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Old 12-13-2008, 09:10 AM   #1
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Honda XR (250, 400, 600, 650) R

Hello,

After many hours checking this forum I narrowed my interests to the bikes mentionned in the title.

One thing though I am not quite sure about is how those bikes differ from each other (except for the obvious differences in cc)??

Are they all suitable for trail riding long distances for instance (my personnal interest)?
The 600/650 have many followers in the ADV community but what about the 400 and 250 then?

Thanks for sharing
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:46 AM   #2
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The smaller two are great trailbikes, and the XR400 might be suitable for some two-lane travel for you. It was a bit small for me. I did about 1,100 miles in Mexico on my plated XR400. It was great offroad, yet not really cut out for much above 60-65mph sustained on hwy sections.
That's pretty much why my 2nd XR600 got built.

For just extended trail rides, if you want a smaller bike for singletrack and stuff, I'd take any of the XR Hondas.

Between other dirtbikes, I've owned an '82 XR500, '88 XR600, '01 XR650R, '96XR400, and this '92 XR600. I contemplated another XR650R, but I really felt like going old school and simple. That and the 650R subframe isn't as stout as it could be.
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:16 PM   #3
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Blake, It's a lot of XR's that you owned !! thanks for the advice.
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:35 PM   #4
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I currently have an XR 650R and an XR 400. I had an '89 XR 600 back in the day and I've spent a decent amount of time on the 250. They are all great trail bikes for their intended purposes.

By "trail riding for long distance" do you mean on single track or really rough lower speed jeep road? If so, either the 250 or the 400 work the best for that. For faster stuff, jeep road, 5th gear pinned sandwash etc., you'll want the bigger bikes. But they are heavier and a little more work on the single track. Personally I think my old 600 was better at the tight stuff than my current 650, if you need one bike for everything. But the 650 does have a 4.6 gallon tank and when that fuel gets sloshing around it feels heavier.

Most of my dual sporting is on old rough jeep roads and single track now a days, so for me the XR 400 is a better do it all bike. So I'm going to sell the 650 and keep the 400. I also like that the 400 doesn't have radiators to rip off and like was mentioned above is old skool. Nice comfy seat, air cooled, adjust the valves with a screw driver and reliable. The 400 is plenty fast on the short pavement transfer sections and is more fun in the tight stuff I like to ride. So for me it's the best XR. But that is the opinion of a guy who likes to ride hike-a-bike stuff.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:15 PM   #5
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thanks Cail, I also like that the 400 is an old skool
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:43 PM   #6
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I vote the XR400 as a great alrounder,from single track to big desert miles.If you dont mind travelling light the 400 is a great bike and will go anywhere easily.Put a lamswool on the seat with some extra foam under it to make the seat wider and you will ride a long way.Simple to repair and service.They will sit on 110 KMph all day loaded.Make some decent pannier racks and keep them as forward as possible so they dont stress the sub frame and just put a small rack on the back.I only sold mine because i got addicted to the sound of a LC8's and wanted to take my kid on some rides(thats wat i told the missus)
But whatever XR you buy you will love Have fun
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:47 PM   #7
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Sounds like the 400 may suit, but don't discount the 600. It's hard to go past that tractor engine, and picking a gear and just leaving it there is rather relaxing. The extra grunt is nice on open trails and roads.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:42 AM   #8
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I've owned all of the XR's you mentioned .
It's hard to go past the 400 or 650.
These days i'd go the 650 but a few years ago it would of been a 400.
About the same reliability,the thing going for the 650 is it's grunt i spose.
Being Honda XR's all you have to do is buy a good one and go from there.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:36 AM   #9
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600r and steel

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Sounds like the 400 may suit, but don't discount the 600. It's hard to go past that tractor engine, and picking a gear and just leaving it there is rather relaxing. The extra grunt is nice on open trails and roads.
That makes sence to me for longer trail rides, the 650r is great too from what I hear, but it is a lot easier to find some one who can weld steel in the middle of nowhere than aluminum. My dad broke his kickstand off in Canada, and the maintenance guy at the campground had a welder and fixed it on the spot for free (we insisted on giving him $20 for beer). My point is if you crack your sub-frame in the boonies (or anywhere for that matter) steel is easier to repair. Now disregard this if you plan on not riding in the boonies or hauling lots of gear, aluminum is way cool.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:38 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by enzo087
Hello,

After many hours checking this forum I narrowed my interests to the bikes mentionned in the title.

One thing though I am not quite sure about is how those bikes differ from each other (except for the obvious differences in cc)??

Are they all suitable for trail riding long distances for instance (my personnal interest)?
The 600/650 have many followers in the ADV community but what about the 400 and 250 then?

Thanks for sharing
XR250: 6 speed, air-cooled, 10 ish inches of travel

XR400: 5 speed, air-cooled plus oil cooler, 11 ish inches of travel

XR600: 5 speed, air-cooled, 11 ish inches of travel

XR650r: 5 speed, water cooled, aluminum frame, 11 ish inches of travel
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:50 AM   #11
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XR250:
XR650r: 5 speed, water cooled, aluminum frame, 11 ish inches of travel
Souped up a bit 55hp at the wheel and shid loads of torque,looks like i'm keeping my 650.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:42 PM   #12
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:18 AM   #13
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hey guys

i was hoping for some advice. My mate and i are planning on riding around Oz next June for 3 months. I own a 96 XR400 with 9000kms on the clock and it looks like my mate will be buying a klr650 for the trip.

Im seriously considering buying a 650 but im pretty strapped for cash (currently a ski bum in japan) and so i was thinking with a few mods my xr400 could make it.

I guess the first and most important question i need to ask is how many km's do these 400's do before requiring a rebuild? Im hoping the trip will be around 18000kms.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:45 AM   #14
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If it's been well maintained, that isn't a lot of miles for an XR400.
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Old 12-21-2008, 04:12 PM   #15
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Whack the HRC 440 kit in it,it wakes them up and makes 'em a bit better on the highway as well.And it's a fresh top end viola.
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