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Old 04-26-2006, 10:07 AM   #61
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AMT is showing the Sahara 3's in tubeless as available, they confirmed with me that I will see tubeless tires delivered. We'll find out tomorrow if in fact they are tubeless as they claim, no other distributer here in the U.S. that I've spoken to has been able to get the sahara's in tubeless.

AMT pricing and sizes,


ENDURO 3 SAHARA

* DUAL SPORT DOT 50% ON / 50% OFF
* DEVELOPED WITH BMW FOR USE ON THE R100 GS
* EXCELLENT OFF ROAD TRACTION PLUS SUPERB TRACKING AND HANDLING FOR THE HIGHWAY
* DOT CERTIFIED
* OEM FOR BMW HP2
* TUBE TYPE UNLESS SPECIFIED

METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 90/90S-21 FRONT
$95.43

METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 90/90H-21 TUBELESS FRONT (BMW HP2)
$102.53

METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 130/80S-17 REAR
$113.79

METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 130/80T-17 REAR
$116.07


METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 140/80H-17 TUBELESS REAR (BMW HP2)
$127.83


METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 4.00S-18 REAR
$95.43


METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 120/80S-18 REAR
$98.90


METZELER ENDURO 3 SAHARA 140/80R-18 REAR
$127.83
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:55 AM   #62
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gotta chime in on this one
got the tkc's, they command respect!
other than that, enduro 3's are not oem for hp2
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:23 PM   #63
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Just pulled the Gripster off of my front wheel and threw on a TKC. Can't believe that the swap took a total of 15 minutes, and it was only that long because I was drinking a beer while doing it!

I can promise that I won't be buying tires at shops anymore, doing it yourself is waaay tooo easy!

The gripster front was 50% gone at 4,000 miles, and I didn't find any fualt with it in any situations (rain, mud, tarmac, ect). Can't wait to see how the TKC's do offroad!
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:30 PM   #64
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Just pulled the Gripster off of my front wheel and threw on a TKC. Can't believe that the swap took a total of 15 minutes, and it was only that long because I was drinking a beer while doing it!

I can promise that I won't be buying tires at shops anymore, doing it yourself is waaay tooo easy!

The gripster front was 50% gone at 4,000 miles, and I didn't find any fualt with it in any situations (rain, mud, tarmac, ect). Can't wait to see how the TKC's do offroad!
Hiya SL!

I predict that you will love the front in gooey mud, on gravel and on dry

pavement.

They're a bit squirmy on wet pavement, something you prolly have in the

great nordwet.

Take it easy at first, until the tires wear in (200 miles or so) and you'll be

loving the ride.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:12 PM   #65
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Sahara's arrived today and I was dissapointed to not see "tubeless" on the 90/90/21, The rear however says tubeless which is great!
Apparently Metzler is importing two different 21" tires both of which are tube type and Parts Unlimited is labeling some as tubeless when in fact the tire is not rated as such.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:04 PM   #66
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I hope they will make it right because that sounds like a bum deal.
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:39 AM   #67
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I hope they will make it right because that sounds like a bum deal.
My first experience with AMT, hopefully they make good or it will be my last dealing with them!
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Old 05-10-2006, 06:50 AM   #68
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Tires, just in time

I was finally able to obtain tires here in country. What I got is:
Metzeler Sahara 3 90/90-21 tube type, $38.00.
Metzeler Tourance 120/90 tube type, $48.00.
These, of course, are made in Brazil.
I mounted them tubeless and had to add a sm. amount of Slime-type sealant to the frt., as It was losing a couple of p.s.i. a day. The rear doesn't lose any. I didn't check the balence, but they run smooth and true.
Although the rear is a little narrower than the O.E.M. tire, rolling diameter is the same. The only time I've noticed the reduction in width is in sand.
I bike had this combo when I got the bike and I think this "mis-match" works great together. The Sahara keeps the frt. planted in all conditions and if the Tourance runs out of traction off-road, well, I'm probably somewhere I shouldn't be anyhow.
The Tourance I took off the rear has plenty of tread left, but the bike had sat before I got it and the tire is rather hard. The ride improved %100 with the new tire. Perhaps when the rainy season is over, I'll reinstall the old tire and try to use it up. I guess I would run low pressure(high 20's) to soften the ride.
I've got a lead on some Anakees, but they are twice the price and not available until June(if then, all the businesses lie to you here).
But, at the price of these Metz's, I think I will buy another set and stock up.
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Old 05-12-2006, 09:01 PM   #69
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Purchased my Pirelli Scorpion ST's and the just arrived. Very cool looking tire. The tread is really deep. Noticably deeper than a Tourance. And I like the tread design better than the Tourance, looks like it would do a lot better in the dirt. I can't wait to try them out.
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:42 PM   #70
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Just a quick word about TKC's...

