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Old 01-17-2011, 05:34 PM   #44056
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I have suspension questions...need input.

I'm look'n at the(Pro Cycle) fork solution kit with .50 springs and the shock solutions kit for the rear but need school'n first.

can this set up deal with a 300 pound rider plus IMS tank, and side bags ? I dont like beat'n on my bike but wont hesitate if I need to clear a ditch or a gnarly hill climb, but mostly a conservative rider, it'll also be used as a daily commuter.

Can these suspension mods deal with my needs ? if not what do you suggest ?
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:37 PM   #44057
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it's pretty hard to get some decent luggage w/o spending $200+
even if you use cheapy soft sidebags (are they waterproof? bring trashbags) you still need to buy some side kinda of racks or you'll melt the bags and/or the side cover on the muffler.
even getting a cheap dry duffel for everything requires some kind of a rack to support it.

i took all those expenses into acct and went with the giant loop coyote for the flexabillity. i can move it around to anybike (even a rental) and when i'm not using it nothing is left on the bike. yes initially expensive but it's bomberproof and i'll be using it for years. it does not require a rear rack.
i got mine here.
http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/ind..._detail&p=2045

i think the end about the cheapeast you're gonna get is these
http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Access.../dp/B000RN4FK6
with this GL muffler protector:
http://www.giantloopmoto.com/product...gs-heat-shield
not bad and you're in for $80. you might add this dry duffel $36 and strap it across the rear of the seat & the rear fender http://www.goldmarkpromotions.com/it...3-9AF5DB12417C i think you can get away w/out use a rear rack.

camping gear goes in the dry duffel and clothes go in a trashbag and then sidebags and your touring on the dr for $116. even the klr would be proud how cheap you are but it works.
I was refering specifically to the price of the Wolfman and Fandango tank bags. They are what are priced outside personal value index.
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:47 PM   #44058
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i saw that but wonder how strong it is. all i see are 2 forward side mounts and the center one. it looks like w/ any weight the rear will sag bending the center mount. no bueno.
let us know!

when i think of a rear rack, i'm looking for serious weight caryying capacity as the subframe can handle it. i'm talking about a dry duffel with tent, pad, sleeping bag and more.

Will do.
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Old 01-17-2011, 06:23 PM   #44059
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I've had the JC Whitney tail box on my first DR and took it off for two reasons, one was it had to be packed full or everything rattled and beat the crap what ever was packed in there. The final straw was when going down a steep and rough down hill I was standing on the pegs with my weight shifted rearwards and the tail trunk smacked me on the tail bone.
yeah hard rear boxes and off-road do not go together. there is a reason why guys who use hard side bags still use soft dry duffels on the rear.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:33 PM   #44060
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yeah hard rear boxes and off-road do not go together. there is a reason why guys who use hard side bags still use soft dry duffels on the rear.
I won't use hard bags that don't come off in a crash, too many friends and friends of friends over the years have broken a leg because of them. I know if you keep your feet on the pegs and ride the crash to the ground you shouldn't get hurt. I just have perfected that yet.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:36 PM   #44061
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it's pretty hard to get some decent luggage w/o spending $200+
even if you use cheapy soft sidebags (are they waterproof? bring trashbags) you still need to buy some side kinda of racks or you'll melt the bags and/or the side cover on the muffler.
even getting a cheap dry duffel for everything requires some kind of a rack to support it...............
TOO MANY CHOICES OUT THERE! Hard bags, soft bags, loop bags! ARGH!
I like the idea of Aluminum panniers because I could attach a couple of roto-pax and not need to buy a bigger tank. I like the Pelicans because they are probably the strongest thing out there. I like the soft luggage because I am a cheap SOB. The GL would be great because I could move it from bike to bike. Oh well, these things have a way of sorting themselves out... usually in the form of a can't pass it up bargain sale. Sure do appreciate all the good info here on ADV rider.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:42 PM   #44062
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I'm pretty much in the same boat...bought an 09 bike new Feb. of 2010 $5000 out the door...spent about $1200 with pro cycle (Thanks Jeff!!) another $300 on saddle bags/mounts, some other odds and ends...so call it $7000. I will have had the bike a year next month and have around 9000 miles on it! The best money I ever spent on a motorcycle. I like it so much I plan on selling my street bike. I might spend some more at Cognet when I can but all in all you can't have that much fun for $7000 and have the bike JUST THE WAY YOU WANT IT!

