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Old 08-28-2011, 03:41 PM   #53686
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Cheers for the feed back guys
@ Andy, Looks like you're right , why do they FCUK with them aint tarmac the same all over?
In terms of gearing yeah you'd think so. Given that the US seems to be the odd country out it's probably some federal mandate or something? NZ probably has a lot more hills per sq/m than most of the US but if anything you'd think they would gear the bikes the other way round because of it.

Our tarmac is not the same as most countries. It's all black and relatively smooth but NZ's tends to use a coarser chip than most countries, that doesn't impact gearing though.
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:47 PM   #53687
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In terms of gearing yeah you'd think so. Given that the US seems to be the odd country out it's probably some federal mandate or something? NZ probably has a lot more hills per sq/m than most of the US but if anything you'd think they would gear the bikes the other way round because of it.

Our tarmac is not the same as most countries. It's all black and relatively smooth but NZ's tends to use a coarser chip than most countries, that doesn't impact gearing though.
One tooth in the back is only 100 rpm. I have no idea why it'd be different, but oh well.

When I changed my chain back around 10k miles (I'm at almost 18k now), I went to a 112-link chain and run 16/46 (the equivalent of 15/43). When I want more gearing, I pop on a 15T. If I wanna go even lower, I can do a 14T and not worry about a 13T curving the chain too tight.

It's really easy to change the front sprocket on these bikes, so why not keep a couple around?

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Old 08-28-2011, 03:55 PM   #53688
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It's really easy to change the front sprocket on these bikes, so why not keep a couple around?

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I do and wrote the snail cam adjustment numbers for each front sprocket on top of the swing arm with a marker pen.
A sprocket swap and chain adjustment to suit takes little more than five minutes.
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:27 PM   #53689
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new DR today!


Did a 24 mile break-in run then did an oil change at sunset...


Oil is pretty discolored...


And had this crud hanging out after draining all the oil...


It looks to be loose gasket sealing material.


And more crud on the filter...


And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)


Sure glad I changed it right away!

Also the chain was too loose with a good 2-inches of play. I tightened it up a smidge for a bit more than 1-inch play. Axle nut seemed a bit too tight (had to use a mallet on the Suzi tool kit cheater bar to loosen it).

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Congrats!

Good call on the oil change. I don't think the gasket material will be an issue, a few others have noted similar debris on their fist oil change with no ill effects long term. Might be worth keeping a log of all your maintenance though (with your pics) if anything comes of it -- but I doubt it will be an issue.

Hard to know who messed up on the drain plug gasket (factory or dealership), but my money is on the dealership. Just another example of why YOU should maintain your bike and not the dealership IMO.

Now go get a skid plate for it and Enjoy!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:34 PM   #53690
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new DR today!


Did a 24 mile break-in run then did an oil change at sunset...


Oil is pretty discolored...


And had this crud hanging out after draining all the oil...


It looks to be loose gasket sealing material.


And more crud on the filter...


And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)


Sure glad I changed it right away!

Also the chain was too loose with a good 2-inches of play. I tightened it up a smidge for a bit more than 1-inch play. Axle nut seemed a bit too tight (had to use a mallet on the Suzi tool kit cheater bar to loosen it).

First ride impression:
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I LOVE THIS BIKE!

Congrats on your new DR.

To me it looks like the drain plug seal in on the drain plug in your picture. The drain plug seal is more like a spark plug style gasket (crush washer)...might not be what you were expecting to see. Same seal as the timing inspection hole plug. It sounds like you need some better tools to maintain the bike with. Those tools in the tool kit work in a pinch, but there are much better tools to do routine maintenance with. Makes life a lot easier too.

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:35 PM   #53691
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And there was no drain plug washer! (Could feel this when untightening.)
The stock washer is alloy and can jam onto the plug making it hard to see...fwiw.
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:07 PM   #53692
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Hi all
Got myself a DR 650 for my Morocco trip and been pulling it apart and putting back together checking every thing !!! i need a new chain and sprocket kit and the stock one is a 15/41 ....is it ? well thats whats on !!! Anyway i'll be riding down from SW France to Algeciras some 1500 km avoiding tolls bimmble around Morocco for a couple of weeks with as much off road as poss, and 1500 km back !!!
So would i be ok running on 15/41 or can anyone suggest another set up ????

Here she is
That bike has to have a skidplate.
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:47 PM   #53693
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Hard to know who messed up on the drain plug gasket (factory or dealership), but my money is on the dealership. Just another example of why YOU should maintain your bike and not the dealership IMO.
Why would the dealership have had the drain plug out on a new bike ?
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:31 PM   #53694
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LED Tail Light

Wanted to do something a little different so decided to try a go at putting on a sequential LED tail light from a Yamaha R6 on the DR650. Still haven't decided whether to install a DRZ250 tail in replacement of the stock tail or possibly just put a plate over the stock tail light mount.

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Old 08-28-2011, 06:43 PM   #53695
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clean your air filter

Air filter did not look very dirty. Replaced FMF Q2 with a GSXR 750 pipe . Bike ran OK no real difference between the two pipes. I could not dial in the idle or WOT . Change the main jet from 170 to 155 (my 160 was in my other DR650) no difference in performance . Changed 155 main to a 160 main , no difference in performance . I cleaned the air filter, My raped ape is back . I will clean my air filter . I will clean my air filter . I will clean my air filter . I will clean my air filter . I love my DR's.

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Old 08-28-2011, 07:19 PM   #53696
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Wanted to do something a little different so decided to try a go at putting on a sequential LED tail light from a Yamaha R6 on the DR650. Still haven't decided whether to install a DRZ250 tail in replacement of the stock tail or possibly just put a plate over the stock tail light mount.

That is sweet!
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Old 08-28-2011, 07:36 PM   #53697
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Wanted to do something a little different so decided to try a go at putting on a sequential LED tail light from a Yamaha R6 on the DR650. Still haven't decided whether to install a DRZ250 tail in replacement of the stock tail or possibly just put a plate over the stock tail light mount.
Thats Sweet. What did you have to do to wire that up?
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Old 08-28-2011, 07:43 PM   #53698
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Thats Sweet. What did you have to do to wire that up?
Spliced it into the tail light wiring AND the the turn signal wiring. Made my own bracket for the tail light using a 90* Aluminum stock, couple 35mm long 7mm 1.0 pitch bolts, some washers/nuts as well.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:20 PM   #53699
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Why would the dealership have had the drain plug out on a new bike ?
I have no idea. I was just speculating, because the dealerships as far as I know do the final assembly and setup. And usually thats where things can go wrong, depending on the skill level of that person. I assume they are shipped without oil in them. Maybe the setup guy at the dealership overfilled it and had to correct it. Or maybe they are shipped with the oil already in and as part of the final inspection the setup guy felt it was wrong.

Maybe I am a little quick to throw the blame at the dealership -- but my opinions are based in my experience in dealing with them. And generally dealerships (motorcycle dealers in particular) have left me with little confidence in their expertise. Just my 2cents.

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Old 08-28-2011, 08:22 PM   #53700
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Engines are shipped with oil from factory. But i agree on most dealer wrenches incompitence
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