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Old 04-13-2009, 12:32 PM   #22516
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Intiminator Review(first impressions)

Just installed the Intiminators...Installation was easy and quick. First impressions are mixed however. For those of you familiar with the 'brain' shock on specialized mountain bikes that are essentially unresponsive to rider input but compliant over rough terrain- this is what I was expecting, but not what I observed. The front end will still dive if I bounce on the pegs riding down a paved road...maybe not as much, but still not a big change. Standing still, I can grab the front brake and easily push up and down on the fork. Front end dive due to braking is still present. Their website notes that the front wheel will react faster to bumps, and this may be true, but I was only able to ride a short section of rooty dirt trail at low/med speed. Did not get to test it out on any washboard gravel roads, or hit any big whoops or chunky rocky ruts, etc. The small amount of preload now in the springs due to the intiminators was evident, and I think this is a good thing. I will add a full review once I get to spend a full day in the woods. I bought these with the 50% discount, and I'm still trying to determine if they were worth it even at that price.
More to come upon a thorough dirt thrashing.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:23 PM   #22517
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The frickin' bead will not pop. Keep in mind, this is a TUBELESS tire run with a Tube. I never got a flat on the rear with this tire ... good thing. A road side repair would have been out of the question.


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Old 04-13-2009, 02:39 PM   #22518
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I just returned from my trial ride with the intiminators. I installed them on Saturday and everything went smoothly with the total install time being just over 1 hour. I took a bit of extra time to clean everything well.

I tried to ride some of the rougher roads, which aren't too difficult to find here in PA, to get a good feel for how these work. I will agree with the previous posts that front end dive reduction under braking is moderate at best. I did notice a tighter feel to the front suspension and it seemed to work a bit smoother as well. It did seem like the front wheel maintained better contact with the road surface rather than bouncing over most of the irregularities in the road. I always felt like the front was what really needed attention, but now I feel like the rear is in need more than the front, so I guess it made a substantial improvement. I am still a bit disappointed in the amount of dive while braking, but in fairness, this is not really what the product was advertised to improve.

I set the oil level at 5 inches below the top of the fork tubes as it fell right in the middle of their 4 to 6 inch recommendation. I am 230 pounds without gear and my '06 bike is totally stock in regards to suspension. This should establish some sort of baseline for you to relate to.

Final thoughts after a short shake down ride:
I am pleased with the results in relation to the price I paid, but I would feel differently if I had paid $300.00 instead of $150.00. I will give them a better workout when I have more time to ride and will post my feelings if they differ from my original impressions. Perhaps they would work better if combined with heavier rate springs? I may try that at a later time too.

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Old 04-13-2009, 03:14 PM   #22519
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Hey Duane,
You mind givin' me a hand with mine once they arrive?
I'm also going with the Cogent rear shock, who, as we speak is also testing a set of intiminators...

I'll give you a shout when I get back up north...

Thanks for the report

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Old 04-13-2009, 03:25 PM   #22520
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No problem Dean. Just let me know when you get back and have time to do it.

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Old 04-13-2009, 03:59 PM   #22521
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That's some funny schnit right thar!!
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:11 PM   #22522
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I'm spitting the coolaide back out.....

I got on my GS this weekend and rode it around for most of the day. Once I got home I wished I would have taken the DR instead. Then I realized, I couldnt have taken the hooker, the seat it out for an upgrade from Renazaco.

It's worth it. I'll be back to thumper style soon enough

These bikes fookn RAWWK. Brake line and pad upgrades next weekend!
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:34 PM   #22523
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I just returned from my trial ride with the intiminators.....
I will agree with the previous posts that front end dive reduction under braking is moderate at best.

I am still a bit disappointed in the amount of dive while braking, but in fairness, this is not really what the product was advertised to improve.

I am 230 pounds without gear and my '06 bike is totally stock in regards to suspension. This should establish some sort of baseline for you to relate to.

Perhaps they would work better if combined with heavier rate springs? I may try that at a later time too.

Duane

I finished installing mine today but decided to take the triples apart and grease the steering bearings while I was in there so no ride yet.
I was thinking along these lines myself when we first heard of them here, that maybe a pair of straight rate springs would be better suited with this mod instead of the stock progressive springs. First I'll try them as suggested, and if I think I need it I'll drop the Eibach springs in there since I already have them.
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #22524
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I finished installing mine today but decided to take the triples apart and grease the steering bearings while I was in there so no ride yet.
I was thinking along these lines myself when we first heard of them here, that maybe a pair of straight rate springs would be better suited with this mod instead of the stock progressive springs. First I'll try them as suggested, and if I think I need it I'll drop the Eibach springs in there since I already have them.
I'm now thinking that I will wait to hear what you and others think. I hate brake dive. and I have the Eibachs in there now. Time is precious lately and I really can't imaging the stockers being enough without about nine inches of pre-load.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:13 PM   #22525
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I'm now thinking that I will wait to hear what you and others think. I hate brake dive. and I have the Eibachs in there now. Time is precious lately and I really can't imaging the stockers being enough without about nine inches of pre-load.
The damping won't change the amount of brake dive travel, just the speed they dive at. only a change of springs can change the amount they travel. personaly dive dosen't worry me on a dual sport, on a sport bike it would be more of a problem.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:36 PM   #22526
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I suppose that if I left the bike stock and rode the poor thing like some must, I wouldn't see a problem with brake dive either.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:07 PM   #22527
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I suppose that if I left the bike stock and rode the poor thing like some must, I wouldn't see a problem with brake dive either.
Oh I see you ride BMW's nuff said
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:52 PM   #22528
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The damping won't change the amount of brake dive travel, just the speed they dive at. only a change of springs can change the amount they travel. personaly dive dosen't worry me on a dual sport, on a sport bike it would be more of a problem.
If it would be a static load you're right. Think of it as using 30W oil in your forks you'll end up with rock hard suspension and less brake dive. By the time the forks are fully compressed. the load (braking) is gone. So you end up with less dive.

I've had the intiminators in there for a week and it is a huge difference over the stock suspension. No diving during changing gears. A bit of brake dive but it's way better then stock.

Hitting bumps like curbs and stuff, it feels pretty much like the stock suspension just a bit softer. It just soaks it up. I still need to test it over the whoopwhoops (how I hate them) but I'm afraid my rear shock is jealous and will try to kick me of the bike. On gravel roads and for commuting it's definitly a good investment.

I wonder what'll happen if I put on the safari, but if it stays like this I can't see any improvement with stiffer springs. So they are more expensive then racetech valves but you might save on springs.

150 USD was a bargain happy I got them. I wouldn't have bought them for 300.

Big cryout to the guys at ricor to think of something similar for the rear shock.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:24 AM   #22529
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Big cryout to the guys at ricor to think of something similar for the rear shock.
Why?
Get it tuned at any suspension shop or even stick a gold valve in there and get it tuned at a suspension shop.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:37 AM   #22530
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I suppose that if I left the bike stock and rode the poor thing like some must, I wouldn't see a problem with brake dive either.
To this noob, it doesn't seem like brake dive is such a bad thing in emergency stop situations (as long as the forks don't bottom-out), since it would lower your CG and transfer more traction to the front wheel...though I've been known to be wrong!
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