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Old 08-28-2011, 10:13 AM   #53686
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Got myself a DR 650 for my Morocco trip and been pulling it apart and putting back together checking every thing !!! i need a new chain and sprocket kit and the stock one is a 15/41 ....is it ? well thats whats on !!! Anyway i'll be riding down from SW France to Algeciras some 1500 km avoiding tolls bimmble around Morocco for a couple of weeks with as much off road as poss, and 1500 km back !!!
So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????

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Old 08-28-2011, 11:14 AM   #53687
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phil, i believe 15/42 is stock, so your gearing is a little taller. (~2.5%) i like a little taller w/a single-cylinder, but i think i am not in the majority here. bottom line, tho, is what *you* like.

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Old 08-28-2011, 12:51 PM   #53688
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Hi all
Got myself a DR 650 for my Morocco trip and been pulling it apart and putting back together checking every thing !!! i need a new chain and sprocket kit and the stock one is a 15/41 ....is it ? well thats whats on !!! Anyway i'll be riding down from SW France to Algeciras some 1500 km avoiding tolls bimmble around Morocco for a couple of weeks with as much off road as poss, and 1500 km back !!!
So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????

I think that I read on here that some of the Euro-spec DRs have a 15-41 setup. I personally like mine with a 14/42. The DR is happier when it spins 3000 rpm or better. YMMV.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:59 PM   #53689
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So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????
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15/41 is stock for Non-US bikes. It will be fine for your trip to Morocco and back but for off-roading a 14T countershaft sprocket will help you. Easy to switch between the 15T and the 14T. I run 15/45 (same as 14/42) most of the time (not much high speed highway) and can change to 14/45 or 16/45 depending on the terrain (but, this needs a couple more links in the chain.)

Bonne chance pour ton voyage.

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Old 08-28-2011, 01:29 PM   #53690
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phil, i believe 15/42 is stock, so your gearing is a little taller. (~2.5%) i like a little taller w/a single-cylinder, but i think i am not in the majority here. bottom line, tho, is what *you* like.

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15/41 Is stock gearing on NZ bikes.

I find it great on the seal but it is a bit tall on the slow or loose stuff, a 14 tooth front is an easy swap when you get to Morocco.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:00 PM   #53691
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15/41 Is stock gearing on NZ bikes.

I find it great on the seal but it is a bit tall on the slow or loose stuff, a 14 tooth front is an easy swap when you get to Morocco.
all these comments explain why i prefer the taller gearing - my bike is set up as a motard, and 99% or more of its use will be on pavement...

i had it in the shop last year for some work, right after i bought it; then i got unexpectedly shipped overseas for a year, before the bike was complete. now, i have yust returned, and i should have the bike next week - i cannot even remember what sprockets i have going into it - either 15/41, 16/42, or 16/41. i cannot wait to get on it; i have a bunch of stuff done to it, which i will post about later, when i get the bike. (exh/carb/susp.) meanwhile, i have to settle for my hot-rodded '95 buell s2, or my wintage '78 ducati darmah. it's not *too* bad...

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:16 PM   #53692
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Cheers for the feed back guys
@ Andy, Looks like you're right , why do they FCUK with them aint tarmac the same all over?
@ Alonzo and Eddie 14 dirt and 15 tar sounds like the way to go ,cheers

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:24 PM   #53693
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[QUOTE=PHILinFRANCE;16730635]Hi all
Got myself a DR 650 for my Morocco trip and been pulling it apart and putting back together checking every thing !!! i need a new chain and sprocket kit and the stock one is a 15/41 ....is it ? well thats whats on !!! Anyway i'll be riding down from SW France to Algeciras some 1500 km avoiding tolls bimmble around Morocco for a couple of weeks with as much off road as poss, and 1500 km back !!!
So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????


I run a 14/45 which is just right around town and good on the trails. I don't like sustained runs at 70mph (112k) or above although it is happy to zoom up there.
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:41 PM   #53694
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Cheers for the feed back guys
@ Andy, Looks like you're right , why do they FCUK with them aint tarmac the same all over?
In terms of gearing yeah you'd think so. Given that the US seems to be the odd country out it's probably some federal mandate or something? NZ probably has a lot more hills per sq/m than most of the US but if anything you'd think they would gear the bikes the other way round because of it.

