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Old 10-06-2011, 03:23 PM   #55141
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Very well written and accurate! I just didn't have time to say all that.

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I agree with Travel Guy. But it really depends on your travel style, your pace and energy level. IMHO, it takes more energy and effort to camp everyday. Cooking adds more effort/time, plus packing stove, fuel and food to cook. Riding days end up being shorter and morning take off times end up being later when camping/cooking. Setting up camp in the dark and rain not much fun.

But plenty do camping and love it ... and just build it in to the schedule. If you read reports over on Horizon's Unlimited you get many more Euro camping types there.

To me, camping can isolate you from local people and slows your integration of culture and language. Not camping means more time spent in towns, eating in restaurants. Good and bad aspects to this. Many aren't doing the ride to "integrate" with local culture, and just yell louder in English to be understood. For them, it's all about them and furthering their Adventure career (film, book, website) ... and collecting stickers on the panniers and stamps in passport are of paramount importance. These are the "achievers".

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Parts of Mexico are good camping ... but use caution in picking your spot. Beaches are NOT the best idea unless an organized pay site. Robberies are common.

Most of Cent. America is not camping friendly. Too dense, too many people, too many villages. Yes, it can be done ... you'll need to look around.

The best camping would be in Southern Chile and Argentina. I camped there in the 70's ... but had sent home my sleeping bag/gear long before that. (I borrowed camping gear in Argentina)

You can check out several great ride reports from travelers with differing ideas regards camping. Check out:
Jammin Jay (Camper)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...n+Global+South
Jay did a combo of Couch Surfing and Camping. Check out Jay's DR650 to see a very overloaded bike ... a lot of this is camping/cooking gear and food ... but he still made it over the Salar de Uyuni.

Misery Goat (some camping)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ht=Misery+Goat
Mark mostly stays in Hotels but camps on occasion when stuck up in the Andes.

Crashmaster (no camp)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ighlight=Fumar
No camping for Vince, IIRC, and Vince really knows how to travel light. Learn from him. Read his report. It's awesome.

Not camping means your planning has to be well worked out and should include a bail out plan, a place you can find a bed/food/shelter. In remote areas this can be dicey. Always carry enough water/snacks to survive a couple days with no food available.

Expect to eat what is available: I stayed with local families once in a while and was put to work. Once I was charged to grab (from cage), kill, clean and cook Qui in Ecuador and Peru'. Goat head soup was another local favorite, complete with eyeballs and jaw bone. Add to this various intestinal treats, Feet and other unmentionable innards. I ate it all ... and more. I nearly died of flu and dysentery on a couple occasions.

Some camp and cook just for this reason: local food will sometimes make you sick until your acclimate ... or not.

Not camping means better research and better local knowledge must be had. In my seven years in Latin America (on and off bikes) I learned to talk to locals for best and current info ... other travelers are a great source too of course.

Now, with the internet this is made easier ... and more reliable. I took extensive notes on everything I learned from other travelers along the way. But as always: CONSIDER THE SOURCE. Not everyone is in their right mind.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:42 PM   #55142
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Very well written and accurate! I just didn't have time to say all that.

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Never been South of Mexico, but it seems to me that food and lodging is cheap enough there to forget camping. Hell, if I'm going down there I want a cold cerveza and some company!
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:25 PM   #55143
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Went for a 4 day Fall ride- it's going to snow here soon, so I wanted to get up high before it does. Hope you guys don't mind if I post a Mini Ride Report featuring my DR here.

Jones Pass




Hmmm..........seems to be a little DR sized space there to the left. I'll never tell about the somewhat steep rocky road behind the sign, though. My lips are sealed.



Lots of beetle killed trees in Colorado now. Some of them are being harvested but most will just fall down and rot.



Colorado's Fall Colors- Spectacular to ride through.



Quiet lonely tracks.



Down low, nice and sunny...




Up high......the storm's moving in on Ptamigan Pass. Time to move on.




