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Old 10-22-2011, 08:13 PM   #55936
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first of all you must be single if your parking in your living room. I remember those days.
I prefer to grind the nub out of the switch housing. Making sure to leave a small bit to bike the bar. I have drill a lot of bars and it is to much of a pain in bum to drill those holes and get it right. People might dis agree with me but i never had a problem. ANOTHER THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IS ROTATE YOUR BARS FORWARD A LITTLE BIT TO GET THEM LESS IN YOUR LAP AND GIVES YOU MORE LEVERAGE
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Awesome, thanks. Yeah Im 21 and still in college so I park my bike where I want lol.

I will probably end up doing that, especially since there are holes in them already (in the wrong places) from when they were on my dad's ZRX1100.

Ill also try rotating them forward a bit. The bike really needs higher bend bars for me (im 6'2) but these will do for free.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:54 PM   #55937
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Stand up, sit down, move around, fidget, swing your legs, put your feet up on the passenger pegs: I have a Sargent, it's not a lounge chair but it's tolerable. Get a small windshield to block some of the air trying to blow you back. Take a lot of breaks. Get off the interstate and ride where the riding is more interesting. 300-350 miles/ day is a decent day. Once you start throwing in dirt roads 250-300 miles can be an all day ride. But you can ride day after day that way.

75 mph for 10 hours, though, is not fun. What's the point?

.........shu
The reason I am asking is I have talked my son into going to Kilgore TX to do the Corrosion and cathartic protection class at Kilgore collage on the GI Bill he is a Iraq disabled Army Vet.
I work for the local gas company in AZ plan B get him on here, Plan A staying in TX and getting on with a oil Company.
Kilgore is 1190 miles form my house and I may tool over on the DR650 and see my two grand kids.

I have a small windshield and do some of the things you said, but I have found the more interesting the better.
I am also looking at the 2012 DL650 or 2012 Jeep
Wrangler Rubicon with the new V6 or use my many air miles. Paul
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:05 PM   #55938
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Hey folks. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on buying a DR that I can taste it....

Anyway I was hoping someone could do me a favour and measure the width of the stock seat? According to Corbin's web site their seat measures 11.5 inches wide....Is this quite a bit wider than stock?
Stocker is about 7" at the widest. So yes....plus the Corbin is scooped a little instead of crowned like the stock seat. The Corbin does take up a little inseam due to it's shape so my son's (with Corbin & lowered) gives me about the same amount of foot on the ground as mine (PC suspension kits & Seat Concepts)
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:10 PM   #55939
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Hey folks. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on buying a DR that I can taste it....

Anyway I was hoping someone could do me a favour and measure the width of the stock seat? According to Corbin's web site their seat measures 11.5 inches wide....Is this quite a bit wider than stock?
It's a bit wider than stock...'don't have the stock measurements handy though. I'd get a Corbin for a streetbike, but not a bike I might be picking up in the dirt several times a ride. There are much lighter options that are also all-day comfortable. Corbins are built on a heavy seatpan and are well-suited for road bikes, where weight is not a real issue.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:21 PM   #55940
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3 rd gear blow ups

Does anyone know if the 3rd gear blow ups are on stock gearing 15-42 , or if they are from lower gearing , 14 -45,48 ?
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:43 PM   #55941
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There are much lighter options that are also all-day comfortable.
Any examples Kommando? I know for a fact that the stocker isn't going to do it for me so a new more comfortable seat is a must for me...

And I think going with a well built WIDER seat is the way to go for me as well....I'm pretty big boned if you catch my drift
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:45 PM   #55942
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i have also wanted a lower fender for my 'tarded dr650. but, mine, w/usd forks from an rm, requires a different solution. i have seen pics of a yamaha r6 fender mounted to the mudguards of usd forks on a honda; this looks to be the way i will go, and i will do w/o the upper "sail" altogether.

but, one major point about how you spent your time and money last night - you wasted BOTH!!! here's a suggestion: do not EVER proxy bid on ebay. doing so yust drives up the price - folks will bid against your proxy bid, bumping the bid price higher and higher, until they either give up, or become high bidder. if your proxy bid ain't there, they will stop bidding a lot sooner. and, if you are really wanting something, there is no need to stay up half the night. simply use a snipe service - decide what is the most you are willing to pay, put the bid in w/the snipe service, and it will automatically put your bid in 5 seconds before the auction closes. that way you can be fast asleep when your bid goes in, and you don't have to worry about your bid being out there on ebay, for everyone to be bidding against. prolly exactly what the winner of those forks you were wanting did. either you win it or not, but you don't waste time & money in the process. here's the service i use - you don't even have to pay if you don't want, but even if you use their paying service, it's still way cheaper in the long run than proxy bidding on ebay:

http://www.gixen.com/index.php

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U.S.D forks/guard!Have a look at the Honda FMX650 set up.......dont know if that helps you!
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:56 PM   #55943
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I have read many posts on you guys riding 6,000 plus miles on a trip and doing 75 mph for 10 hours let me in on the secret.
I have the sergeant seat and HIway pegs and cant take it for more then a few hours.
I need to know!
Do I sit on broken glass or what.
A few tips:

