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Idaho_XR · 10-31-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingwombat

This seems appropriate for Halloween. I took these first 4 pictures in Flagstaff, AZ in the parking lot of the Honda dealer after coming from the Glamis dunes. This is what happened within 2 days of riding (and crashing) the dunes. Now my engine is in need of some serious love. I haven't opened it up yet to take a look, but it smokes when I rev it (not a big surprise considering how much sand it ate). This is a UNI filter. There was plenty of sand on the metal mesh filter frame, indicating to me that the sand made it through the foam. What do you guys think about this?

Yes, that's sand in the carb. It was everywhere except the float bowl- on top of the diaphragm, in the choke port, everywhere. So sad... the bike was in mint condition before the dunes.

At least it was fun, although extremely difficult- this is the bowl section above Oldsmobile Hill:

This is the scariest damn thing I have seen all night! It almost looks like you were throwing handfuls of sand inside the airbox as you were riding

It looks like you have some sealing issues around the edges. I don't think even a Uni that's not oiled properly would let this much in. On my Uni, I have noticed some fine dust residue on the plastic after the filter. I use plenty of oil on the foam, as well as a fairly thick bead of grease on the edge. Kind of makes me wonder if the design is all that great. I am going to stick with Uni for now, but watch it closely. At least with OEM, you know the seal is good.

Bbasso · 10-31-2011, 09:27 PM

DAAANG,

While it's polite and nice to let them by... IT"S A RACE! if they can't pass you becaue the piggy is too big or slow or both then use that to your advantage

Looks like you had a blast.

Bbasso · 10-31-2011, 09:30 PM

with the foam filters you NEED to put a really thick layer of grease on the sealing edge of the foam where it meets the airbox. the only way to stop dirt penetration.

But too late for that.
Clean up everything and see what the results are by riding. if the motor goes to hell, time to call CW.

Bbasso · 10-31-2011, 09:33 PM

Oh yeah on a sad note...
Looks like I have a solid buyer coming tomorrow. Sad and happy at the same time, sad my baby is going happy I can pay the bills...
He's even offered my asking price!
crossing my fingers.

flyingwombat · 10-31-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaho_XR

This is the scariest damn thing I have seen all night! It almost looks like you were throwing handfuls of sand inside the airbox as you were riding

It looks like you have some sealing issues around the edges. I don't think even a Uni that's not oiled properly would let this much in. On my Uni, I have noticed some fine dust residue on the plastic after the filter. I use plenty of oil on the foam, as well as a fairly thick bead of grease on the edge. Kind of makes me wonder if the design is all that great. I am going to stick with Uni for now, but watch it closely. At least with OEM, you know the seal is good.

Yeah, it seems like the sealing surface leaked but also the sand made it through the foam. I don't know how all that sand got in there... maybe it happened when I dumped it. Maybe I didn't have enough oil on it, obviously I didn't check it soon enough, but I never would have guessed that it was caked up like that in 2 days. The first time I crashed the bike was at Glamis.

flyingwombat · 10-31-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bbasso

with the foam filters you NEED to put a really thick layer of grease on the sealing edge of the foam where it meets the airbox. the only way to stop dirt penetration.

But too late for that.
Clean up everything and see what the results are by riding. if the motor goes to hell, time to call CW.

Yes, I think that is another area where I screwed up with too little grease.

After cleaning the sand out of the intake tract and changing the oil and filter in Flagstaff, I rode the bike in Moab and it was ok with the exception of smoke at high RPMs. After about a week, it started acting funny (wouldn't run without some choke) and I stopped using the bike. I think there's still some sand in the carb somewhere clogging something. I've been busy since I got back so haven't torn into it.

DAAANG · 10-31-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bbasso

DAAANG,

While it's polite and nice to let them by... IT"S A RACE! if they can't pass you becaue the piggy is too big or slow or both then use that to your advantage

Looks like you had a blast.

One thing Ive learned in racing (motos Im slow, cars Im fast) is that there are three groups of people. One group that is racing, one group that is in the way, and one that REALLY knows their role.

I was trying to know my role lol.

Idaho_XR · 10-31-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DAAANG

Thanks for the laughs gentlemen. I was technically on knobbies but not good ones for this kinda of thing. Ive got the Michelin TE60 something or others that have maybe 30% knob left. It really was the hardest thing Ive ever done. I ended up completing 1 full lap. Took me about 50 minutes to do 6 miles. Id go about 2 blocks and have to stop for water, leg stretches, and just take a rest. My body was in so much pain. The bike held up great. Couple scratches on the bark busters but other than that the pig held his own I guess. Planning another race next weekend but I wont be riding big red

Im going to take my XT350 out there with full dirt knobbies. I think between the weight, shorter bar length and just overall size, Ill have a much better shot completing 2 laps

Screw the XT350. Stick with the XR and learn how to manhandle that pig. The world needs another Scott Summers!

DAAANG · 10-31-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaho_XR

Screw the XT350. Stick with the XR and learn how to manhandle that pig. The world needs another Scott Summers!

