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Old 03-12-2009, 06:18 AM   #151
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Doesn't it make more sense to try and have the trailer wheel centered under the load instead of behind it? Wouldn't it give more neutral handling characteristics to the bike? Most one wheel trailers seem to go the same route except this one.

http://www.monogo.com/Anglais/laRemo...escription.php
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:11 PM   #152
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You MADE that?? Holy crap! It's amazing!

Helluva first post! Welcome to the board!
Cheers. It's the culmination of 3 years of testing various trailer chassis and designs on the back of my bike. The body plug shown has taken 8 months work to get to that stage. Another week and then it’s off to have a mould made and get my first proper body back.
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:07 AM   #153
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Yes, but "wheelbase" of the trailer and tongue weight play an important role too.

I'm no expert, but I understand that too short a trailer will wallow, that there is a minimum length shorter than which you don't want to go. That would be distance between contact patches, (bike rear wheel and trailer wheel) not overall trailer length.

Equally unscientific, I think you need a suitable downward tongue weight for stability. I base this belief only on what I know of two-wheeled trailers.



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Doesn't it make more sense to try and have the trailer wheel centered under the load instead of behind it? Wouldn't it give more neutral handling characteristics to the bike? Most one wheel trailers seem to go the same route except this one.

http://www.monogo.com/Anglais/laRemo...escription.php
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:55 AM   #154
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What i've envisioned is a trailer with the wheel centered and a couple of bags to match my Jesse's hanging off each side. something like the Dauntless one but with two bags instead of one in the center. That make any sense?

http://www.dauntlessmotors.com/Mount...ont%20Side.JPG
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:50 AM   #155
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Ah-HAH! You have discovered my secret! I guess great minds think alike.

You may have noticed that I kept referring to "ideas for cargo storage" and that I was only posting diagrams of my frame design. That's because I too was planning on using hard saddlebags for the trailer. I'm planning on building a custom flat-sided narrow box on top of the frame rails and bolting Givi mounting lugs on it, so you would have a modest amount of storage as part of the trailer, and then it would be expandable by mounting Givi bags to either side.

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What i've envisioned is a trailer with the wheel centered and a couple of bags to match my Jesse's hanging off each side. something like the Dauntless one but with two bags instead of one in the center. That make any sense?

http://www.dauntlessmotors.com/Mount...ont%20Side.JPG
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:14 PM   #156
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Wow. Doesn't anyone draw on paper anymore. I feel so, well, old. All my drawing were on small pieces of paper over about one and a half years of R and D.
I just figured out how to post a picture on here.







Here is my little gem. It has done me well. It's now for sale and I'm building 2 more. This hitch is the 2nd generation and I am on # 4 now.
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Old 03-14-2009, 06:30 AM   #157
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Ah-HAH! You have discovered my secret! I guess great minds think alike.

You may have noticed that I kept referring to "ideas for cargo storage" and that I was only posting diagrams of my frame design. That's because I too was planning on using hard saddlebags for the trailer. I'm planning on building a custom flat-sided narrow box on top of the frame rails and bolting Givi mounting lugs on it, so you would have a modest amount of storage as part of the trailer, and then it would be expandable by mounting Givi bags to either side.

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Exactly!!

The trouble though is if I wanted to match the Jesse's it's over $1000 just for the bags, plus the trailer itself

I keep wondering if it would make any sense to move the wheel inwards a bit
to the centre of your box. You loose a bit of storage but have less weight on the rear of the bike.


Did you think about using a regular hitch on the bike? Maybe these guys make one.

http://www.hitchusa.com/
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:55 AM   #158
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The trouble though is if I wanted to match the Jesse's it's over $1000 just for the bags, plus the trailer itself
What about using these? $293 delivered.

http://www.klr650.com/aluminumboxes.htm

They wouldn't match the jesses, but they would complement them...
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:37 PM   #159
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What about using these? $293 delivered.

http://www.klr650.com/aluminumboxes.htm

They wouldn't match the jesses, but they would complement them...
But they are CRAP
C hinese
R eproducing
A merican
P roducts

buy American, buy Happy Trails.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:54 PM   #160
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But they are CRAP
C hinese
R eproducing
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P roducts

buy American, buy Happy Trails.

Good to know
Thanks for the info
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:50 PM   #161
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Sure and you could even powder coat them or better yet do a Rhino liner treatment so they don't get stoned chipped all to hell by crap thrown up by the back wheel.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:41 AM   #162
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Why do you hate the free market system?

Although a lot of C.R.A.P. is crap, these are not bad at all.




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Old 03-17-2009, 05:34 PM   #163
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I'm close of finishing the plans for a trailer I'll make and was nice seeing this post.

I used to race downhill mountain bikes and I've been over 60 mph on dirt and jumps and over 80 mph being pulled by trucks on pavement on my bicycle and the tires holded perfectly

Also, having the wheel at the fardest point gives you a lot more stability than having it in the middle of the trailer (the longer the wheelbase the better)

Good idea to have a shock on it but If you can get a progressive and adjustable one would be great so you can adjust it according to the terrain and load.

And I think the best is to attach the hitch to the bike's rear axle instead of the top of the bike. So it doesnt affect the bike suspension

Ok.. so those are my thoughts.. now I have a question

1 or 2 tires on the back??? I still cant make my mind on it. So if any of you guys have tried both please let me know what you think works better
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:14 AM   #164
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Hey, some good points but first I have to ask .... 80mph being towed behind a truck you're braver than I am

I think I get the point about having the wheel behind the load but that would apply on a one wheel trailer as opposed to a two wheel, right?

This two wheel is larger but I was impressed by the design and options on carrier size

http://pod-ium.com/PODIUM-motorcycle...-aluminum.html
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:54 AM   #165
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Wow! That POD-ium thing is cool!

I need to replace my small utility trailer soon, too, so I may have to look more into that! I mostly carry kayaks and bikes on it, and the occasional Home Depot or dump run...


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Hey, some good points but first I have to ask .... 80mph being towed behind a truck you're braver than I am

I think I get the point about having the wheel behind the load but that would apply on a one wheel trailer as opposed to a two wheel, right?

This two wheel is larger but I was impressed by the design and options on carrier size

http://pod-ium.com/PODIUM-motorcycle...-aluminum.html
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