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Old 11-11-2012, 09:40 AM   #48826
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I will be installing my Symtec Grip heaters right after breakfast.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:43 AM   #48827
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Can the stock stator handle my gerbings heated liner and gloves?
I believe my liner is 71W and not sure of the gloves. If i must i just will ride with only liner, or only gloves.
PLEASE HELP AND ADVISE US WHAT THE STOCK STATOR IS CAPEABLE OF.
this is not a heated grip ?/disscusion
Thanks in advance
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John the stock stator output is 186w@5,000 RPMs. Whether or not it will run both I'm not sure. There are many variables such as, how often you stop and start, how muck in traffic riding your are doing, head light usage, condition of battery etc. For me, I can always stay warm with proper layering my upper body, but that's just not possible with my hands. That said, I can see a heated vest as being yummy. What I would do is install the heated grips, run your vest and then just stop on top of a hill until you get a feel for how it works
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:59 AM   #48828
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Thanks Mendo for the specs.
I think i'll JUST GO FOR IT.
Btw . Jmo- heated gloves work better than grips.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:10 AM   #48829
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Can the stock stator handle my gerbings heated liner and gloves?
I believe my liner is 71W and not sure of the gloves. If i must i just will ride with only liner, or only gloves.
PLEASE HELP AND ADVISE US WHAT THE STOCK STATOR IS CAPEABLE OF.
this is not a heated grip ?/disscusion
Thanks in advance
John
I didn't think you California guys would need heated gear

Stock:
Alternator output is 188W
The headlight is 55W low, 60W high.
Taillight is 8.3W, brake light is 26.9W.
Turn signals are 26.9 watt each.
Instrument light is 3.4W.
High beam indicator is 1.7W

I have a Warm and Safe brand heated liner that uses 7.5A of power. At 13V that's near 95W. I have a LED voltmeter and it blinks with the pulses from the liner controller when I'm running down the road telling me that if I sat at idle for very long I'd be dead. I've run the liner all day turning it off when at stop lights or such with no problems. I'd be skeptical of gloves, grip heaters and a liner. I'd not do it without a voltmeter to tell me what was going on.

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Old 11-11-2012, 10:10 AM   #48830
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i would like to see how you guys are installing these grip heaters!
some on ebay show them taped on the outside of the grip?
i wanna buy a set, i rode with a set of gerbings heated by battery gloves this weekend and they did save the day but i didnt like all the bulk of them, the battery was hard to turn up/on while riding and when the batterys are done youll be cold again.
also how much voltage do the grip heaters draw, tusk ones didnt say? on rmatv
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:26 AM   #48831
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Seat heating

My BMW has grip heaters and seat heaters.
Has any body seen seat heater kits?
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:27 AM   #48832
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I think I got the last 2 sets. I tried to add 3 an only got two. But they're purchased. Thanks spud!!!
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:31 AM   #48833
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My BMW has grip heaters and seat heaters.
Has any body seen seat heater kits?
There are seat heater kits out there... I have one unused, new in a box somewhere. I am thing CW said it was too wide for the "L" seat with the seat concepts foam and cover so he sent it bac. I'll see if can dig it up and see how wide it is and se if it can be cut or fit on the "L" someway
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:34 AM   #48834
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i grabbed a set of heated grips from cycle gear last year for 20 bucks, they are the trackside brand but still working great. if they ever go bad just exchange them with the cycle gear warranty.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:43 AM   #48835
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I think I got the last 2 sets. I tried to add 3 an only got two. But they're purchased. Thanks spud!!!
They have plenty. I just ordered a set and they showed that they had more.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #48836
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okay, i've owned three other pigs and just can't stay away from them. found one on cl about ten days ago.i bought it so cheap i just couln't pass it up.
the original owner was selling it, 600 miles, been sitting in his dads garage. they actually re-roofed the garage with the poor bike sitting beneath. according to the p.o., his pop tried to take it out for a ride while, ahem, more than slightly inebriated. fell over in the driveway (thank god). well the gear shift lever put a crack in the left crankcase cover which was jb welded and holding nicely. also needed a battery, carb clean, brake flush, oil/filter, chain adjustment and lube, tires properly inflated, and a good douche/detail. i've put a couple of hundred miles on it in the past few days and its running great. gonna eighty six the smog stuff and do the dave carb mods which i've done on the others.

got my replacement left crankcase cover and gasket yesterday in the mail. any tips to getting it off and on smoothly? anything to watch out for?
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #48837
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i grabbed a set of heated grips from cycle gear last year for 20 bucks, they are the trackside brand but still working great. if they ever go bad just exchange them with the cycle gear warranty.
I looked at CycleGear. I think they were closer to $40 in the local store.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #48838
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Beechum what seat do you have??
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:55 AM   #48839
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Can the stock stator handle my gerbings heated liner and gloves?
I believe my liner is 71W and not sure of the gloves. If i must i just will ride with only liner, or only gloves.
PLEASE HELP AND ADVISE US WHAT THE STOCK STATOR IS CAPEABLE OF.
this is not a heated grip ?/disscusion
Thanks in advance
John

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Originally Posted by Sourjon View Post
I didn't think you California guys would need heated gear

Stock:
Alternator output is 188W
The headlight is 55W low, 60W high.
Taillight is 8.3W, brake light is 26.9W.
Turn signals are 26.9 watt each.
Instrument light is 3.4W.
High beam indicator is 1.7W

I have a Warm and Safe brand heated liner that uses 7.5A of power. At 13V that's near 95W. I have a LED voltmeter and it blinks with the pulses from the liner controller when I'm running down the road telling me that if I sat at idle for very long I'd be dead. I've run the liner all day turning it off when at stop lights or such with no problems. I'd be skeptical of gloves, grip heaters and a liner. I'd not do it without a voltmeter to tell me what was going on.

Pricey but good



John

A bit more expensive option, but easier in my opinion is the hot grips option.



Here is there website: http://www.HotGrips.com/

Also as far as the voltmeter goes..... Some people like the light indicator volt meter like above. I prefer to have a bit more accurate information, so I go with a digital voltmeter. I put some car tint over the face of it to make the screen darker when I don't have it running. I also added an on/off switch, and made my own custom bracket for the mounting, which people say looks factory. As long as its above 12.6 the battery is charging. This takes the whole guess work out of figuring out numbers. Make your best guess before hooking stuff up, and fine tune it when riding. If you're dropping too low, turn something off or down. When I'm riding in the mountains the number always fluctuates when I have stuff on. When I'm sitting at a light its down low in the 12.3 range, but as soon as I start back up it starts charging. As long as you keep it charging the majority of the time, you're good. Even when riding around town and running my 90watt jacket, I get home and the battery reads ~12.8 when the bike is off.

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Old 11-11-2012, 11:08 AM   #48840
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got my replacement left crankcase cover and gasket yesterday in the mail. any tips to getting it off and on smoothly? anything to watch out for?
thanks
A sharp razorblade, gasket remover, patience, determination and beer will get the cover off. Just make sure to get all the old gasket off the engine or it could leak. You'll need some thread lock for the stator inside the cover and some Hondabond to seal the wires where they come out of the engine.

PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE WASHERS WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE STARTER REDUCTION GEARS. One washer out of place can make the gears bind up and make starting impossible leading you down a very long road of troubleshooting. Ask me how I know

You'll also need the starter reduction gear gasket, but if you don't have one and don't want to wait they are easy to cut out of gasket material you can get at an autoparts store.

....and don't forget about the little damn rubber piece that goes under the starter when you put it back together either...


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