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Old 07-16-2009, 07:29 AM   #7516
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WOW that sounds just like the XRR
What is going on with the XRR? does anyone know if they are going to be bringing it back??

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Old 07-16-2009, 07:39 AM   #7517
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What is going on with the XRR? does anyone know if they are going to be bringing it back??

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No idea.

I've said it many times before....why the heck didn't Honda put the magic button on the XRR, de-tune the motor a tad and call it their new DS bike

As much as I love my XRL....I'd buy one of those.
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:57 AM   #7518
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No idea.

I've said it many times before....why the heck didn't Honda put the magic button on the XRR, de-tune the motor a tad and call it their new DS bike

As much as I love my XRL....I'd buy one of those.
I know... I would be on that like a Fat kid on a Twinky!!
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:07 AM   #7519
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What is going on with the XRR? does anyone know if they are going to be bringing it back??

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XR650R is dead, the last year for production was 07.
The 450x is the new desert racer for Honda.
Honda closed the plant here in the US that the XRR was being built in.

I am torn between staying oil cooled and the simplicity that goes with it, Or water cooled and the weight loss that goes with it.

A water cooled engine can be built to tighter tolerances, and tighter timing so it can produce higher horse power. Don't increase the compression, The L can run on horrible gas that is a benefit.

6 speed transmission Would be a huge gain.

At least change second gear back to the second the NX used. Get rid of the huge gear jump between first and second.

Suspension update would be nice. Keep the ground clearance.

Change the frame so the foot pegs can be lowered or raised for the height of a person.

Fuel injection would be a bonus, but the thing about a carb they suck but you can normally make one work even if its is badly; you can limp home.
You loose your fuel pump. I hope you really enjoy that walk in you mx boots while pushing your bike.

Possibly move the battery in to the center of the bike.

loose 50 lbs? Awesome.

I saw a XR650R frame the other day. It got me thinking. They have the oil in the frame just like a L dose. Wonder if you could squeeze the L engine in a R frame, Ktm swing arm, crf forks, add a oil cooler where the radiators go? Hmmm..
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:00 AM   #7520
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I'm an airhead lover, but I really don't see a significant (meaningful) reliability decrease due to water cooling, for most people.

Personaly, I crash through the brush, push down dead trees, go through close, tight pine stands where the dead branches are stabbing the hell outta me and the bike (one broke my chest protector shoulder guard sunday), so I surmise I might puncture a radiator or rip off a hose, but short of stuff like that I think it's hard to break anything.


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Old 07-16-2009, 10:03 AM   #7521
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im poor so i have to modify and switch one bike.i get it all done then i get tired of it after awhile so i change it up so i think i have a new bike!
You need to develop a modular seat/tank/sideplate system where all come off together and can be swapped quickly...

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Old 07-16-2009, 11:01 AM   #7522
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Hey Kubiak you anywhere around Louisville, Ky
Nah, he lives in California.
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:08 PM   #7523
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Bolt Head Sizes

I went to a local bolt specialty store today to get a replacement bolt for the one that fell off my exhaust. I told him I wanted the head to be either 12 or 14 mm. He said what you're describing is an automotive bolt. We only sell construction bolts. Go figure why Lowes has bolt heads that are in the odd numbers.
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:16 PM   #7524
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I went to a local bolt specialty store today to get a replacement bolt for the one that fell off my exhaust. I told him I wanted the head to be either 12 or 14 mm. He said what you're describing is an automotive bolt. We only sell construction bolts. Go figure why Lowes has bolt heads that are in the odd numbers.
What bolt fell out? I noticed that mine was missing where it attaches to the fram near the rear brake reservoir.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:46 PM   #7525
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What bolt fell out? I noticed that mine was missing where it attaches to the fram near the rear brake reservoir.
#14 in the diagram

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Old 07-16-2009, 03:25 PM   #7526
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#14 in the diagram
That is fairly common. I lost mine twice. Make sure when you replace it you use the correct bolt (right material) otherwise you will strip the threads...

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Old 07-16-2009, 03:33 PM   #7527
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I went to a local bolt specialty store today to get a replacement bolt for the one that fell off my exhaust. I told him I wanted the head to be either 12 or 14 mm. He said what you're describing is an automotive bolt. We only sell construction bolts. Go figure why Lowes has bolt heads that are in the odd numbers.
I find the best selection of bolts at Ace Hardware.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:55 PM   #7528
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Bolt

That bolt is an 8x44mm. Most 8mm fasteners you find will have a 13mm head instead of the 12mm that comes on the bike.
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Old 07-16-2009, 05:57 PM   #7529
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Clutch?

Ok, I cleaned, checked and looked it over. And the clutch is still stiff, and I can't stand it. So has anyone used one of these?

http://www.mooseracing.com/showImage...lsize&rank=100

Or is there a way to make it hydraulic?

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Old 07-16-2009, 07:17 PM   #7530
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Is your cable straight and not binding? Sometimes it looks straight but where the cable goes into the housing, there is a bind. Also, I take a pair of channel locks and bend the bottom bracket to have the cable perfectly in the center of the housing. Little things that make the difference! I use one of these:http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...ategory/cable/

clean the cable with:http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/pr...talogId=110517

Then lube with:http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/pr...segment=badger


Also, I extended the arm at the case by 3/8" and I have really easy, smooth action with even heavy springs... I would look at the cable binding and lube it up at least. Truly makes a difference.

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