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Old 01-07-2014, 07:59 PM   #7666
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You should point the finger at Hella....it's their lights that Guzzi selected as an accessory.
Guzzi does need to be aware of the issue so they can take preventative measures on the assembly line....but it's not a Guzzi quality issue.

My left Hella went out near the end of a 5,500 mile road trip about three months into ownership and at approximately 10,000 miles. Dealer fixed it, it was a blown H3 bulb - no funky wiring/arcing issues.


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I like Guzzi's (the Stelvio is my second one), but I have to add to what Dan is saying here. As an electrical engineer, it's appalling that the designers slapped that together like they did. Making it possible for a short in the aux lights to take out the generator really is inexcusable. There are SOOOO many more places that they could have tapped into the loom for those lights, or just spend the extra $5 and put another, dedicated fuse into the fuse block for them and be done.

Come on Guzzi/PGA, do the right thing and redesign this. It should take about 30 seconds....

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Old 01-07-2014, 08:54 PM   #7667
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You should point the finger at Hella....it's their lights that Guzzi selected as an accessory.
If Guzzi is selling the Hella lights as an official accessory then it's their responsibility to make sure the lights function correctly on the bike.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:07 PM   #7668
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Believe me SM. With a tooth brush, Q-Tips and baking soda solution.
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Thanks for that.

Wow. That's too bad. I was hoping my last go-through with the brush would end my fuzzy-troubles, but it's not looking good.

Like you, I've had many other brands of bikes and many batteries and I've never had a problem like this before. Time to start shopping for a new (different) battery.....

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:30 PM   #7669
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I was hoping my last go-through with the brush would end my fuzzy-troubles, but it's not looking good.
After cleaning up the fuzz a few times, I coated the connections with dielectric grease and they still look good.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:03 PM   #7670
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After cleaning up the fuzz a few times, I coated the connections with dielectric grease and they still look good.
I did the same about 3 weeks ago (brush, neutralize, grease). So far it looks OK, but one more fuzzy terminal and it's off to the recycler for the Yuasa....

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Old 01-08-2014, 07:15 AM   #7671
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I did the same about 3 weeks ago (brush, neutralize, grease). So far it looks OK, but one more fuzzy terminal and it's off to the recycler for the Yuasa....

-SM
Mike at MPH recommended good old vaseline - after the fuzz came back using deilectric & it's been fine since

'Course it could be that the electrolite reach equilibrium and the venting stopped
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:22 PM   #7672
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:09 PM   #7673
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:18 PM   #7674
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If Guzzi is selling the Hella lights as an official accessory then it's their responsibility to make sure the lights function correctly on the bike.
not everybody has had issues with the Hellas....me for instance.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:30 PM   #7675
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not everybody has had issues with the Hellas....me for instance.
Mine are still like new too. They're sitting on a shelf in the garage.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #7676
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not everybody has had issues with the Hellas....me for instance.
And so far I am carrying on the tradition with no issues. I do have them fused and did make sure they were well insulated and all the wires are neat and tidy in the rubber cap. No shorts and not even any abrasion on the wires. My issue is with the high beam.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:18 PM   #7677
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Mine has been down in the dirt on both sides, so they are pretty beat up, but they still work. I've never checked the wiring.

I have one of Kirb's fuse kits "installed" in the tank bag, waiting for some free time.
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:05 AM   #7678
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Mine are still like new too. They're sitting on a shelf in the garage.
Yup, me too, in mint condition.

I honestly don't miss them. The headlights are great on this bike.

I might consider some nice LED lights later on but it's way down on the list of priorities. I want a better rear shock much worse.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:06 AM   #7679
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Mine has been down in the dirt on both sides, so they are pretty beat up, but they still work. I've never checked the wiring.

I have one of Kirb's fuse kits "installed" in the tank bag, waiting for some free time.
Awesome! Two of my things that look great, get zero use...
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:08 AM   #7680
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On another note, my Fiamm horn set came in yesterday and I've got a relay waiting on the bench. I'm hoping to get them installed this coming weekend.
Ok, I got the horns installed today, wahoo!!! They sound like how I remember the Fiamms on my old BMW sounding, AWESOME, like a friggen truck.

It turns out they can be installed using only the hardware that comes with them plus a 5 pin relay and some wire. I use used standard 5 pin automotive relay from Napa. You can also get the mating connector pigtail from Napa. The 5 pin version has 2 output terminal so the horns can be run in parallel so if one fails the other will still work. I used a Battery Tender fused lead cut up to get my fused power lead to the battery, love those leads for a cheap fused link.

The original horn wires can connect to the coil closing pins on the new relay. The ground wires that come with the horns can be used as is, along with the brackets. You will need to do some creative bending of the brackets but they work fine. You will also need to clip off one of the plastic posts on the side panels that isn't used for anything as it hits the horn.

Here's some pix of the installation.

The hardware that comes with the horns.


The right side showing the horn mounted and where I chose to mount the new relay.


A close up showing the mounting bracket.


The left side which also shows the ground wire installed.


A shot showing the post that needs to be clipped off.


And some shots after the panels are replaced.






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