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Old 11-23-2010, 11:38 AM   #21631
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Thanks for posting those photos guys. Now maybe Santa can bring me A GL since I've been so nice this year.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:52 AM   #21632
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Talking about XR400 oil coolers, will the XR250 oil cooler work also?
I'm sure it would work, and probably easier to fab on with the banjo bolts. The only downside is that there isn't the same surface area as the xr400 cooler, maybe you could double up the XR250's.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:15 PM   #21633
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Talking about XR400 oil coolers, will the XR250 oil cooler work also?
The XR250 cooler I installed on my bike works fine, if not great. The summer I put mine on I was every day running up to 275 degrees. After installing the XR250 cooler it would sometimes run up to 240 degrees, but mostly stayed in the 220-230 range in the same temperatures on the same trails.

The shorter XR250 makes cramped quarters cable routing a non-issue. Hooking up the XR250 cooler couldn't be easier, just cut the cooler lines past the banjo fittings and the bikes' oil lines then connect them together with flexible transmission lines and hose clamps. The used price for a XR250 cooler is usually $25.

Some guys say the XR250 cooler is not worth the effort, but yet have never tried this cooler on a XR600/650L. I have and it is a very cheap and very effective way to bring down the oil temperatures in the summer heat.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:40 PM   #21634
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:17 PM   #21635
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Talking about XR400 oil coolers, will the XR250 oil cooler work also?
I`d have to agree with Steve,,not enough oil capacity,surface area to be worth the effort..Flatfender says it works though....i`d go XR400 or check out GSMarks oil cooler.......Vanpelt also makes a nice one...bolts to the skidplate..

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Old 11-23-2010, 02:23 PM   #21636
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B,

Ya may have gotten off cheap but you sure missed the



BLING

of that new triple clamp


My friends say I have enough "Bling"............
When/If I do the front fork swap,.................then I'll get the Bling.


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Old 11-23-2010, 04:17 PM   #21637
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I`d have to agree with Steve,,not enough oil capacity,surface area to be worth the effort..Flatfender says it works though....i`d go XR400 or check out GSMarks oil cooler.......Vanpelt also makes a nice one...bolts to the skidplate..

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A fellow ADV'er has a oil cooler he wants to sell. His screen name is 57Frontier.
You might PM him a get a new oil cooler, at a good price.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:24 PM   #21638
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A fellow ADV'er has a oil cooler he wants to sell. His screen name is 57Frontier.
You might PM him a get a new oil cooler, at a good price.
Here it is:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633437
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:35 PM   #21639
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A fellow ADV'er has a oil cooler he wants to sell. His screen name is 57Frontier.
You might PM him a get a new oil cooler, at a good price.
check out power steering coolers and other bike coolers on ebay. i get mine from ebay since they are so cheap but it took awhile to get one that doesnt cool the oil too much. i ended up with a 84 kawasaki gpz550 oil cooler which is just right.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:41 PM   #21640
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Hadn't seen the coyote with a cyclerack and wonder if it would be to wide.

The nice thing about the GL bags is they don't need racks. They are designed to be used without racks. I have an orginal GL, the bolt on version and I have it mounted just behind the end of the seat but it could be mounted further forward so a fender rack would fit behind it. The owner/designer is here on ADV and goes by the handle: Wachs. He lives a few miles from me and is super cool so he might have some suggestions for you. Just PM him.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:14 PM   #21641
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If I get a complete CRF triple clamp (like this set), I can use my L steering stem by purchasing conversion bearings from All Balls?

Also, if I use the CRF triples, will they work with the stock steering stops?
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:48 PM   #21642
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Well you know what they say. Everyone has one.
Not an opinion, if the cooler didn't cut it I would post a warning to avoid it.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:21 AM   #21643
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If I get a complete CRF triple clamp (like this set), I can use my L steering stem by purchasing conversion bearings from All Balls?

Also, if I use the CRF triples, will they work with the stock steering stops?
No and No.

The CRF steering tube is larger diameter than the XRL top and bottom. You would need an Emig Racing conversion stem and top bushing.

These stems allows the conversion of 00-08 CR/CRF forks on a XR400 or XR600 / XR650L. The steering stem accepts the CR triple clamps, while accommodating the XR bearings and correct length. Stem will retain the stock spanner and top clamp nuts. When using the CR top clamp, an additional bushing is necessary to fit this steering stem to the top clamp stem bore. The stem's top clamp dimension cannot be made to accept the CR top clamp bore, as the XR bearing is smaller.

XR 400 Conversion Stem $150 Complete Conversion Clamp Kit Available....Click Here
XR 600 / XR650L Conversion Stem $150
Top Clamp Stem Bore Bushing $30

And the CRF triples don't line up with the XRL frame stops so I add some material at either side to the bottom of the steering tube. I used a 1/2" Woodruff key. Dry fit the triple trees and filed to final fit.




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Old 11-24-2010, 05:48 AM   #21644
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No and No.

The CRF steering tube is larger diameter than the XRL top and bottom. You would need an Emig Racing conversion stem and top bushing.

These stems allows the conversion of 00-08 CR/CRF forks on a XR400 or XR600 / XR650L. The steering stem accepts the CR triple clamps, while accommodating the XR bearings and correct length. Stem will retain the stock spanner and top clamp nuts. When using the CR top clamp, an additional bushing is necessary to fit this steering stem to the top clamp stem bore. The stem's top clamp dimension cannot be made to accept the CR top clamp bore, as the XR bearing is smaller.

XR 400 Conversion Stem $150 Complete Conversion Clamp Kit Available....Click Here
XR 600 / XR650L Conversion Stem $150
Top Clamp Stem Bore Bushing $30

And the CRF triples don't line up with the XRL frame stops so I add some material at either side to the bottom of the steering tube. I used a 1/2" Woodruff key. Dry fit the triple trees and filed to final fit.




I've also heard that the CRF forks need to be shortened a bit because they are longer than stock XRL forks. Is that true? I was told that using them "as is" messes up the geometry, making the bike want to turn less than it already does.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:52 AM   #21645
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I do have the CRF forks raised about 1"+ above the upper triple. Works fine for me. Some people raise the XRL forks. 2 each their own.
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