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Old 12-18-2009, 07:09 AM   #29806
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Originally Posted by DirtyDR650
Two questions regarding recent topics.

Lowering foot pegs - Has anyone simply cut off their footpegs, shortened the bracket, and re-welded them on? I have a MIG, and that's what the Procycle pegs appear to be?

Seat - Anyone who's done their own seat ever use a closed-cell foam camping pad roll-up sleeping mat? Seems like one of those is plenty big enough to cut whatever shape you want and use multiple layers? (thinking lowering the seat an inch or two as well as comfort)

Thanks for any input!
yeah, someone on here cut & welded peg brackets, looked great
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:21 AM   #29807
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Originally Posted by NC Rick
FWIW, I don't care for the rim locks on my Dual Sport bikes. It is hard to get a real good tire balance with them and vibrations on the road develop to some level or another. With aggressive knobbies, those likely would not be noticed But I don't like to run those either because of their poor road performance. We have a lot of rocky terrain and with the dual-sport imposed compromises, running low tire pressures cause a lot of flat tires (did I say that I hate fixing flats?). For me, running pressures in the low 20s works best for of road and I can get away with out the rim locks. In my long past dirt bike days, I ran these really stiff knobbies with twin rimlocks, a tire mounting fluid that set like glue and I had sheet metal screws through the rim edges to engage the bead of the tire. When those tires went flat, you could still ride home.

I bought a DRZ 400E that was street legal a couple years back, set it up with MT 21s and double rim locks and all that, It was great when I loaded it in the truck to get to a dirt riding area but I hated riding it on the pavement. It sat and I continued to ride my beloved DR 650. The DRZ is since sold and the DR 650 keeps getting more improvements. If I had better access to real dirt riding things would be different ( and I likely would not start with a dr 650). I end up on a lot of poorly paved and gravel roads and I love riding on those too. My DR 650 normally rides on 80-20 tires and I have a blast. I have done a number of organized Dual Sport rides on those (including the old, and sandy Alligator Dual Sport in Florida). I try not to get frustrated by the compromise of the Dual-Sport bike but find my perfect ride includes a spirited jaunt on pavement, gravel, jeep roads and single track, all in one days ride. Nirvana. Just another view

What's your opinion on having a rimlock on the rear tire in case you get a flat on the street and want to ride it a few miles home? I'm a total n00b to bikes but I had the impression that a rimlock would allow you to ride on a flat in the back...

(I do about 95% street riding fairly close to home and don't carry tools to fix a flat, and probably wouldn't want to abandon the bike to go fetch tools or the truck.)
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:17 AM   #29808
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Originally Posted by redfishguide
I'd have to disagree with you. As delivered the Dr is pretty much a street bike so rim locks are surely not needed. If you intend to ride a significant amount of dirt rim locks are a necessity. I spun two back tires ripping off the valve stems before switching to a DR 350 rear which is drilled for two rim locks. No more issues with the rear when I air down to 15 lbs though I did manage to spin a front. I'm thinking low air and heavy front brake use.

It's really all about how you plan on riding your DR, but blanket statements based only on your experience are misleading.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:48 AM   #29809
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Seat Foam FYI

A source for seat foam. A little $pendy but, for the creative do it your self seat build good stuff or just sit on it
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:48 AM   #29810
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Originally Posted by DirtyDR650
Two questions regarding recent topics.

Lowering foot pegs - Has anyone simply cut off their footpegs, shortened the bracket, and re-welded them on? I have a MIG, and that's what the Procycle pegs appear to be?

Seat - Anyone who's done their own seat ever use a closed-cell foam camping pad roll-up sleeping mat? Seems like one of those is plenty big enough to cut whatever shape you want and use multiple layers? (thinking lowering the seat an inch or two as well as comfort)

Thanks for any input!
I just rebuilt my seat for the third time to remove the closed-cell foam camping pad. First try was to cover the stock seat with it - that didn't do it, stock foam under a layer of the camping pad was still too soft. It did widen the seat about an inch though, which helps give me something to grab with my knees when standing.
Second try was leaving the extra width with the camping pad foam, cutting out most of the stock foam where I sat, replacing it with a gardeners kneeling pad on the remaining stock foam and several layers of the camping pad foam on top of that. That truly sucked - camping foam was WAY too hard in the 3 layers I used and was killing my skinny ass bones.
3rd try left the gardeners kneeling pad in place (I used on of these succesfully on my 950SE) and added several layers of carpet underlayment. I was more careful to get the seat flatter, a little taller. I can ride it about 2 hours without stopping now, a fair bit better. Still not 100% though. FYI - I'm 6'3 and 150 pounds. Most butts will squish that camping foam a bit more than mine.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:29 AM   #29811
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NC Rick, what tires have you settled on ?...

Good informative posting/opinion on the dualsport rimlock issues Rick.
Which brands and models of 80/20 tires have you settled upon, that you're satisfied with, for your described usage ?

