S10 (261Kgs) probably due to the extra bits like electro sussies and adjustable screen /larger cat.
The new 2014 stripped out basic S10 is listed as being 257Kgs .

Don't know if this link will work but is a comparison of 2014 S10, 2012 S10 2014 S10ZE and 2012 World crosser (though no different to the other 2012)
http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/products/motorcycles/Compare.aspx?codes=552158,482570,552148,464261

The older bikes are easy to spot as they only have 80.9Kw listed

Thanks for that

The only thing I don't understand is this spec from the XT1200Z...

Overall height 1,410 mm high 1,470 mm ??