I say spend the money...who needs electricity in the house!

Are you kidding me ?? About $9000 on the road for a new DR650 here in Aus and considering the AUS/US dollar is hovering around parity, you guys are well ahead. Even with the range of gear you have at your doorstep through Procycle and Keintech makes me wonder why everyone over there doesn't ride a DR650. make the most of it and farkle your little hearts away-Enjoy
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:47 AM   #44063
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anyone use the happy trails k9 fork brace on their dr?
had an eagle mike (like the k9) one on my klr and it helped alot but those klr forks are noodles. wondering what the effect is on the dr??? does it hit the fender on compression?

i've got intiminators and upgraded springs in there (i'm the guy that wrote the install post) so i'm happy with that, but what about stiffness increase? there are no USD forks but do the braces make a diff???

some talk about the brace making the dr more stable at speed/wind but i have an acerbis ktm front fender and i have none of those issues.

http://www.happy-trail.com/Products/...HTP_4-8-9.aspx

i like the k9 design as it adjust for slight fork width variances unlike the superbrace one that is fixed.
i would propoerly align the forks before i add the brace.
http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...Alignment_Tool
plus i would use the shorty style neoprene seal saves vrs the squished up oem slider guards.
I like fork braces - I have one (the K-9) on my DR and one each on my ZRX1100 and DL1000 - only mey ZX6 is without one. I find the brace enhances front end feel under heavy braking, hard cornering and trail braking (all on pavement).

I have the Intiminators, and a Wilburs rear shock on the DR. Everytime I add something to one end the other end seems to suffer. So having just added the Wilburs, now I'm thinking of stiffer, non-progressive springs in the forks. Actually, the springs are in my den, just need to put them in!
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:24 AM   #44064
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it's pretty hard to get some decent luggage w/o spending $200+
I already owned the Helen Two Wheel's duffel ($75) and the yellow kayak bag ($30) when I suffered the brain phart and got into this dual sport thing.

Counting shipping I have right at $450 in the following:
- Happy Trails racks for soft bags
- Wolfman Summit Saddlebags
- Wolfman Enduro Tank Bag
- Generic ATV Panniers

And since the bike does not come with one from the factory I suppose it would be appropriate to include the Suzuki tail rack. Tack on another $80.

That comes to a total of $635 for luggage and storage.



No doubt there are less expensive ways to do it but for my purposes having tough, tested equipment was worth it the ride.

PS: the hat was not included in that total.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:26 AM   #44065
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I already owned the Helen Two Wheel's duffel ($75) and the yellow kayak bag ($30) when I suffered the brain phart and got into this dual sport thing.

Counting shipping I have right at $450 in the following:
- Happy Trails racks for soft bags
- Wolfman Summit Saddlebags
- Wolfman Enduro Tank Bag
- Generic ATV Panniers

And since the bike does not come with one from the factory I suppose it would be appropriate to include the Suzuki tail rack. Tack on another $80.

That comes to a total of $635 for luggage and storage.



No doubt there are less expensive ways to do it but for my purposes having tough, tested equipment was worth it the ride.

PS: the hat was not included in that total.
I have a tail rack $120, Ortlieb dry duffle $85, Ebay soft saddle bag supports-$90- bought on flea market from inmate, Cortech soft saddle bags $40- bought used from local motorcycle store. I just recently added a med sized Pelican case $40 that I made a mount for my tail rack. Works good for commuting if you need to lock up wallet phone or gps.

So I have a total of $375 including my Pelican case. Not too shabby I don't think.

If any of you guys have local MC dealers check them for luggage. I walked in and asked if they had had any bikes traded that still had saddle bags. They looked in a closet and found a pair of cortech sport saddles that looke dbrand new. All straps included. Gave them $40 cash and had some new luggage!
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:33 AM   #44066
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I won't use hard bags that don't come off in a crash, too many friends and friends of friends over the years have broken a leg because of them. I know if you keep your feet on the pegs and ride the crash to the ground you shouldn't get hurt. I just have perfected that yet.
agreed. that's why i'm big fan of giantloop on the dr.
i do have pelicans on my strom but use a dry duffel on the rear.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:34 AM   #44067
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wow. i like to travel light compared to you.
not a fan of all the extra weight, so i leave alot at home.

