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Old 01-19-2013, 10:26 AM   #51916
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
The low weight and small size of the lithium is attractive ,but they also die with no warning. Lead acid gets weak before dying altogether.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:38 AM   #51917
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Yuasa batteries are top quality......can`t go wrong with them,i`ve seen them last 8+ years.........

Lithium Ion batteries do not like cold.........you have to repeatedly try starting your bike so the battery warms up before it puts out decent CCA...

I`m afraid of the Shorai batteries,,lokk like cheap junk.......they work well for some,,others have sent them back repeatedly because they failed..

If,and that`s a big IF..........i was buying a lithium battery i`d try the Anti-Gravity brand.....at least it`s not offshore crap..better warranty..

But,,if you ride in cold weather,,stay with a wet battery,,better performance in the cold..

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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:04 AM   #51918
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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
Any idea if the Anti-gravity 8-cell might be better in the cold?

Temps around here are usually only below freezing at night for a couple weeks a year.
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figures...my stud was rusty I played with my nuts a little and it cranked right over
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #51919
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Any idea if the Anti-gravity 8-cell might be better in the cold?

Temps around here are usually only below freezing at night for a couple weeks a year.
Same deal.all the Lithium batteries i know of suck in cold temps,

Lighter than OE..........yes.......dependable..sometimes......g ood in cold weather..NO...

I`m in no rush to buy something that will die if a paristic drain occurs...voids warranty.........i still don`t see them as an option yet..

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Old 01-19-2013, 11:26 AM   #51920
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I recently went from 15/45 to 15/48, and honestly I didn't notice as much of a difference as I thought there would be. I can feel that it pulls a little better, but cruising speed/rpm didn't really change very much.

I might try out a 14 front this summer when I hit the trails.
I went from stock 15/45 to 14/45, which is pretty close to your change, and at my elevation (5000ft) I noticed a nice difference. It brought 5th gear down enough to pull much better, and gave me much more snap in the other gears, plus it made 2nd way more usable in the dirt. Like you said I can still cruise 70+ no problem tho......I like this gearing, nice compromise for the street and dirt
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:35 AM   #51921
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I went from stock 15/45 to 14/45, which is pretty close to your change, and at my elevation (5000ft) I noticed a nice difference. It brought 5th gear down enough to pull much better, and gave me much more snap in the other gears, plus it made 2nd way more usable in the dirt. Like you said I can still cruise 70+ no problem tho......I like this gearing, nice compromise for the street and dirt
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:36 AM   #51922
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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
Kick start??
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:04 PM   #51923
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Kick start??
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/734...50l-heres-how/
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:55 PM   #51924
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Glad to hear your recovery is going well! I won't hold the new bike against you. Looks like fun!
Absolutely agree. That header and those lights are gorgeous. We all wish you well with this endeavor--it is surely a boost to your morale, and will speed your recovery. I suspect that you will heal, and then spend a few years riding the snot out of this 2 stroke. Eventually you will calm down, and come back.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:10 PM   #51925
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
I always keep my bikes plugged into a battery tender when parked.....I get around 10 years out of my lead acid batteries. I use the $21 Schumacher motorcycle specific 1.5 amp smart charger/maintainers from Wal-Mart...they work awesome, and I haven't had one quit yet Plus they more than pay for themselves by keeping a single battery alive for 10 years
If saving 4 1/2 lbs of weight isn't that important to you, a 60 buck agm lead-acid battery with a tender will last you forever. If you want to save the 4 1/2 lbs, you can spend 106-120 I believe for a Shoria lithium.....although I've heard they can have some quality issues. Or you can pay 150-up for some of the other brands. I opted for the lead acid agm because I've had such good luck with them, and 4 1/2 lbs didn't matter to me. Plus the lithiums don't like cold, where a well-charged lead-acid agm will fire up reliably in all conditions.

I am going to try a lithium down the road tho, when the prices come down some more and the technology goes up
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:20 PM   #51926
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
If you are running heated gear, or a lot of other accesories, you should stick with a lead-acid battery. Motocross manufactures batteries for Yuasu. I bought a Motocross battery for my 200cc trail bike, and it has performed flawlessly. Therefore, I encourage you to check out the Motocross YTX9-BS battery, which costs $65.

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...motocross.html



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Old 01-19-2013, 01:28 PM   #51927
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:46 PM   #51928
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I went from stock 15/45 to 14/45, which is pretty close to your change, and at my elevation (5000ft) I noticed a nice difference. It brought 5th gear down enough to pull much better, and gave me much more snap in the other gears, plus it made 2nd way more usable in the dirt. Like you said I can still cruise 70+ no problem tho......I like this gearing, nice compromise for the street and dirt
I live at 5550, and have used the above combos plus 14/18, and finally a 13/50. I ride mostly forest service roads and jeep trails, with a little single track, and ocaisonal slab thrown in. With the NX 2nd gear, 13/50 is the best for my riding style, and I kept all the other sprockets and chains so I have a setup for most rides. 13/50 is ok for 2 lane pavement, but not much faster.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:49 PM   #51929
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Any idea if the Anti-gravity 8-cell might be better in the cold?

Temps around here are usually only below freezing at night for a couple weeks a year.
Cold cranking amps (CCA) is the most important factor to consider when you want to start your bike in the winter. If you plan to relocate your battery on top of the air box, under the saddle, I recommend the Antigravity 8-Cell battery.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FYw-MgodbgcAmw



This battery is rated at 300 pulse cranking amps, and 240 CCA. If you have a stock engine, I'm sure this battery will easily start your bike in a Corvalis winter.

My Shora LFX09A2-BS12 battery is rated at 135 CCA, and it has flawlessly started my stock engine for the last 30,000 miles. However, I only ride when the temperature is above freezing, and the roads are clear and dry. I guess I was lucky, and got a good Shorai battery.

The Antigravity batteries have much stronger terminals than the Shorai batteries. The Antigravity batteries also have higher CCA ratings than the Shorai batteries. In addition, the Antigravity batteries have survived some harsh testing which has destroyed the Shorai batteries.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770364

If you want to save weight, but keep the stock battery box, I recommend the Antigravity, OEM, direct replacement battery. The Antigravity YTZ10S-8 battery will fit perfectly in the stock battery box without requiring any foam shims, which merely add weight.

http://antigravitybatteries.com/?page_id=2267



If you aren't worried about weight, get a lead-acid, AGM battery. These batteries are inexpensive, will better support heated gear, and will last a very long time.

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Old 01-19-2013, 02:23 PM   #51930
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I live at 5550, and have used the above combos plus 14/18, and finally a 13/50. I ride mostly forest service roads and jeep trails, with a little single track, and ocaisonal slab thrown in. With the NX 2nd gear, 13/50 is the best for my riding style, and I kept all the other sprockets and chains so I have a setup for most rides. 13/50 is ok for 2 lane pavement, but not much faster.
I don't know how you got out of your driveway with a 14/18
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