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Old 10-19-2006, 01:36 PM   #61
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Kerhonky

the symbol for a pot IS different than a resistor

look at the THIRD leg

see the arrow pointing to the resistor symbol?

that's the WIPER in the pot that moves along the resistor and varies the resistance
Ah. Again.

Well, even if I don't try to build one of these things, I've already had quite an education in electronics and its symbology. Thanks for your answers thus far.

Couple more questions:

Do I have to use a 12mm pot? I have not been able to find such a critter yet. What headaches will I incur if I use a different type?

Does it matter what kind of capacitor I use? In the 0.1 uF variety, I've found ceramic, film and other types.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:01 PM   #62
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OK, I've got my 30 ga wire threaded through the mesh lining of a thin cross-country ski jacket I had, and I'm trying to figure out a simple on/off switch. I was thinking of a "feed through" or "cord through" switch so that I can turn the jacket on and off without having to unhook it, but the only ones I can find are rated for 125V. If I get a switch rated for 10 amps at 125V, will it be able to handle the 3 amps of current I'm drawing at 12.5V?
Switches are rated on current, voltage is almost irrelevant.

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Old 10-19-2006, 05:57 PM   #63
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I saw somewhere else on the net where someone had made a penny-tech 'heated vest' by taking a bargain-store T-shirt and cutting it open down the front, sewing some velcro on to close it back up; then he hot-melt glued his ~28ga heater wire all around on the outside of the shirt. I wondered whether the hot-melt glue wouldn't melt from the heat of the wire, but by his report it held together just fine. So why not take a pair of cheap poly gloveliners and glue some wires around the outside?
mine was similiar to that (but used 'heat bond' fabric tape) and thus was born my avatar.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ht=home+heated
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:06 PM   #64
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Ah. Again.

Well, even if I don't try to build one of these things, I've already had quite an education in electronics and its symbology. Thanks for your answers thus far.

Couple more questions:

Do I have to use a 12mm pot? I have not been able to find such a critter yet. What headaches will I incur if I use a different type?

Does it matter what kind of capacitor I use? In the 0.1 uF variety, I've found ceramic, film and other types.
Have you looked here?
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:14 PM   #65
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So ... 30f of 30 gauge wire .... bond it to a vest ... plug it to .... what?
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:02 PM   #66
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Have you looked here?
I hadn't, but I should have, because that's where I got the 30 AWG wire.

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still using a roller type in-line lamp switch with a radio shack LED for indication
So what's the advantage of the PWM over the lamp dimmer? Just more efficient? Is that terribly important if I'm not running any other accessories?
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Old 10-21-2006, 03:11 PM   #67
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If you are "TFC" to buy a good vest why are you in the GSpot?????
Or dou you really just ride a CX500 honda?
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Old 10-21-2006, 05:28 PM   #68
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This might work good for parts

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...up?Ntt=blanket
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:59 AM   #69
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If you are "TFC" to buy a good vest why are you in the GSpot?????
Or dou you really just ride a CX500 honda?
well firstly, THIS is EQUIPMENT, not GSpot

secondly, if you have to act all superior and shit, just just because they don't have a "what-ever-the-fuck-you-think-is-the-optimal-bike" ... then just go buy a harley and join the rest of the "I'm-so-much-better'n-you" RUBs. Just because you may have a lot of free consumable income doesn't mean everyone does.
And some people actually LIKE to do things themselves, rather than buy the newest bling bling that "everybody" has.

thirdly, a CX500 is better'n NO bike , climb down off your pedistal and find out that some people don't have your lifestyle ... and that doesn't mean YOUR'S is better.

damn that was good coffee ... just add some NoDoze and ZAM! POW! ZAP!


by the way n00b

welcome

I guess

and fill outcher profile so we can "see" what you ride ... you sound like what's his name with his list of high$$ toys in his sig line
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:33 AM   #70
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Nice rant XTF! I gonna give it a 7.

Back to the topic....here's what the heating elements from the 8 dollar Wal-Mart heated car seat pad look like, for anyone who's interested.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:14 AM   #71
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Nice rant XTF! I gonna give it a 7.

Back to the topic....here's what the heating elements from the 8 dollar Wal-Mart heated car seat pad look like, for anyone who's interested.
Hiya Ron

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I like the "panel" method much better'n stringing wires all over ... too much like work

those look pretty usable to me

how many watts?

my panels are about 8"X8" and about 8 watts each

started sewing velcro on the extra 2 so I can strap them on my forearms or biceps and help the cold arm syndrome

I need to look at some of my industrial suppliers and see what I can find that's usable too ...

JCwhatnot has the heated seat covers too ... here for $19.99 ... "35 Watts of power maintains 110°-120° F "

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Old 10-23-2006, 09:37 AM   #72
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I didn't sew those up, that's what the panels looked like when I took them out of the heated seat pad. The two panels work out 35 watts.

I used a difrrent brand pad on my other one, and it worked out to
50 watts.

The panels are about 10 X 12 inches each. The wire used in them isn't regular
wire, I think it might be nichrome, with a fiberglass coating on it.
(that's just a guess though)

EDIT: Just checked your link, that's what they look like more or less...
maybe check WalMart, I'm pretty sure I paid about 8 bucks CDN for them.

A friend of mine liked the idea so much, he picked up 6 of them, and was going to heat his motorcycle seat and stuff as well.

I suppose you could also use them to keep your beer from frezzing in the tank bag! :)
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:44 AM   #73
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I didn't sew those up, that's what the panels looked like when I took them out of the heated seat pad. The two panels work out 35 watts.

I used a difrrent brand pad on my other one, and it worked out to
50 watts.

The panels are about 10 X 12 inches each. The wire used in them isn't regular
wire, I think it might be nichrome, with a fiberglass coating on it.
(that's just a guess though)

EDIT: Just checked your link, that's what they look like more or less...
maybe check WalMart, I'm pretty sure I paid about 8 bucks CDN for them.

A friend of mine liked the idea so much, he picked up 6 of them, and was going to heat his motorcycle seat and stuff as well.

I suppose you could also use them to keep your beer from frezzing in the tank bag! :)
yeah I got that they were "ripouts" ... mine were pre-paneled too

still way way better'n stringing wire all over hell's half acre

I'm gonna look for something else more abuser friendly, I'll post it up when I find it



by the way, I LIKE my beer cold ... warm it up???
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:50 AM   #74
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Funny thing is, when it comes to running the clothing, I have to keep an
eye on the voltage on the KLR 650, but the Suzuki Burgman scooter will
run electrics like crazy! It's got a 120 watt outlet biult right into the glove box...
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:59 PM   #75
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If I could have bought the thing for 18 bucks I would have as well!

By the time I get anything out of the "States and into Canada, it costs
me more than double.

I should have corrected my schematic, that resistor should be a
470 ohm, 1/4 watt. My wife get them for me for 3 cents each, when I buy 100. I'm always playing with electronics and stuf, so like to have lots of spare parts around!!
Regarding controllers, how do either the home-made or store bought $16 to $18 units compare with Heat Troller?

In other words, can I sell my Heat Troller and get one of these, with similar performance?

Thanks for sharing all your great info with the rest of us!
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