If I wasnt so out of shape I might actually keep trying the XR, but at 220lbs with little to no daily exercise, I need a machine thats not going to wear me down so quickly.

Idaho_XR · 10-31-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DAAANG

If I wasnt so out of shape I might actually keep trying the XR, but at 220lbs with little to no daily exercise, I need a machine thats not going to wear me down so quickly.

I love the fact that you actually gave it go! Something I would probably never have attempted as I am in similar shape. It looked like a lot of fun though while it lasted! For some reason it brought back memories of Scott Summers smoking all the two strokes back in the day.

AlpinaE24 · 10-31-2011, 10:37 PM

Been making some very solid progress on my '94

609 Fat Bars and risers
JT 14t front Renthal ultralight 47 rear - DID ERV2 chain
Cleaned and ready to rock stock carb, currently running 68l/180 way fat on the pilot but it was better then the stock 50 in the bike when i got it..
Acerbis SOB to fit big tank
Super Blue Brake Fluid
All rear suspenion bearings cleaned and repacked with moly
New front fork seals and dust seals
New rear wheel bearings
Oil Change, Valve Adjustment, clean K&N
New rear fender, new front on order
Custom XRs only XRR skidplate that I'm gonna make some mounts for
Also have some Moose bark busters hiding in my garage somewhere..and I need a new seat cover

Lots of work into her thus far, runs strong as hell and fires on the first crank. The oil that came out of the front forks was nasty, so I refilled them with ATF and will be flushing them again this week when my trick motion pro fork oil tool comes in. I've been reading a lot about different oil weights, spring spacers, and heavier springs. What do you guys think? I'm thinking about running 10wt at about 130mm with some cut stock springs and a PVC spacer...with gear I'm around 190 so I think that should be good...

Reminding me of my XRR...

beechum1 · 10-31-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DAAANG

If I wasnt so out of shape I might actually keep trying the XR, but at 220lbs with little to no daily exercise, I need a machine thats not going to wear me down so quickly.

you mean.... like a treadmill??

DAAANG · 10-31-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaho_XR

I love the fact that you actually gave it go! Something I would probably never have attempted as I am in similar shape. It looked like a lot of fun though while it lasted! For some reason it brought back memories of Scott Summers smoking all the two strokes back in the day.

Thanks man. Im one of those dudes that just goes for it. Even if itll be embarrassing or potentially painful. I figure if it wont kill me and will give me a few laughs, then its worth a shot.

cyclewizard · 11-01-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Idaho_XR

Screw the XT350. Stick with the XR and learn how to manhandle that pig. The world needs another Scott Summers!

I wouldn't want to wrestle that big guy.

sc-razor · 11-01-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by beechum1

you mean.... like a treadmill??

Zing!!!!!!!!!!!

10-31-2011, 10:37 PM	#34076
AlpinaE24 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Oddometer: 406	Been making some very solid progress on my '94 609 Fat Bars and risers JT 14t front Renthal ultralight 47 rear - DID ERV2 chain Cleaned and ready to rock stock carb, currently running 68l/180 way fat on the pilot but it was better then the stock 50 in the bike when i got it.. Acerbis SOB to fit big tank Super Blue Brake Fluid All rear suspenion bearings cleaned and repacked with moly New front fork seals and dust seals New rear wheel bearings Oil Change, Valve Adjustment, clean K&N New rear fender, new front on order Custom XRs only XRR skidplate that I'm gonna make some mounts for Also have some Moose bark busters hiding in my garage somewhere..and I need a new seat cover Lots of work into her thus far, runs strong as hell and fires on the first crank. The oil that came out of the front forks was nasty, so I refilled them with ATF and will be flushing them again this week when my trick motion pro fork oil tool comes in. I've been reading a lot about different oil weights, spring spacers, and heavier springs. What do you guys think? I'm thinking about running 10wt at about 130mm with some cut stock springs and a PVC spacer...with gear I'm around 190 so I think that should be good... Reminding me of my XRR... __________________ 1994 XR650L - not stock 2000 XR650R - Plated - Sold 2000 XR650R - Sold 2000 XR600R - Sold

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10-31-2011, 09:27 PM	#34067
Bbasso Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Location: South Carolina! Oddometer: 1,623	DAAANG, While it's polite and nice to let them by... IT"S A RACE! if they can't pass you becaue the piggy is too big or slow or both then use that to your advantage Looks like you had a blast.

10-31-2011, 09:30 PM	#34068
Bbasso Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Location: South Carolina! Oddometer: 1,623	with the foam filters you NEED to put a really thick layer of grease on the sealing edge of the foam where it meets the airbox. the only way to stop dirt penetration. But too late for that. Clean up everything and see what the results are by riding. if the motor goes to hell, time to call CW.

10-31-2011, 09:33 PM	#34069
Bbasso Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Location: South Carolina! Oddometer: 1,623	Oh yeah on a sad note... Looks like I have a solid buyer coming tomorrow. Sad and happy at the same time, sad my baby is going happy I can pay the bills... He's even offered my asking price! crossing my fingers.