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Old 12-13-2013, 05:33 AM   #1
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Moto Guzzi V65 NTX (NTX650 ?) - any owners out there ?

As the titles says, any Guzzi NTX650 owners out there ?

I just picked one up last night - a 1987 model in red & white. Period red Krausers included. I realise these are an extremely rare beast: this is the only one in
Ireland (I believe) and only 3 existing in the UK. Some other like-minded individuals would be handy as I feel a couple of questions coming on !!
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:33 PM   #2
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As the titles says, any Guzzi NTX650 owners out there ?

I just picked one up last night - a 1987 model in red & white. Period red Krausers included. I realise these are an extremely rare beast: this is the only one in
Ireland (I believe) and only 3 existing in the UK. Some other like-minded individuals would be handy as I feel a couple of questions coming on !!
i've had a V65 tt that mutated into NTX then to a desert racer replica , and now is halfway back to becoming a v65TT again....
i did 180.000 km on mine
nice bike , the front brake is feeble, rear suspension is pretty minimal ( dont be tempted to fit longer shocks, the UJ doesnt appreciate)
and fit a sleeve in the back of the gearbox , so it survives a broken UJ.

with these mods , enjoy the bike , they are pretty brilliant.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:03 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info !
My NTX seems to have lower than standard shocks which make the bike
appear lower at the rear. Are the standard length shock okay do you think ?
Can you give me a little more info on the sleeve for the gearbox that
you mention ?
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:00 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info !
My NTX seems to have lower than standard shocks which make the bike
appear lower at the rear. Are the standard length shock okay do you think ?
Can you give me a little more info on the sleeve for the gearbox that
you mention ?

the engine and swingarm should be in a straight line when the bike is riding along
the standard shocks are ok, as long as you adjust the spring preload to get the swingarm straight.
there is not much you can do about the suspension without major modifications.




the sleeve is just that , a piece of steel pipe turned down to fit inside the back end of the gearbox
it is available from TLM.nl, but easy to make if you've got acces to a lathe.
without the sleeve , if a UJ fails the rear of the gearbox , and often one side of the swingarm is destroyed.
the result of a failed UJ doesn't look pretty...
http://borrani.com.au/?p=44
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:43 AM   #5
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Hey, nice bike !
I was thinking maybe of replacing the low shocks that are on it maybe for some standard length Hagon's. Just to restore it to it's natural stance.
Thanks for the sleeve tip.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:08 AM   #6
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I have one!
Currently driving it from Nepal to Holland :)

see my website

www.waarjijnunietbent.nl

Some nice reading
http://www.odd-bike.com/2014/04/moto...f-roaders.html

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Old 01-11-2015, 10:15 PM   #7
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I have just taken ownership of a 1988 NTX 650 Guzzi … has been laid up for some time and key lost hence ignition has been taken out bikes is in good nick and have no doubt it will a be starter but it heritage is a mystery it has had English plates at some time but never registered in Australia so someone has bought it into the country as household effects other wise a import certificate would show up on the search …. you guys say these are rather rare so maybe you know of someone who packed up and left the mother land with bike under arm and settled in good ol Australia …. my interest at the moment is to get a manual for it and i would like to find a new dash panel and left hand side panel can any one help? i will now try to put up a photo /Users/Cockatoo/Desktop/2015-01-07 14.44.18.jpg….. looks like someone is going to have to show me how to add a photo
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:48 PM   #8
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where abouts in Oz are you?
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:27 PM   #9
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I have just taken ownership of a 1988 NTX 650 Guzzi … has been laid up for some time and key lost hence ignition has been taken out
"No key" is an easy fix. If it's the original switch, there should be a code stamped into the switch right next to the key slot. With that code, you can have a key cut to work by these fine folks: http://keys4classics.com/html/MotoGuzzi.html
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:08 AM   #10
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650 NTX manuals

"my interest at the moment is to get a manual for it"

Manual for the NTX is the 1983 base manual for the V35, V50, V65 available at:
http://guzzitek.org/gb/atelier_gb.htm

The supplement for the NTX in Italian is also available there (bad copy - I tend to use the 750 NTX supplement which is available in English and covers most of the cycle parts).

The parts list is available in English from the same site:

http://guzzitek.org/gb/parts_list_gb.htm

As to rarity, less than 1,800 were produced:

First 650NTX Frame Number
11111
Last 650NTX Frame Number
12870
Total Number of 650NTXs produced
1759

One point to be careful of is the level of oil in the bevel drive. It needs to be checked with the swinging arm parallel to the ground otherwise you get a false reading with the level plug.
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:45 AM   #11
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I've got an '87.It supposedly had 28,000km on the clock when I bought it but I'm now pretty sure that the speedo drive was off for a while.
Had issues with the motoplatt so I fitted a sachse ignition. I'm short legged so the marzocchi shocks were taken off and slightly shorter konis fitted.I also cut the seat down and fitted a quota sidestand.
Threw a big end a while ago so got another engine off a v 65.Rebuilding the small blocs is darn expensive compared to their big brothers.
The next wave of mods is to go to an 18' front hoop and Breva floating disk, caliper and master cylinder to improve the handling and front brakes.
Love the TT motard Huub ! More info on the swinging arm please....
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:48 AM   #12
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"my interest at the moment is to get a manual for it"

Manual for the NTX is the 1983 base manual for the V35, V50, V65 available at:
http://guzzitek.org/gb/atelier_gb.htm

The supplement for the NTX in Italian is also available there (bad copy - I tend to use the 750 NTX supplement which is available in English and covers most of the cycle parts).

The parts list is available in English from the same site:

http://guzzitek.org/gb/parts_list_gb.htm

As to rarity, less than 1,800 were produced:

First 650NTX Frame Number
11111
Last 650NTX Frame Number
12870
Total Number of 650NTXs produced
1759

One point to be careful of is the level of oil in the bevel drive. It needs to be checked with the swinging arm parallel to the ground otherwise you get a false reading with the level plug.
Best way to fill the level without dismounting the shocks is to put the rear wheel on some wooden blocks or so
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Old 01-17-2015, 02:48 PM   #13
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I've got an '87.It supposedly had 28,000km on the clock when I bought it but I'm now pretty sure that the speedo drive was off for a while.
Had issues with the motoplatt so I fitted a sachse ignition. I'm short legged so the marzocchi shocks were taken off and slightly shorter konis fitted.I also cut the seat down and fitted a quota sidestand.
Threw a big end a while ago so got another engine off a v 65.Rebuilding the small blocs is darn expensive compared to their big brothers.
The next wave of mods is to go to an 18' front hoop and Breva floating disk, caliper and master cylinder to improve the handling and front brakes.
Love the TT motard Huub ! More info on the swinging arm please....
How do you go about fitting the Quota sidestand? Do you have to weld on a bracket? Thanks
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:15 AM   #14
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Just used a bit of flat bar between the centre stand mounting and the big bolt that goes through the engine caseing.The stand needed aout 3 cm extra welding and the big bolt had to be longer but it was pretty easy and looks pretty ' factory ".
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