I've been riding on Avon Gripsters for the last 4,000 miles and have seen plenty of dirt, gravel, mud and rocks... the Gripsters really seemed fine, but that was until last Saturday when I had the opportunity to ride the same dirt, gravel, muds and rocks with a new set of TKC's... Now I understand!

TKC's are a significantly better gripping tire off-road then the Gripsters, and I have yet to feel like I have given anything up on the street. Perhaps I may only see 3-4K out of the rear tire versus 8-10K on the Gripsters, but for what it's worth, and IMHO, I'd rather have a faster wearing tire that truely provides a sense of confidence off road and replace it a bit sooner... my R100GS will be wearing nothing my TKC's from now forward!
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Old 05-15-2006, 03:16 PM   #71
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Just a quick word about TKC's...

I've been riding on Avon Gripsters for the last 4,000 miles and have seen plenty of dirt, gravel, mud and rocks... the Gripsters really seemed fine, but that was until last Saturday when I had the opportunity to ride the same dirt, gravel, muds and rocks with a new set of TKC's... Now I understand!

TKC's are a significantly better gripping tire off-road then the Gripsters, and I have yet to feel like I have given anything up on the street. Perhaps I may only see 3-4K out of the rear tire versus 8-10K on the Gripsters, but for what it's worth, and IMHO, I'd rather have a faster wearing tire that truely provides a sense of confidence off road and replace it a bit sooner... my R100GS will be wearing nothing my TKC's from now forward!
I am glad for your enlightenment.
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:15 PM   #72
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All I can say is it's about fookin time.... who was holding out on me? Feel like I wasted two seasons of riding on those Gripsters.... maybe I wouldn't have crashed so many times with TKC's

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Old 05-15-2006, 04:52 PM   #73
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DP Tires & Street Tires

I've run Enduros 3's the old Enduro 4's that later became the Tourance when the front thread was revised for less cupping. I've also used the Laser ME33 90-21 front and two ME rears ME55 and 550 in a 140 and 130 widths.

What I've noticed about the DP tires that with the thicker threads than the street tires handling deteriorates more on the DP tires as they wear as the profile changes more drastically than on the thinner street tires. The Tourances lasted 8000 mi, 5000 for the Metz. street tires on a R100GS. The Enduro 3's not very long 3-4000 mi.

Liked the 130 with on the ME550 better than the 140 with of the ME55, the bike jist leans quicker with the 130 which is the stock size.
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Old 05-16-2006, 06:35 AM   #74
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Purchased my Pirelli Scorpion ST's and the just arrived. Very cool looking tire. The tread is really deep. Noticably deeper than a Tourance. And I like the tread design better than the Tourance, looks like it would do a lot better in the dirt. I can't wait to try them out.

Post a pic. or two, sporting your Scorps! I'd really like to see them. Also, how do they ride? Little did I know in starting this thread, I would make my Tires Choices MORE COMPLEX!!!

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Old 05-16-2006, 12:01 PM   #75
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Post a pic. or two, sporting your Scorps! I'd really like to see them. Also, how do they ride? Little did I know in starting this thread, I would make my Tires Choices MORE COMPLEX!!!

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The Scorpions come stock on most KTM 950 Adventures.
Good compromise tire.
The 4 guys in our club who have the 950's say the tire is about 40% off-road
and 60% on. Bear in mind though, these are hardcore dirt riders. YRMV.
One of the 4 didn't care for the tire cause he goes fast in sugar sand and always felt a bit too close to crashing. He IS a AA level enduro rider, thus
being much more talented than us mere mortals. He put MT21 Pirellis on and
now bitches about how fast they wear. I'm not a "told ya so" guy so I bit
my tongue about off......I think that bike will have TKC's on in a few weeks.
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