...........shu
With GPS and maps??Nice report and pictures anyway!!
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:01 PM   #55144
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:10 PM   #55145
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I'm currently in Des Moines Iowa, a thousand miles from home in Ontario Canada on my way to Tierre Del Feugo wondering how much I'll use the camping gear I'm hauling along. I enjoy camping but the stuff takes up awful lot of room, not to mention the weight. One of the reasons I changed to a DR from a KLR is the lighter weight. Now I find myself loading up on the poundage again.

Accommodation costs in the U.S. are manageable in the short term (kinda) but how much would I really be camping once outside of the States? Safety is a concern since I'm traveling alone. I'm hoping to do some couchsurfing along the way and stay in motels and hostels in the cheaper areas.

For those of you who have already done Central or South America and taken camping gear along would you do it again or forego the camping altogether?

So, do I leave the camp gear at a friends and just enjoy the ride a lot more or what? HELP? Would love to hear other peoples take on my dilemma.
Maybe you should leave the full-on camping gear (tent, cooking, etc.), but have a sleeping bag and tarp or bivvy for emergencies.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:12 PM   #55146
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Here is a couple of other shots of my delta romeo 650. Dont make fun of my dash it is not finished. Hope you like .
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:14 PM   #55147
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:16 PM   #55148
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:44 PM   #55149
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Decision made

After struggling with the issue of bringing camping gear I have decided to leave it in Des Moines with the option of either having it shipped when I reach Colombia or simply buying what I need there.

There's just too much stuff and I really want to be in a position to enjoy some off-road riding and not be too burdened down.

I may very well regret this but I can envision being pissed off carrying all the stuff as far as South America and not using it. Then again I'll be equally pissed when opportunities present themselves and I don't have the gear.

So there you go. Thanks to everyone for the valuable input. If I could comfortably bring it I would but that's not turning out to be the case.

Cheers all. Hope to see some of you on the road to wherever.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:52 PM   #55150
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Ebmott - nicely done. Looks like you're preparing for a journey.....or just don't like stopping for gas.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:53 PM   #55151
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Is the DR400 rear license plate bracket and turn signals a fit for the DR650? Looks like the DR400 kit includes smaller turn signals than factory?
Nope. Everything about the back end of the 400 is different from the 650.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:56 PM   #55152
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Is there any good write ups on DRZ400sm forks swaps out there??

I've been looking and can't much info.

Anyone know if the stems are the same, do they just bolt right up like the RM forks?? Any clearance issues with the forks and stock factory tank??
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:03 PM   #55153
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:11 PM   #55154
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My 2-cents.
Never been South of Mexico, but it seems to me that food and lodging is cheap enough there to forget camping. Hell, if I'm going down there I want a cold cerveza and some company!
This is true ... and I concur. Lodging is generally cheap ... but some folks just like camping out. You can find Cerveza and company all along the Gringo Trail; from Mexico to Argentina there are Gringo Ghettos ... and even Motoquero (motorcycle travelers) Ghettos in nearly every country. Places where foreigners hang out and party.

But some folks do their own thing and like to stay out in the countryside and away from "Gringos". I did a mix of both ... and most do the same. In every Gringo Ghetto you'll find lots of College students and Euro trash drifting down for a short vacation. This is fun ... for a while. But gets tiresome at times.

But the major flaw in your theory is that in very remote areas ... like the Andes of Northern Peru or parts of Bolivia ... there are places with hardly any towns and even fewer Hostels of any kind. Your best bet is asking around, find someone who will take in a boarder.

With good planning and no unplanned break downs you can avoid most of this ... but the remote areas truly are remote. Someone suggested taking a Bivi bag and super light down sleeping bag. Not a bad idea. I carried a Bivi bag.
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:53 PM   #55155
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Here is a couple of other shots of my delta romeo 650. Dont make fun of my dash it is not finished. Hope you like .
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