Otay Mountain, San Diego County

sandiegoland · 12-18-2005, 06:56 PM

Otay Mountain Truck Trail and Minnewawa Truck Trail. The main road is in pretty fair shape, but there are always the more primative spur roads* for the adventurous...

Commanding views of the area. This is looking south to Cerro Jesus Maria in Mexico

Obligatory backcountry trash photo. Actually the area is relatively clear of large debris for the most part...

Some of the side spur roads are a bit primative...

Some of the spur roads have eronious signage to confuse the uninformed about what is private and what are BLM managed areas. This particular gate marks the boundary of the Marron Valley Preserve.

There are a few roads that reach the border southwest of the main peak...

Lot's of corner mirrors for a road that gets almost no traffic...

It doesn't hurt to have a GPS if you aren't familiar with this area. That way, when you get to a fork in the road, you can take it...

edit: Added these tracks to GPXchange for easy viewing with topographic maps... updated the attached GPX file to account for a locked gate on the West approach to Otay Mountain TT.

edit: * Some useful BLM overlayed topographic maps can be found at http://www.blm.gov/ca/palmsprings/scrmp.html so you can be aware of what roads are excluded from the widlerness area.

Trey650 · 12-18-2005, 08:30 PM

That's a fun area to ride. The mirrors are for when the Border Patrol comes flying around the corners. If it wasn't for those mirrors I would have become a hood ornament a couple of times. You also have to watch out that you don't accidently "cross" the border, the BP gets kinda testy at you if you do.

sandiegoland · 12-19-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trey650

You also have to watch out that you don't accidently "cross" the border, the BP gets kinda testy at you if you do.

But officer... see the GPS says we're in America. Whoops, oh I see... Central America... sorry!

sandiegoland · 04-24-2006, 01:01 PM

Some more from the same area. 4/23/06

Foot traffic near the border from the night before recorded on the wet dirt road:

The road winding down to the border monument provides a clear view of the border:

A close-up:

The view to Downtown San Diego and Point Loma under the threat of weather:

A similar view down into Mexico:

bikeslut · 04-29-2006, 03:28 PM

sandiegoland- let me know if you ever want company down along the border- I want to check out the area, but not necesssarily alone the first time- drz or v strom- I'm in Alpine

sandiegoland · 05-16-2006, 11:09 PM

A few shots taken 5/14/06 -

Sandiegoland and Dils pause to let some local wildlife cross the road (Rubber Boa)

View of Cottonwood Creek before it joins Tecate Creek to become the Tijuana River.

elofdahl · 05-17-2006, 06:42 PM

Thanks for the tracks! I spent a good part of today riding south and west from Dulzura. Eventually I ended up near Otay Mesa at the border fence. I met a nice guy...he worked for the border patrol. His territory did not include the area around Otay Mountain, so he could not understand where I came from. Eventually I convinced him that I turned off Rt 94 at Dulzura and took the easy gravel/dirt roads through the mountains and down to the valley where he worked.

sandiegoland · 05-17-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elofdahl

Thanks for the tracks! I spent a good part of today riding south and west from Dulzura.

Glad you enjoyed the area! I'm always surprised how isolated that area is, being that it is so close to San Diego.

mattybag · 05-17-2006, 11:38 PM

Craig:
From your pictures it looks like you got yourself a DRZ! and it looks like you're putting it to good use. Congrats.

We'll have to get together for a ride soon. This time maybe I'll put one together up here going to Big Bear and the surrounding areas. Sickboy and I did a ride up there this weekend (he finally got his KTM running and was finally able to put some time on his new tires).

Congrats again.
Matt

sandiegoland · 05-18-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mattybag

Craig:
From your pictures it looks like you got yourself a DRZ! and it looks like you're putting it to good use. Congrats.

We'll have to get together for a ride soon. This time maybe I'll put one together up here going to Big Bear and the surrounding areas...

Sure did. Nice little '02 with 4000 miles and all the typical mods already. Added the handguards and the folding mirrors.

Just what I feared though - now I no longer have an excuse for being SLOW! Well it will be lots of fun and hopefully cut down on the DL650 abuse...

sandiegoland · 06-19-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bikeslut

sandiegoland- let me know if you ever want company down along the border- I want to check out the area, but not necesssarily alone the first time- drz or v strom- I'm in Alpine

bikeslut and I had a good ride on Sunday morning. Not too many pics (the views into Mexico were a bit hazy), but we successfully we ran that section of the old Tecate Truck Trail that forks off of Kuchamaa Truck Trail (which was new for me). It was a 23% grade compounded by a really loose surface.

