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Old 04-20-2006, 08:23 PM   #1
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new electric scooter!

my girlfriend works for a company that is helping this company www.vectrixusa.com with the making of this electric scooter. she says ducati is somehow involved I'm not sure how yet! but it sounds interesting. I do not ride scooters but I am interested in hearing from people that know scooters what you think of this scooter? is it something you would ride or buy? what is your opinion?

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:16 PM   #2
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Well first, I hope your girlfriend does not get in any trouble. Typically there are things like non disclosure agreements.

Now on the the scooter. Electric scooters are a tough call. I like the idea. However, in general americans do not buy expensive, new, two-wheelers as basic transportation. There is the length of time to the break even point on this thing
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While it is likely to cost slightly more than an equivalent gas maxi-scooter, the Vectrix scooter will be up to 25% cheaper to own over four years
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I really would lie to see it work. I just doubt it will.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:01 PM   #3
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62mph top speed and 68 miles range is not acceptable, period.
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Old 04-21-2006, 03:32 AM   #4
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62mph top speed and 68 miles range is not acceptable, period.
Actually, I think that range and speed are quite good for city dwellers. Most would ride less than 30 miles/day, and having double that range avaliable is a big bonus.
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Old 04-21-2006, 04:49 AM   #5
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Actually, I think that range and speed are quite good for city dwellers. Most would ride less than 30 miles/day, and having double that range avaliable is a big bonus.

I agree - most urban commuters would give up some mph for extended range. Price point will important though. If it is too expensive Americans will not buy it.
Plug in scooters are seen throughout Europe - they appear less powerful though. Outlets to plug into are available on the street in many European cites also. Not sure that American cities would install that - thus the need for range. Rush hour commutes in most cities rarely gets to 50 mph! Also, many commutes are too short for most motorcycles to properly charge or reach operating temperature.
I. for one, am very interested in learning more - it would be perfect for Philadelphia area commuting.
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:38 AM   #6
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Actually, I think that range and speed are quite good for city dwellers. Most would ride less than 30 miles/day, and having double that range avaliable is a big bonus.
The trouble with marketing is that you do not sell to what people do. You sell to what they want to see themselves doing.
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:49 AM   #7
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62mph top speed and 68 miles range is not acceptable, period.
I disagree. That range and speed fits well within my commute parameters--I"d have enough for errand-running plus the commute daily, with flow of traffic rarerly exceeding 50mph.

Personally I'd like to see it or an additional model in a smaller package. One of the advantages of the smaller scoots, whether it's the Stella or Super 9, is that I can snug it up against a building somewhere and make my own parking. The maxi scoots have to be parked in a regular space. I would consider a smaller-frame scoot of this sort.

I've read the early report in one magazine and have been following the brand.

However, here in the US, I think that it would appeal only to early adopters and acceptance past that will be slow. Honda has been working on a hybrid for a while that may clear the path for other electrics and hybrids, and they will have the advantage of an existing parts bin, branding, a dealer network, and so on.

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Old 04-21-2006, 01:16 PM   #8
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Mind you thats 68 miles @25mph but the speed and range are more then acceptable but if I was to get an electric scoot I'd want a small one not a maxi-scoot. I'd rather have something the size of the 150cc scoots but I suppose they need to make it large for the battery packs.
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Old 04-23-2006, 07:14 AM   #9
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I think that there is lots of potential with it! if they can extend range to 100 miles maybe a little more speed and I think the biggie will be price.
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:58 AM   #10
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When we get to $3.00 a gallon gas, this thing probably will take off.

If the pricepoint is reasonable, its a seller. I'd love to see a nation of scooters!

Two concerns: Liability from having no noise. Someone might own the company after running down a couple of pedestrians. Maybe play a recording of a harley...
Also, I wonder about registration, I doubt many states are set up to handle something like this. Well, its under 50cc, but goes faster than 35.

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p.s. The company I work for would love to sub-contract components on a project like this.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:53 AM   #11
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When we get to $3.00 a gallon gas?

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When we get to $3.00 a gallon gas, this thing probably will take off.

If the pricepoint is reasonable, its a seller. I'd love to see a nation of scooters!

Two concerns: Liability from having no noise. Someone might own the company after running down a couple of pedestrians. Maybe play a recording of a harley...
Also, I wonder about registration, I doubt many states are set up to handle something like this. Well, its under 50cc, but goes faster than 35.

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p.s. The company I work for would love to sub-contract components on a project like this.

Here in Philadelphia it is already over $3.00 - $3.09 for regular this morning!
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Old 04-23-2006, 07:14 PM   #12
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Here in Philadelphia it is already over $3.00 - $3.09 for regular this morning!

Time for a Scooter!!!


(Although, the Schukill (sp.?) Expressway might be a challenge)
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Old 04-28-2006, 08:39 AM   #13
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after seeing the big oil companies latest profits I am seriously considering it! at this point I do not want to give those bastards any more money than I have to.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:41 AM   #14
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I'm hoping to rehab myself enough to get back on the scooter. I really miss 85mpg. Once I got into the habit of $12/month for fuel/oil, it got addictive.

As demand increases for cool scoots, hybrids, electrics etc. we'll see more interesting options come to the US. It's a win-win for people to take a look at alternatives. What's on the menu right now may not attract people beyond the early adopters but if we let people know that we're willing to look at new stuff, it'll come our way. Right now the US scooter market is tiny compared to the rest of the world so we're only seeing "safe bets" for the market. I hope that changes.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:39 PM   #15
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Looks like GroovyGreen.com got the scoop on riding one of these things--at least in video. Check out their video preview over at:

http://www.groovygreen.com/index.php...=274&Itemid=57
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