ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-09-2011, 06:09 PM   #54241
doug s.
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: md
Oddometer: 1,348
Quote:
Originally Posted by danbeck View Post
Does anyone have a brand / product name for the high temp silicone they used to glue their Procycle engine case guards on with? Having a bit of strife finding one to do it. And how did you clamp them while they dried? I'm not sure if the masking tape idea will be enough. Or maybe it is?
many thanks,
Dan
this should do it:
http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...one_Gasket.htm


doug s.
doug s. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 06:24 PM   #54242
ADV8
Taumarunui..Darwin..
 
ADV8's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: North of Sydney.
Oddometer: 2,364
Quote:
Originally Posted by danbeck View Post
Does anyone have a brand / product name for the high temp silicone they used to glue their Procycle engine case guards on with? Having a bit of strife finding one to do it. And how did you clamp them while they dried? I'm not sure if the masking tape idea will be enough. Or maybe it is?
many thanks,
Dan
It does not have to be high temp.
If you punch or cut a few small rubber discs and silicone those to the engine cover first you will get a uniform thickness... fwiw.
ADV8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 06:49 PM   #54243
Adv Grifter
on the road o'dreams
 
Adv Grifter's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Passing ADV Stalkers in California
Oddometer: 6,128
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADV8 View Post
Depends how you were doing it.
If you simply put the clamp over the tyre/tire and wind it in it will in most cases just make the sidewall's touch and the beads can still be stuck fast.

There are various bead breakers on the market and I had looked at them.
In the end I settled for a small F Clamp which would do up to the 150 rear on the SM wheel set.
All I do is use a small piece of timber around 2 inches wide by 5/8 or so and maybe a foot long.
I lay it on the wheel and tie it off to the spokes so it has a overhang beyond the lip of the wheel.
The clamp is put over the tyre with the foot on the sidewall and as close to the rim edge as possible.
The pad of the threaded end is placed on the end of the timber and because it is beyond the rim edge the clamp is not on any angle.
The timber isolates the clamps movement,it can only act on the foot side.
Wind the clamp and the foot draws the tyre in to the point if you wanted it could be pulled right into the dished centre.



The clamp is quite light but I have considered drilling holes in it with a cobalt drill and cutting the end down to the minimum but haven't bothered yet..... if I had my mill and lathe available I would replicate something similar in 7000 series alloy.
Stating the obvious but any solo rides dictate being self efficient.
Fixing punctures needs to be a formality,a PITA but still a easy repair for peace of mind.
The prop stand is no different,a simple alloy tube that holds the front or rear off the ground,simple and robust not to mention cheap as chips.
Excellent! Great explanation on how to properly use the F clamp. (we call that a C clamp! ) I love the Alu idea ... mine is a steel lump I found at a Flea Market for $6. Heavy and inconvenient ... but as you say ... Peace of mind when solo on the road.
Adv Grifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 07:05 PM   #54244
sagedrifter
Southern Explorer
 
sagedrifter's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Location: Jacksonville, Alabama
Oddometer: 1,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by danbeck View Post
Does anyone have a brand / product name for the high temp silicone they used to glue their Procycle engine case guards on with? Having a bit of strife finding one to do it. And how did you clamp them while they dried? I'm not sure if the masking tape idea will be enough. Or maybe it is?
many thanks,
Dan
My guards have been on for over 15,000 miles now. I just used a tube of clear 100% Silicone door and window caulk and put it on thick, smoothing the excess off with a wet rag and my fingers. I held it in place over night with masking tape. You don't need any special caulk etc..

I also have the AMP oil filter cover siliconed on.... Works fine. Like the others said, put it on with a generous amount of sealant or caulk. Just "snug" the suckers on gently and hold them in position with tape. You do not want to squeeze the cushion space out. The caulk thickness effects the amount of "cushion"...
sagedrifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 07:08 PM   #54245
BergDonk
Beastly Adventurer
 
BergDonk's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Location: Snowy Mountains Oz
Oddometer: 3,591
FWIW
F Clamp - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-clamp
C Clamp - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-clamp
__________________
shed time IS quality time
BergDonk's DR650 BergDonk's XT1200Z
BergDonk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 07:27 PM   #54246
danbeck
Adventurer
 
danbeck's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Rockhampton
Oddometer: 99
Thumb Guards

Many thanks for the info everyone. I'll grab some permatex and glue them on this afternoon. Not much left to do on the bike now, as I've decided not to mess with the engine/ carb exhaust. Well not yet anyway
__________________
2008 KTM 200
2010 DR 650
danbeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:11 PM   #54247
SprintST
Gnarly Adventurer
 
SprintST's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Ottawa Ontario mailing address
Oddometer: 208
A little confusion on the Permatex web site

When I was about to put my guards on I was leery about using the wrong product and returned a tube of the Red High Temp Silicone Gasket Maker #27B I had purchased. Was concerned for some reason that if it was the wrong product and I had to remove it that it would be a freakin' mess. Permatex seems to produce several Red High Temp RTV silicone products.

#27B is listed as a gasket maker. http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...one_Gasket.htm

#26B is listed as a gasket. http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...one_Gasket.htm

#26BR is listed as a Silicone Gasket but I have a tube sitting in front of me this very moment and it reads "Red High Temp Silicone Adhesive Sealant".