A few memories of the day:

This time it's the real McCoy - a Rattle Snake. In the final drop into Marron Valley it was stretched out and hidden from view until the last second behind a whoopdy in the road. I saw him curl up at the last moment but wasn't confident that I had cleared him with both wheels. We walked back and took a look, and from we could observe from its movements it looked unscathed. This makes the fourth snake in two months I have managed to avoid running over! I'm 0 for 4!

This is the US-Mexico border fence looking West at point "LTDBR" (attachment 102500.gpx)

This is the US-Mexico border fence looking East at point "LTDBR" (attachment 102500.gpx)

Here's a bonus ADVrider FYYFF rock along the border...

This is a pic from a previous ride showing Kuchamaa Truck Trail dropping down. The old Tecate Truck Trail we headed up can be seen forking off to the right at the left most part of the photo...

bikeslut · 06-20-2006, 07:42 AM

getting a bit warm now, but I'll take the kids out in September. they were not too impressed with rattlesnake picture I took "we saw a bigger one than that..." but they are eager to go tackle some of those roads

sandiegoland · 06-20-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bikeslut

...they were not too impressed with rattlesnake picture I took "we saw a bigger one than that..."

Heh heeeh!!!

That's actually the first rattler I've seen in a long time down here in San Diego.

C2W · 06-20-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiegoland

Heh heeeh!!!

That's actually the first rattler I've seen in a long time down here in San Diego.

I think they are all living in RSF Craig. . . .(Nice PIX)

sandiegoland · 06-20-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by C2W

I think they are all living in RSF Craig. . . .(Nice PIX)

They gotta be where all the tasty rodents are, present company excluded of course!!

12-18-2005, 08:30 PM	#2
Trey650 Are We There Yet? Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Poway, California Oddometer: 1,813	That's a fun area to ride. The mirrors are for when the Border Patrol comes flying around the corners. If it wasn't for those mirrors I would have become a hood ornament a couple of times. You also have to watch out that you don't accidently "cross" the border, the BP gets kinda testy at you if you do. __________________ 2006 CRF450X 2001 XR650R DS 2005 CRF230F For Sale 2002 Polaris 400 Scrambler For Sale Class 10 Cage DRIVE Class 10 Champion Save $5 on Smugmug!! Use code cQNk2QFrIDFCo

05-17-2006, 06:42 PM	#7
elofdahl n00b Joined: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego Oddometer: 7	Thanks for the tracks! I spent a good part of today riding south and west from Dulzura. Eventually I ended up near Otay Mesa at the border fence. I met a nice guy...he worked for the border patrol. His territory did not include the area around Otay Mountain, so he could not understand where I came from. Eventually I convinced him that I turned off Rt 94 at Dulzura and took the easy gravel/dirt roads through the mountains and down to the valley where he worked. __________________ Eddie '06 KLR650 '03 Suzuki Bandit 1200S

05-17-2006, 11:38 PM	#9
mattybag Parrothead/Singlespeeder Joined: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Oddometer: 89	New (To you) DRZ? Craig: From your pictures it looks like you got yourself a DRZ! and it looks like you're putting it to good use. Congrats. We'll have to get together for a ride soon. This time maybe I'll put one together up here going to Big Bear and the surrounding areas. Sickboy and I did a ride up there this weekend (he finally got his KTM running and was finally able to put some time on his new tires). Congrats again. Matt __________________ Matt "we never failed to fail, it was the easiest thing to do."

06-20-2006, 07:42 AM	#12
bikeslut adventurous stud Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Alpine-where the twisty roads start Oddometer: 1,258	thanks again for the tour getting a bit warm now, but I'll take the kids out in September. they were not too impressed with rattlesnake picture I took "we saw a bigger one than that..." but they are eager to go tackle some of those roads

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04-24-2006, 01:01 PM	#4
sandiegoland ^OP Adventure Boy® Joined: Oct 2005 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Oddometer: 1,742	Some more from the same area. 4/23/06 Foot traffic near the border from the night before recorded on the wet dirt road: The road winding down to the border monument provides a clear view of the border: A close-up: The view to Downtown San Diego and Point Loma under the threat of weather: A similar view down into Mexico:

04-29-2006, 03:28 PM	#5
bikeslut adventurous stud Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Alpine-where the twisty roads start Oddometer: 1,258	sandiegoland- let me know if you ever want company down along the border- I want to check out the area, but not necesssarily alone the first time- drz or v strom- I'm in Alpine

05-16-2006, 11:09 PM	#6
sandiegoland ^OP Adventure Boy® Joined: Oct 2005 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Oddometer: 1,742	A few shots taken 5/14/06 - Sandiegoland and Dils pause to let some local wildlife cross the road (Rubber Boa) View of Cottonwood Creek before it joins Tecate Creek to become the Tijuana River.