Our tarmac is not the same as most countries. It's all black and relatively smooth but NZ's tends to use a coarser chip than most countries, that doesn't impact gearing though.
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:47 PM   #53695
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In terms of gearing yeah you'd think so. Given that the US seems to be the odd country out it's probably some federal mandate or something? NZ probably has a lot more hills per sq/m than most of the US but if anything you'd think they would gear the bikes the other way round because of it.

Our tarmac is not the same as most countries. It's all black and relatively smooth but NZ's tends to use a coarser chip than most countries, that doesn't impact gearing though.
One tooth in the back is only 100 rpm. I have no idea why it'd be different, but oh well.

When I changed my chain back around 10k miles (I'm at almost 18k now), I went to a 112-link chain and run 16/46 (the equivalent of 15/43). When I want more gearing, I pop on a 15T. If I wanna go even lower, I can do a 14T and not worry about a 13T curving the chain too tight.

It's really easy to change the front sprocket on these bikes, so why not keep a couple around?

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:55 PM   #53696
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It's really easy to change the front sprocket on these bikes, so why not keep a couple around?

Rob
I do and wrote the snail cam adjustment numbers for each front sprocket on top of the swing arm with a marker pen.
A sprocket swap and chain adjustment to suit takes little more than five minutes.
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:27 PM   #53697
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new DR today!


Did a 24 mile break-in run then did an oil change at sunset...


Oil is pretty discolored...


And had this crud hanging out after draining all the oil...


It looks to be loose gasket sealing material.


And more crud on the filter...


And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)


Sure glad I changed it right away!

Also the chain was too loose with a good 2-inches of play. I tightened it up a smidge for a bit more than 1-inch play. Axle nut seemed a bit too tight (had to use a mallet on the Suzi tool kit cheater bar to loosen it).

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Congrats!

Good call on the oil change. I don't think the gasket material will be an issue, a few others have noted similar debris on their fist oil change with no ill effects long term. Might be worth keeping a log of all your maintenance though (with your pics) if anything comes of it -- but I doubt it will be an issue.

Hard to know who messed up on the drain plug gasket (factory or dealership), but my money is on the dealership. Just another example of why YOU should maintain your bike and not the dealership IMO.

Now go get a skid plate for it and Enjoy!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:34 PM   #53698
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new DR today!


Did a 24 mile break-in run then did an oil change at sunset...


Oil is pretty discolored...


And had this crud hanging out after draining all the oil...


It looks to be loose gasket sealing material.


And more crud on the filter...


And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)


Sure glad I changed it right away!

Also the chain was too loose with a good 2-inches of play. I tightened it up a smidge for a bit more than 1-inch play. Axle nut seemed a bit too tight (had to use a mallet on the Suzi tool kit cheater bar to loosen it).

First ride impression:
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I LOVE THIS BIKE!

Congrats on your new DR.

To me it looks like the drain plug seal in on the drain plug in your picture. The drain plug seal is more like a spark plug style gasket (crush washer)...might not be what you were expecting to see. Same seal as the timing inspection hole plug. It sounds like you need some better tools to maintain the bike with. Those tools in the tool kit work in a pinch, but there are much better tools to do routine maintenance with. Makes life a lot easier too.

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Old 08-28-2011, 05:35 PM   #53699
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And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)
The stock washer is alloy and can jam onto the plug making it hard to see...fwiw.
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:07 PM   #53700
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Got myself a DR 650 for my Morocco trip and been pulling it apart and putting back together checking every thing !!! i need a new chain and sprocket kit and the stock one is a 15/41 ....is it ? well thats whats on !!! Anyway i'll be riding down from SW France to Algeciras some 1500 km avoiding tolls bimmble around Morocco for a couple of weeks with as much off road as poss, and 1500 km back !!!
So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????

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