And I can't remember, did you ever try the "Intiminators" fork cartridges in your DR and if so what was your impressions. I've still got an early -50% set sitting on the shelf, probably drop em in this spring and make up my mind on front springs, for my 200 lbs riding weight...

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Old 12-18-2009, 09:53 AM   #29812
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Originally Posted by Elvis70
Yes I do right now. Yes the 130/80 fits fine. No rim locks, I never use them, but I don't ride hard trails, not yet anyway. I run fast and hard on the county roads here, some of which are really trails with road numbers. This is deliverance country afterall. I love this tire. TKC-80 at half the price. Can't believe how well the knobs work on pavement.
Thanks for the input. They look like a nice tire and after I get done wearing out the Kenda 270's I think I 'll try a pair

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Old 12-18-2009, 11:03 AM   #29813
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Originally Posted by NC Rick
If I had better access to real dirt riding things would be different ( and I likely would not start with a dr 650).
Have you ever ridden with SVMango (Brent) from Canton? I followed him up a few trails that made me glad I was on a KTM and not my DR. The FAA tower trail comes to mind.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:24 PM   #29814
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Originally Posted by fiBishop
Thanks Ride Far, kuyaoli and ditchbanker. That saves me some shopping!

I came up with the quickest possible fix on the butt problem...I folded a small fluffy towel a couple times and sat on it. Made a HUGE difference for 30 mile commute to trails. I'm definitely going for a longer term solution soon though. Those riding pants ( have my eye too.

The first things I'm going to do are lower the bike (yeah, wanted to ride rather than turn wrenches last night) and install hand guards. Then wind screen and stiffen the suspension a tick.

Damn I'm having fun!!!
Talking about the towel reminded me of something. Somewhere out there there's a product called sweet cheeks that is a nylon cover you can put two liter bottles into (one on each side of the seat) and adjust with water to get the right firmness. It's supposed to make it wider. I have no experience with this, but if you're looking for the cheapest fix you can, you might want to do a google search or ask for some advice from people on the board who've tried it, I'm sure there are some.
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:06 PM   #29815
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As for rim locks I have 3, 2 in the rear and one in the front. I did ride home on a flat rear tire and stupid me I didn't notice tell I was home cleaning the bike and "Where's the tire valve?" Ruined the tube and I could have reused the tire (kenda270) but I figured a NEW TUBE needs a new tire. Rimlocks mean lower tire pressure, bigger footprint in the sand.
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:27 PM   #29816
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Hey Ride Far

What happened to your blog?? It ground to a halt in January :( I live in South Africa and was really enjoying your quality posts as you headed south.
Yeah sorry about that Jenx. I plan to update in the next month or so ... funny how it's harder to find the time for it when you're back home & working vs. on the road traveling...
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:22 PM   #29817
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Rim Locks

I had never used rim locks in the past. Only on dirt only bikes that came with them. I always thought that my DR would not need them. Well about 3 months ago I had my D606's mounted up and had been doing some pretty gnarly trail riding in the woods. I had a flat at 18psi. Didn't think much of it. Changed tubes and went back to riding. Next day had a flat again. Got to looking at the tubes on the back and it was breaking loose at the valve stem. I determined that those 606's were biting so hard it was spinning the tire on the rim. Then had one on the front after riding a really tight twisty section on pavement with street tires. I figured it was because braking hard for corners. Installed 1 rim lock on each rim and no more worries. I have had no more flats since then.

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Old 12-18-2009, 02:29 PM   #29818
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I run a Kenda TrakMaster II 760

I usually run 15-16psi and have a rimlock in the rear. I haven't found the need for a front rimlock and believe that "out of balance" would be more noticable on a front tire. Offroad, without a rimlock + bad IMO. A friend on a DRZ got a flat and his tire was off both beads and spinning hopelessly within a mile. We didn't have anything to fix tha flat at the time and ended pushing it out and going for the truck. If you got a gash in the tire you might not be able to fix a flat also. Rimlocks for me please.
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:44 PM   #29819
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For those of you who have vibration problems with rim locks, you might want to look into the Talon brand ones. They are made from billet aluminum and weigh about 1/3 to 1/2 less than the standard ones like Motion Pro.

Even though it only takes a few minutes on the balancing stand I don't even bother with additional weights any more since I can't tell a difference. This is on my off road wheel set however, so I don't ride highways etc much with it.

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Old 12-18-2009, 03:25 PM   #29820
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Hello everyone,I'm a newbie in this forum!
So,I accidentally found info and pictures about Suzuki Dr650 and i fell in love whit it!! 100% that Dr650 will be my next bike!
Now I just need to sell my Kawasaki Er5 and then go get one of Suzuki babies.

I was wondering ,whats a normal price for about 97~~00 year Dr650 ?
In my country is very small selection,best offer is 97 Suzuki Dr 650 for 2800 $ ,is that normal price?
Sorry for my english,still working on it :)
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