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I already owned the Helen Two Wheel's duffel ($75) and the yellow kayak bag ($30) when I suffered the brain phart and got into this dual sport thing.

Counting shipping I have right at $450 in the following:
- Happy Trails racks for soft bags
- Wolfman Summit Saddlebags
- Wolfman Enduro Tank Bag
- Generic ATV Panniers

And since the bike does not come with one from the factory I suppose it would be appropriate to include the Suzuki tail rack. Tack on another $80.

That comes to a total of $635 for luggage and storage.



No doubt there are less expensive ways to do it but for my purposes having tough, tested equipment was worth it the ride.

PS: the hat was not included in that total.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:49 AM   #44068
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DR650 Cracked engine case

I bought a 2000 DR650 in Santiago a couple of weeks ago (At least I think that is the year). In any event the boss that holds one of the starter gears cracked off both on the valve cover, and on the engine block. I am trying to source parts from the states off ebay as I write this.

Here is the current situation. For aproximatley $70 a motorcycle shop in Talca can disaasemble and reassemble the motor provided I supply a set of Gaskets. Once disaasembled I can then take the left side engine case to a welding shop where they can repair the broekn boss.

I know this solution would not be as good as getting brand new cases but it is far chepaer, and less time consuming. If I did this, I would also plan on doing the torque limiting Starter clutch mod. Can anyone explain to me exactly what this is and how it is done. From what I could gleam on the internet an extra, back torque limiting gear, is added to the two gears of the starter clutch mechanism on a 1998-1999 and some 2000 models. Is this simply a drop in item or do other components need to be modified?

Any advice would be appreciated
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:07 AM   #44069
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I bought a 2000 DR650 in Santiago a couple of weeks ago (At least I think that is the year). In any event the boss that holds one of the starter gears cracked off both on the valve cover, and on the engine block. I am trying to source parts from the states off ebay as I write this.

Here is the current situation. For aproximatley $70 a motorcycle shop in Talca can disaasemble and reassemble the motor provided I supply a set of Gaskets. Once disaasembled I can then take the left side engine case to a welding shop where they can repair the broekn boss.

I know this solution would not be as good as getting brand new cases but it is far chepaer, and less time consuming. If I did this, I would also plan on doing the torque limiting Starter clutch mod. Can anyone explain to me exactly what this is and how it is done. From what I could gleam on the internet an extra, back torque limiting gear, is added to the two gears of the starter clutch mechanism on a 1998-1999 and some 2000 models. Is this simply a drop in item or do other components need to be modified?

Any advice would be appreciated

Call Kientech or Procycle. They are both very knowledgeable and have more experiance with the DR than any other single source out there IMO.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:30 AM   #44070
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I bought a 2000 DR650 in Santiago a couple of weeks ago (At least I think that is the year). In any event the boss that holds one of the starter gears cracked off both on the valve cover, and on the engine block. I am trying to source parts from the states off ebay as I write this.

Here is the current situation. For aproximatley $70 a motorcycle shop in Talca can disaasemble and reassemble the motor provided I supply a set of Gaskets. Once disaasembled I can then take the left side engine case to a welding shop where they can repair the broekn boss.

I know this solution would not be as good as getting brand new cases but it is far chepaer, and less time consuming. If I did this, I would also plan on doing the torque limiting Starter clutch mod. Can anyone explain to me exactly what this is and how it is done. From what I could gleam on the internet an extra, back torque limiting gear, is added to the two gears of the starter clutch mechanism on a 1998-1999 and some 2000 models. Is this simply a drop in item or do other components need to be modified?

Any advice would be appreciated
I don't think I have heard of many people getting the bosses welded successfully. It is definitely a way cheaper option however so you don't have much too lose by trying it out.

The "mod" just means you change the parts to the newer/older ones, they will drop right in. IIRC it's the starter limiter, a toothed gear, a pin, and two bushings with washers. The Kientech site has a pic but is not complete.
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