26BR is what I used and it turned out beautifully. I just used the same blue painters tape as MotoDavid. Once it gets stuck on it doesn't budge much. The tape in just insurance. Next time the oil gets changed the AMP cover will get the same treatment, even though I probably won't need it with the new TCI skid plate that will be arriving soon :)
__________________
"Let us never forget those who can't remember" [author unknown]
SprintST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:21 PM   #54248
procycle
Beastly Adventurer
 
procycle's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Center of the DR650 universe
Oddometer: 2,310
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADV8 View Post
It does not have to be high temp.
If you punch or cut a few small rubber discs and silicone those to the engine cover first you will get a uniform thickness... fwiw.
Right. It doesn't have to be hi-temp. The reason we recommend the hi-temp stuff is in my experience it sticks better and is significantly stronger than the plain stuff. That said, the plain stuff will be perfectly adequate
__________________
Clarke's second law of Egodynamics: "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." - Jasper Fforde
www.procycle.us - Everything for your DR650 and lots of other great stuff!
DR900 Big Bore Stroker buildup
TurboDiesel Corvette - go to the end to start at the beginning
procycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:24 PM   #54249
SprintST
Gnarly Adventurer
 
SprintST's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Ottawa Ontario mailing address
Oddometer: 208
Yup, I feel a little foolish now having run all over town for the one that said "Adhesive Sealant"
__________________
"Let us never forget those who can't remember" [author unknown]
SprintST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 09:00 PM   #54250
ER70S-2
Beastly Adventurer
 
ER70S-2's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: SE Denver-ish
Oddometer: 6,469
Pics Added

For those interested, I added pics to my "I had 3 flats today" thread (for the voyeurs) and some comments. Including the use of 3 tire irons to break the bead.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720492
__________________
2004 DR650: 62,605 miles
2013 WR250R

SUZUKI DR650SE INFORMATION INDEX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie View Post
"BTW, I don't do style. It's a dirt bike, not some girlie dress-up thing." -
ER70S-2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 11:42 PM   #54251
Thanas
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Arnhem
Oddometer: 75
A technique i,ve also used on my previous bike when changing tires when breaking the bead.

Cut the tire along the length, all around, so you end up with a left and right side. Put one half over the other. Put the wheel on the ground, get a shovel en stick that along the rim edge. Jump on the shovel. POP.









Cutting the tire you need a VERY sharp knife and a very used tire. Off course i would not recommend this if you are planning on just installing a new tube, hehe.

Greets,
Thanas
__________________
Suzuki DR 650 SE 2006
Thanas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 11:52 PM   #54252
ADV8
Taumarunui..Darwin..
 
ADV8's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: North of Sydney.
Oddometer: 2,364
Is that a TL1000 rear wheel ? (TLS perhaps)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanas View Post


ADV8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 12:20 AM   #54253
NordieBoy
Armature speller
 
NordieBoy's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Kiwiland
Oddometer: 7,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanas View Post
A technique i,ve also used on my previous bike when changing tires when breaking the bead.

Cut the tire along the length, all around, so you end up with a left and right side. Put one half over the other. Put the wheel on the ground, get a shovel en stick that along the rim edge. Jump on the shovel. POP.
Also stuffs the tube
NordieBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 01:59 AM   #54254
Thanas
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Arnhem
Oddometer: 75
Indeed a rear wheel of a TL 1000 S. Replacing that tire was easy peasy.

I might just replace my tubes every time i change tires. And keep the old one for emergency. It's not neccesary to replace the tube every time, but what the heck. Is also a lot easier when you have to take the old tire off, without having to think about keeping the tube intact.

The tires i have now are Heidenau K60 Scout
90/90-21 & 130/80-17
Including tubes and rimbands
For 185 euro on my doorstep (250 dollars) For me that is a very good deal. For the same money i would get a 180/55-17 Continental RoadAttack for my Ducati ST2, which has been sold 2 years back. So 2 tires and tubes for that money. Perfect.

Our bike group has some very different bike.

Husqvarna TE 610 with SM wheels
Yamaha TT-R 600 with SM wheels (he previously had a DR800)
Suzuki DR 650 SE (mine, one day to have SM wheels?)
Suzuki TL 1000 S
Yamaha FZ-6
Yamaha Thundercat 600
Aprilia SL 1000 Falco

Always fun to ride with friends.

Greets,
Thanas
__________________
Suzuki DR 650 SE 2006
Thanas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 02:57 AM   #54255
MarlboroMan
Adventurer
 
MarlboroMan's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Marlboro Country
Oddometer: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by danbeck View Post
Here ya go!
Took 10minutes, including running down town to grab some blue loctite. Didn't bolt the Rotopax plate on, will put it when I need it (sooner rather than later I hope) but it looks very easy as well. Very happy with the quality of both the bags and racks, looks like they will take some punishment.
Hey bro,do you have problem with the IMS tank fuel cap? Mine leak badly when riding off road.Anyway nice tank decal you have there.Mine locally done but its ruin when the fuel leak over it!!
MarlboroMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015