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Old 11-11-2012, 10:33 PM   #48886
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Help with starting issue

Rode my 2004 XR650L (537 Original Miles) last weekend on a mix of trails and pavement. It ran great with no issues and averaged 42 MPG on the 135 mile ride. Went to start it yesterday and it briefly fired up and then died. Would not restart after many attempts. New battery last month. Switched out the CDI fwith a factory new unit, have good spark but will not start. Checked fuel flow and carb is not plugged. Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station. I did notice the valve rockers were all well oiled and not binding during cranking; however, the right front valve taps twice during it's cycle and the other valves only tap once. Is this an important clue?

Have done Dave's mods, and the Uni filter is clean and oiled. Anybody have any ideas? This bike is like new and has been kept in a temperature controlled shop since I bought it new in '05. Haven't had a chance to ride much due to work. I just bid a job that starts in December and goes through March so no riding during that period. Would like to ride a little more before kicking off the project.

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Old 11-11-2012, 10:49 PM   #48887
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Rode my 2004 XR650L (537 Original Miles) last weekend on a mix of trails and pavement. It ran great with no issues and averaged 42 MPG on the 135 mile ride. Went to start it yesterday and it briefly fired up and then died. Would not restart after many attempts. New battery last month. Switched out the CDI fwith a factory new unit, have good spark but will not start. Checked fuel flow and carb is not plugged. Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station. I did notice the valve rockers were all well oiled and not binding during cranking; however, the right front valve taps twice during it's cycle and the other valves only tap once. Is this an important clue?

Have done Dave's mods, and the Uni filter is clean and oiled. Anybody have any ideas? This bike is like new and has been kept in a temperature controlled shop since I bought it new in '05. Haven't had a chance to ride much due to work. I just bid a job that starts in December and goes through March so no riding during that period. Would like to ride a little more before kicking off the project.

Thanks for your ideas.
If you have that low miles on a 04. It could be a dirty or gummed up carb. Take it out and clean it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:52 PM   #48888
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try a burst of starting fluid. if its fires its a fuel problem
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:59 AM   #48889
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Ouch!!!

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Working on whoops when this happened. Not surprised, but the last 10 miles on the trail and the other 20 on the street were a bit nerve racking. The only thing holding it on was the battery bracket and one of the seat bolts.



Who's making and selling the gussets ? I don't have time before I move to make them myself I don't think.
It looks like you pushed the top of your tank in too.....plus the subframes bent up pretty healthy. You musta really flipped that poor bike good. hope you're ok
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:44 AM   #48890
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Take 5 minutes and by-pass that fucker.... Millions of miles have been ridden on these motors with no cooler at all. Your ambient temps are ok, not like racing in Baja in August. Keep your ride of a lifetime going and forget about the cooler. I'm WAY jealous of your ride, BTW!!!!

EDIT: Man your in mexico.... Zip tye, wire tie, or use a coat hanger inside a piece of fuel line. Wrap it all the way around the cooler and tie it off to the cooler frame. Improvise... Maxicanize!!!!! Just keep on riding!
Yep xrl's are wonderfully simple, hassle free low maintainence machines, perfect for trips like you're taking. But bolting on complexity adding additions that arent really needed just defeats the purpose. Take that pita tiny little oil cooler off of there and make your adventure that much simpler. Like Wattner said simplify your ride and maximize your pleasure
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:00 AM   #48891
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Rode my 2004 XR650L (537 Original Miles) last weekend on a mix of trails and pavement. It ran great with no issues and averaged 42 MPG on the 135 mile ride. Went to start it yesterday and it briefly fired up and then died. Would not restart after many attempts. New battery last month. Switched out the CDI fwith a factory new unit, have good spark but will not start. Checked fuel flow and carb is not plugged. Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station. I did notice the valve rockers were all well oiled and not binding during cranking; however, the right front valve taps twice during it's cycle and the other valves only tap once. Is this an important clue?

Have done Dave's mods, and the Uni filter is clean and oiled. Anybody have any ideas? This bike is like new and has been kept in a temperature controlled shop since I bought it new in '05. Haven't had a chance to ride much due to work. I just bid a job that starts in December and goes through March so no riding during that period. Would like to ride a little more before kicking off the project.

Thanks for your ideas.
Like somebody else said you need to clean the carb.....carbs don't like to sit, and yours has been sitting alot. As little as you ride, you need to shut off the fuel while the bike is running and run the carb dry when you park it. Or drain the carb float bowl. And definately run SeaFoam or another good fuel stabilizer/carb cleaner with your fuel.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:26 AM   #48892
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Rode my 2004 XR650L (537 Original Miles) last weekend on a mix of trails and pavement. It ran great with no issues and averaged 42 MPG on the 135 mile ride. Went to start it yesterday and it briefly fired up and then died. Would not restart after many attempts. New battery last month. Switched out the CDI fwith a factory new unit, have good spark but will not start. Checked fuel flow and carb is not plugged. Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station. I did notice the valve rockers were all well oiled and not binding during cranking; however, the right front valve taps twice during it's cycle and the other valves only tap once. Is this an important clue?