- Work your way up to it. Start with 200-300 mile days, then 400-500, then 500-600, and so on. You wouldn't run an Ironman without training for it, would you? My DR still has the stock seat, and I just covered over 200 miles of mostly dirt roads on it today...2up, with tankbags and topbox. I could hop on again tomorrow and ride to another state and back. I'm used to it.

- Throttle lock and/or crampbuster for your throttle hand.

- Sort your carbing. If your bike surges at constant throttle, or lugs badly at low RPMs, it can grate on you trying to run a relaxed pace in a tall gear. If your DR pulls low RPMs nicely, and drones at constant throttle smoothly, mileage will rack up much easier.

- Sort your suspension for weight and usage. You want it plush yet controlled. A harsh or sloppy suspension will wear you out or even hurt you.

- Stay hydrated, and maintain good electrolyte and sugar levels. Take a hydration pouch. Alternate water and Gatorade. Eat a banana once in a while too. Towards the end of the day, try to drink some cherry juice. It's good for alleviating sore muscles the next day.

- Dress comfortably. If your helmet causes hotspots, your feet are always sweaty, your hands are always cold, the seat of your pants chafe, and your jacket bunches up in places, you're gonna fatigue quickly. Choose your layers carefully. Make sure your helmet fits your head properly before you buy it. Many swear by powder on the bum, padded cycling shorts, and a wicking T-shirt. I swear by versatile gear, like the Tourmaster Flex, Fieldsheer MotoMorph, or similar, jacket and pants. With waterproofing treatment on it, you can be comfortable in the same gear from riding in snow, through 50-70F rain, to above 90F with the sun beating down. Wear wicking socks and waterproof/breathable boots. Carry (an) appropriate set(s) of gloves for weather you're likely to encounter. If cold is a possibility, bring a wind-resistant neck-gaiter or balaclava.

- Lower your pillion pegs too. With the touring pegs on as well, you can then lean forward, lean back, and sit up straight. You may also want to avoid seats that slope fore or aft. Flat seats don't make you fight to stay in position.

- A lot of people swear by earplugs. I listen to the radio or MP3 player via my ScalaRider. I also talk a lot with my passenger.

- Get in decent shape if you're not already. Train your core and your flexibility. Many kicking martial arts (kung fu, karate, etc.) are good for this, and you can also learn a valuable skillset. Look for an affordable school that trains more for self-defense and overall fitness, rather than competitions or forms.

- Put good mirrors on your bikes. I swear by the FAR tall, foldable, KTM-style mirrors. They aren't the most durable, from what I hear, but they're lighter than stock and...I don't have to bob and weave to see around me. I can use mostly just peripheral vision while looking directly ahead, yet still see pretty much 360 around me. I can ride aware, yet still ride relaxed, which cuts down considerably on fatigue, especially in heavy traffic and/or having to stop/slow much for intersections while wondering if the drivers behind me are paying attention.

- Sort your bar position.

- Get a good shower and good rest at the end of the day.

- Figure out what still bothers you and why, then address it directly.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:58 PM   #55944
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I have read many posts on you guys riding 6,000 plus miles on a trip and doing 75 mph for 10 hours let me in on the secret.
I have the sergeant seat and HIway pegs and cant take it for more then a few hours. I need to know! Do I sit on broken glass or what.
A lot depends on how much you ride and what distances you're used to. Also, a big part of doing big miles is in your head. Your have to be "in the groove" to do 10 hour days. Our riding group frequently do 3 day weekend rides ... averaging about 250 miles a day, sometimes stretching to 350 or more on the last day getting home. Like from Death Valley to San Francisco. I have managed to do a solo ride doing Four, 400 mile days back to back. In Mexico I take it easy and try to knock off by 3pm and have a Beer or Margarita in my hand shortly thereafter. But I'm used to riding distance and have done it non-stop for the last 15 years.

Sometimes it can take a day or two to get yourself into that mental "Groove". State of mind is everything. A good seat is a must and a buzz free bike helps too. I can't recommend highway pegs ... they put your feet forward and place more weight on your spine ... and very bad thing.
If anything, you want to maintain a slight forward cant. Relax your hands and arms ... lean into wind. Change position, move around, stand occasionally ... whatever works.

Windshields are another question mark. If your shield is at all noisy then that will ruin any chance at stringing long days together. You'll be totally hammered after the first day from wind noise ... and will never recover.
(even with ear plugs ... which of course are a MUST)
I ride with NO shield and never without good ear plugs.

