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Old 03-29-2011, 07:39 PM   #46621
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Are you kidding me? How do folks get this kind of mileage? I am on an '05 stock everything and average 46 mpg. Yesterday I stalled at a light (after filtering to the front...wasn't fun) with 106 miles on the trip-o- and needed to hit reserve!! Am I riding that aggressively, or do I need to start "tuning" my air/fuel? I dread this as I have never done it before. I assume I am a little rich as I have never (almost 2 years) had to use the choke.
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Thanks...this helps...a little. :)

Been wanting the remove the snorkel...I think I will start there and see what happens. Then maybe mess with the fuel screw...?

If your jetting is stock it will be lean. They do this from the factory in order to pass emissions. By removing the snorkel you will be leaning it out even more which can cause serious engine problems. Do you clean your air filter regularly? A dirty air filter would explain both your poor mileage and the lack of choke on starts. If you are going to remove the snorkel (after making sure the filter is clean and oiled) you will need to raise the needle by either shimming it with a small washer or buying an adjustable needle. The fuel screw only tunes your idle and the first part of the throttle opening. The needle controls the mid range throttle opening and the main controls wide open flow (to my understanding anyway). This is assuming that you jetting is all stock. If you aren't sure then you will need to open her up and check before making any changes or you will be guessing at everything.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:37 PM   #46622
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Zuki mounted it about an inch too low. On a full compression g-load under power (top of the chain is under tension), the straight line from the top of the front and rear sprockets runs through the roller; taking it off eventually. Sometimes. If it's still there, it's probably safe to ride home.

Nothing has prepared you for the stock DR seat.

This isn't a BMW, if you're picking it up in North America, bring your helmet. Otherwise, you'll need a boat. 'Cept for the seat, now that's gonna hurt.

Thanks for the info.

I'm picking it up in Arizona, riding it home to CA.

Don't ride without a helmet, pretty much an ATGATT kinda guy.

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Old 03-29-2011, 08:44 PM   #46623
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I like the T-63 rear tire, I run it with the Pireilli MT 21 front.

Tool kits, the best way to figure out what tools to carry is to work on the bike and take note of the tools you use, those are the ones to pack.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:50 PM   #46624
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When looking at a used DR besides what the others suggested, I would look at the two chain adjusters....... If they are maxed out you may need new chain/sprokets. Are the sproket teeth curved forward?........another indication of chain/sproket wear.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:51 PM   #46625
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Sounds like John is doing a fly-n-ride and wanted to show up with the tools to get home.

BMW's can't go that far without tools, DR's doit alla time. J/K

If it breaks, all he has to do is post here; someone will pick him up.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:57 PM   #46626
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Thanks for the info.

I'm picking it up in Arizona, riding it home to CA.

Don't ride without a helmet, pretty much an ATGATT kinda guy.

John E
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You will need a better seat, You might just as well get the seat first and take it along to pick up the new bike.
Or at the very least bring some kind of seat pad with you.

For me the stock seat had me in pain in less than an hour.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:20 PM   #46627
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Are you kidding me? How do folks get this kind of mileage? I am on an '05 stock everything and average 46 mpg. Yesterday I stalled at a light (after filtering to the front...wasn't fun) with 106 miles on the trip-o- and needed to hit reserve!! Am I riding that aggressively, or do I need to start "tuning" my air/fuel? I dread this as I have never done it before. I assume I am a little rich as I have never (almost 2 years) had to use the choke.
Sounds like your choke may be partially stuck closed (on). It's not uncommon to get some binding in the stock choke cable. Mine was sticky from new and hard to start, replaced it with a choke knob and all's well now.Maybe a dirty air filter, or low tire pressure too? Also if you're idling in heavy traffic, your economy will always be worse than constant highway miles.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:42 PM   #46628
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Tool kit

You can do the vast majority of maintenance with a 8,10, and 12mm socket/wrench, phillips screwdriver, and a set of metric allen wrenches. Put in a crescent wrench and a pair of needle nose pliers, wire ties, and electrical tape and you can practically rebuild the whole thing!

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Old 03-29-2011, 11:08 PM   #46629
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Thanks!

That's pretty much exactly what I needed to know.

