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Old 10-24-2007, 12:13 PM   #121
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Monogo trailer

saw a Monogo trailer at the BMW Nat,l this year- call about it but you have to take your bike to Canada to get fitted.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:38 AM   #122
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Hmmm...a trailer balanced over the wheel would be nice. No need to load up the subframe with a bad design. But hell, ANY trailer would be great if it were designed with ADV's in mind.

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:32 PM   #123
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i would like to see more about this . There is a guy in our area that pullls a seakayak behind a concourse
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:18 PM   #124
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:07 PM   #125
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Trailer design

Here's some ideas I had for a trailer frame. One wheel, swingarm mount. Uses a scooter wheel (10"?) and tire and a pit bike swingarm and shock. I have some ideas for the cargo storage, but these diagrmas show only the frame.

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Old 01-27-2008, 07:46 PM   #126
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Here are some photos. I just got the camera so I hope this works.



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Old 01-27-2008, 08:08 PM   #127
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Here are some photos. I just got the camera so I hope this works.
It worked! Good job, I like that trailer! Any idea how much it weighs? And how many pounds of weight have you put on it?
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Old 01-28-2008, 06:09 AM   #128
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Looks good, keep us posted when you get it painted. Looks like you could fit an Oklahoma deer on there. I don't think a deer from corn country would fit. Thanks for the pic's
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Old 01-28-2008, 06:09 PM   #129
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The trailer wieght is 34lbs.
When I was testing the trailer I had 102 lbs on it. That was way to much. I could really feel it, it would push when braking and i could feel it lean in the corners. It just did not feel safe. I have put all my turnout gear plus a med. duffle. Somewhere around 40 lbs. and it felt safe. I could run from home to work carrieing all my stuff and it worked fine. I would run the short way, about 40 mins on 2 and 4 lane roads, up to 80 MPH. Some days the long way is much better, all 2 lane and some gravel up to 70 MPH.

I'm thinking some basic black for the paint.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:05 AM   #130
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My mates spent a lllloooonnnngggg time getting these just right. Perfectionists.
Not exactly what you'd call 'Adventure ready', but Leigh's has been used between The Snowy Mts (East Coast) and Carnarvon (West coast). The new ones just did Tasmania.

http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251837822-A-LB
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838609-A-LB

The yellow/white one is he prototype.
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838970-A-LB
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838952-A-LB

I did think about putting one behind the 950. May still do it.
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:58 AM   #131
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Wow! They're BIG. Are they heavy? Any details on their construction?



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My mates spent a lllloooonnnngggg time getting these just right. Perfectionists.
Not exactly what you'd call 'Adventure ready', but Leigh's has been used between The Snowy Mts (East Coast) and Carnarvon (West coast). The new ones just did Tasmania.

http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251837822-A-LB
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838609-A-LB

The yellow/white one is he prototype.
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838970-A-LB
http://scray.smugmug.com/gallery/4296768#251838952-A-LB

I did think about putting one behind the 950. May still do it.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:50 PM   #132
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Wow! They're BIG. Are they heavy? Any details on their construction?
Physically Big, yes. Not that heavy, though. Fibreglass boat, steel chassis. The first one even had a custom built wire wheel, to match the wire wheels on the GS!

Perhaps one of the most interesting things was that it appeared to reduce fuel consumption. Both blokes had GS1150s. One towed the trailer, one had panniers. Both solo. Rode together, Adelaide to Tumut to Adelaide, about 2500km. The one towing the trailer got better fuel mileage every time. We reckoned it just cleaned up the air behind the bike.
Dale just reckons Leigh has a limp wrist.
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #133
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Physically Big, yes. Not that heavy, though. Fibreglass boat, steel chassis. The first one even had a custom built wire wheel, to match the wire wheels on the GS!

Perhaps one of the most interesting things was that it appeared to reduce fuel consumption. Both blokes had GS1150s. One towed the trailer, one had panniers. Both solo. Rode together, Adelaide to Tumut to Adelaide, about 2500km. The one towing the trailer got better fuel mileage every time. We reckoned it just cleaned up the air behind the bike.
Dale just reckons Leigh has a limp wrist.
I think the point is they are not really dual sport trailers, at least not the kind I would take off road.
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:20 PM   #134
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I think the point is they are not really dual sport trailers, at least not the kind I would take off road.
To a point, you're right. One of the issues we did have was in Western Australia. A mixture of really bad corrugations, sand and bulldust, the trailer tended to push the rear of the bike around, so dirt road riding proved difficult.

Contrast that to a relatively short ride over the mountains where the set up was a few minutes slower than on a solo or sidecar. Much less corrugations, no sand or bulldust.

Point is, though, I think any trailer is going to be difficult in difficult conditions. You're riding something that now has two vertical pivot points. It's probably okay when you are on the throttle and pulling the trailer, but when you close the throttle and have the trailer bouncing around on corrugations at the same time, it is going to be interesting at the very least.

The expressions 'adventure', 'dual sport' and 'all roads' can be interpreted in different ways. I'm more into 'all road' touring, because I tend to do a lot of riding alone (yeah, yeah, Neville No Friends). I've fallen over a few times & got away without injuring myself, so single track isn't for me. I like the idea that someone may come along and lift the bike off me before I die of thirst.



On the point of 'where to hitch', I've never seen a trailer that has the hitch through the axis of the rear wheel but, sidecars place MUCH greater lateral loads on all of the components of a motorcycle and, with the loads being leveraged by the full rolling radius of the wheel, the leverage on the bearings is comparitively huge.

I can't see that a light weight trailer, ridden in sensible conditions, is going to add excessive load to the wheel bearing. As long as the hitch pivot doesn't extend a stupid length past the outer side of the swing arm and there is no binding in either vertical or horizontal plane, I'd reckon the bearings would be fine. 'Light' & 'sensible' are key points to remember.

I considered having one of the trailers made for my 950 but wasn't sure about it and the bike was still in the warranty period. This thread has me thinking, again. Two hitches, one for the KTM, one for the sidecar....
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:12 AM   #135
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Bump.................

Has anyone made any improvements or built new trailers?
waiting.....waiting.......waiting......
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