Longest day on DR650? 1000 miles in about 16 hours.

Being fit really helps. (I am not) Young guys do long days easily. I'm 63 and have to work at it. Here's how I do it:

1. Stretching and Breathing. (Yoga training) I stretch at every gas, pee or food break. Really comprehensive stretching ... I was a gymnast as a kid ... so I know how. Breathing brings back focus and energy. I take frequent breaks ... about every 150 to 180.

2. Food. The less the better, but a good breakfast helps. Add light, healthful snacks throughout the day. Big mid day meals will ruin your day.

3. Water. A major plus, especially in heat. This will erase fatigue, make your overnight recovery like magic. Water Water Water.

4. The mental part. That "Groove" thing. Can't help with this ... everyone is different. Get there anyway you can. I never take speed or smoke Pot or take any Drugs other than the ones that keep me alive.

Whatever you do ... pay attention ... and if you're nodding off.
Get Off The Bike ... Now! Tomorrow is another day!
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:03 PM   #55945
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Any examples Kommando? I know for a fact that the stocker isn't going to do it for me so a new more comfortable seat is a must for me...

And I think going with a well built WIDER seat is the way to go for me as well....I'm pretty big boned if you catch my drift
Renazco, Procycle, Mayer, Russell. There are a lot of people that just get a recover/refoam kit, or have an upholstery shop or cycle shop recover/refoam a seat for them. Seat Concepts offers a kit like mentioned. Check out the options on Procycle's website. The stocker is a 2x4, and I seem to be ok with it, but I can definitely see how it won't work for most.

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Old 10-22-2011, 10:24 PM   #55946
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The reason I am asking is I have talked my son into going to Kilgore TX to do the Corrosion and cathartic protection class at Kilgore collage on the GI Bill he is a Iraq disabled Army Vet.
I work for the local gas company in AZ plan B get him on here, Plan A staying in TX and getting on with a oil Company.
Kilgore is 1190 miles form my house and I may tool over on the DR650 and see my two grand kids.

I have a small windshield and do some of the things you said, but I have found the more interesting the better.
I am also looking at the 2012 DL650 or 2012 Jeep
Wrangler Rubicon with the new V6 or use my many air miles. Paul
Take a look at some of the other multi-cylinder bikes out there too...F800GS, Tiger 800s, etc. While a DR can surely do big distances, most Adv multis will do them more comfortably. If you're on a tight budget though, your existing DR will be almost impossible to beat for trail/slab versatility, with it's balance of power and economy.

Another thing I do when I'm riding solo is to stretch out on the DR by scooting way back on the flat seat ocasionally. This lets me stretch my legs, arms, and back, while sitting on a different part of my butt for a while. I also cut a bit of additional wind by using a tankbag and tank panniers.

A Jeep won't be nearly as economical...unless you can swap in a 4cyl turbo-diesel or something, but it'll be much better in nasty weather. How likely are you to encounter snow? If you want 4WD and decent MPG, there is also the Suzuki SX4 (with some 215/75R15 siped mudders).
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:35 PM   #55947
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Does anyone know if the 3rd gear blow ups are on stock gearing 15-42 , or if they are from lower gearing , 14 -45,48 ?
Doesn't matter,it's a metal problem in a small number of bikes.Going by the 3rd gear in front of me here,it's also a design fault,they 'shear' though the narrow point between were it's attaches to the shaft in the middle,and the low point in the gear teeth.Had the gear tooth been 'turned the width of a tooth,it might have had a huge difference,thicker metal.I'm no engineer,that's me just going by what i see!
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:44 PM   #55948
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Does anyone know if the 3rd gear blow ups are on stock gearing 15-42 , or if they are from lower gearing , 14 -45,48 ?
Some stock, some modded.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:50 PM   #55949
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Renazco, Procycle, Mayer, Russell. There are a lot of people that just get a recover/refoam kit, or have an upholstery shop or cycle shop recover/refoam a seat for them. Seat Concepts offers a kit like mentioned. Check out the options on Procycle's website. The stocker is a 2x4, and I seem to be ok with it, but I can definitely see how it won't work for most.

"Plush" is not a word that could be used to describe it.
On the subject of.......anyone tried one from Pak Meister?
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:54 PM   #55950
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Believe me,i know how to eBay,just got 'out snipered'!
U.S.D forks/guard!Have a look at the Honda FMX650 set up.......dont know if that helps you!
hey, glad you got the ebay thing down. but, your saying you stayed up half the night watching an auction made me think otherwise; it amazes me that there's still folks out there who actually try to manually snipe auctions, or proxy bid.

thanks for the honda fmx650 idea; i will have to check it out...

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