Sounds like my standard toolkit oughta do just fine for now, I'll make up a new one just for the DR when I get it home.

Now about that seat...

I rode my Concours with a stock seat 1620 miles in just under 24 hours, is the DR seat really that bad? My route home is just over 420 miles on mostly 2 lane roads/highways and I figured on taking an entire day to do it, I don't have a problem stopping if needed.

I've learned to leave my ego at home, especially when riding a new to me bike on a longish ride. I bought my FJ1200 from a guy in New Mexico and rode it home, same thing with the BMW, picked it up in Oakland and rode it home the next day after ducking out of a rainstorm. But you guys obviously know a helluva lot more about the DR than I do so I'll take that under serious advisement.

I guess I could try and pick up an Airhawk or a sheepskin and take it with me.

I hate to buy a Corbin or something similar until I've had a chance to try the bike out first.

Hmmm...

P.S. thanks again for the nice welcome, I've been reading some RR's since I signed up here, seems to be a pretty great group of people here. There really is something about this riding culture we're all a part of.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:25 PM   #46630
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For the trip home, pick up a Stearns ATV seat cover from Walmart for $14. Not the same as a custom seat, but it will get you home still able to walk at least. After that you can decide which way to go with an aftermarket seat.

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Old 03-29-2011, 11:30 PM   #46631
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That's pretty much exactly what I needed to know.

Sounds like my standard toolkit oughta do just fine for now, I'll make up a new one just for the DR when I get it home.

Now about that seat...

I rode my Concours with a stock seat 1620 miles in just under 24 hours, is the DR seat really that bad? My route home is just over 420 miles on mostly 2 lane roads/highways and I figured on taking an entire day to do it, I don't have a problem stopping if needed.

I've learned to leave my ego at home, especially when riding a new to me bike on a longish ride. I bought my FJ1200 from a guy in New Mexico and rode it home, same thing with the BMW, picked it up in Oakland and rode it home the next day after ducking out of a rainstorm. But you guys obviously know a helluva lot more about the DR than I do so I'll take that under serious advisement.

I guess I could try and pick up an Airhawk or a sheepskin and take it with me.

I hate to buy a Corbin or something similar until I've had a chance to try the bike out first. .
I agree with what 3dChief said... maybe start out on the stock seat, but plan a trip by a local Walmart for one of those seat covers. Once you get to experience the stock DR seat, you'll know by the time you get home that you want to get something else... then it's just a matter of deciding which one works for you.

OR maybe you have that unique one in a thousand butt that is fine with the stock seat plus the cover. Who knows. :)

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Old 03-29-2011, 11:59 PM   #46632
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Since you'll be riding long distances to get home, you could bring one of those decorative pillows the 'significant other' puts on the couch.
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:48 AM   #46633
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Just a quick note to say "thanks for the ride". I have sold the Dr650 and bought a TDM 900 so will stay a little in the mud.

Thanks for the tips and advice, I doubt many forums have such a wealth of knowledge with as many members happy to share that knowledge.

Cheers from NZ..... Home of the 2011 Rugby World Cup
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:51 AM   #46634
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Sounds like my standard toolkit oughta do just fine for now, I'll make up a new one just for the DR when I get it home.
Remember ... your tires have TUBES in them. Bring a 24mm wrench for the rear axle and 19mm (or is it 17mm?) wrench for the front. And of course ... Two Spare Tubes! A 17" and a 21" along with three tire irons and some skill on tire changing. The front is easy to change ... the rear? depends on which tire is mounted.
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Now about that seat...
I rode my Concours with a stock seat 1620 miles in just under 24 hours, is the DR seat really that bad?
In a word .... YES! A Connie is a Barka-lounger by comparison. The DR seat will cripple you. You'll have to stop every 100 miles or so and walk around for a while. A pad will help but the basic platform is very narrow .... and that is the problem.
But no worries ... you can make it easy in a day ... just take LONG breaks, stretch, drink water, relax, you will be fine. Have fun, ride safe!
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:18 AM   #46635
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Don't ya have a tah? How much rpms was at this speed? (70 mph = 112.5 kmh that's not too much for this bike i think?)
No it's not much will do 160kph [indicated] bog stock standard.
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