Have done Dave's mods, and the Uni filter is clean and oiled. Anybody have any ideas? This bike is like new and has been kept in a temperature controlled shop since I bought it new in '05. Haven't had a chance to ride much due to work. I just bid a job that starts in December and goes through March so no riding during that period. Would like to ride a little more before kicking off the project.

Thanks for your ideas.
Sounds like the kill switch on the handlebars... Turn it off and on a couple of times, and when you turn it on for the final time, make sure it's pushed way down. These damn switches have stranded a few (me included more than once) If that's it, you can disassemble, clean the contacts with emory cloth, add a little electric grease and be good to go.

Best of luck!
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:26 AM   #48893
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Could be!

Bad gas.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:44 AM   #48894
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Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station.

Thanks for your ideas.

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:38 AM   #48895
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It looks like you pushed the top of your tank in too.....plus the subframes bent up pretty healthy. You musta really flipped that poor bike good. hope you're ok
Nah, just riding along. The rear subframe is broken off. The only thing keeping it on the whole ride was the battery box bracket and a seat pan bolt. I'm going to dowel the frame a few inches in each direction, drilling holes in the existing frame every 1/2", spot weld the dowel in those holes and around the crack until I can get up to cutout the gussets and weld them on.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:44 AM   #48896
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Rode my 2004 XR650L (537 Original Miles) last weekend on a mix of trails and pavement. It ran great with no issues and averaged 42 MPG on the 135 mile ride. Went to start it yesterday and it briefly fired up and then died. Would not restart after many attempts. New battery last month. Switched out the CDI fwith a factory new unit, have good spark but will not start. Checked fuel flow and carb is not plugged. Gasoline in tank is fresh from the Shell station. I did notice the valve rockers were all well oiled and not binding during cranking; however, the right front valve taps twice during it's cycle and the other valves only tap once. Is this an important clue?

Have done Dave's mods, and the Uni filter is clean and oiled. Anybody have any ideas? This bike is like new and has been kept in a temperature controlled shop since I bought it new in '05. Haven't had a chance to ride much due to work. I just bid a job that starts in December and goes through March so no riding during that period. Would like to ride a little more before kicking off the project.

Thanks for your ideas.
So you adjusted the valves? If so from your description the right front exhaust valve was adjusted incorrectly. You must rotate nthe engine past TDC to get the decompression cam that holds that valve open during starting to fall out. Run the engine around to about 10 deg ATDC and re check the valve clearance.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:53 AM   #48897
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Yeah, these are pretty cheap and will heat your seat up pretty nicely:



You can get them here.
Tell me, have you ever seen a Taco Bell Taco that looked anything like these in the photo above? I didn't thionk so. You f__Ken yankees. Posting Taco Bell for something that will light your a__ on fire. You don't EVEN know what Mexician Food is all about. Here's a little lunch the gals in the office whiped up.

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:27 AM   #48898
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I just installed a Tusk Grip Heater Kit, which was an excellent bargain at $20. However, I just checked the RM ATV/MC website, and the Tusk Grip Heater Kit is now on sale for $9.99! Trust me, you can't go wrong at that price.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...rip+heater+kit





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Bummer, I had to work yesterday and when I went to RM's website the deal was over. Not that $19 is bad, but $9 is better. Let me know if you see it come back to life. I need at least a couple sets.

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:37 AM   #48899
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Tell me, have you ever seen a Taco Bell Taco that looked anything like these in the photo above? I didn't thionk so. You f__Ken yankees. Posting Taco Bell for something that will light your a__ on fire. You don't EVEN know what Mexician Food is all about. Here's a little lunch the gals in the office whiped up.


Very true. Taco Bell doesn't serve REAL mexican food. Best I ever had was at an old house in Yuma, AZ that had been converted to a restaurant.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:06 AM   #48900
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Tell me, have you ever seen a Taco Bell Taco that looked anything like these in the photo above? I didn't thionk so. You f__Ken yankees. Posting Taco Bell for something that will light your a__ on fire. You don't EVEN know what Mexician Food is all about. Here's a little lunch the gals in the office whiped up.

I do miss Texas for the food. The best Mexican food in San Anton was in which ever little dive you stumbled into. You couldn't hardly go wrong.
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