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Old 10-24-2011, 04:19 PM   #55951
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I'm finally getting around to reinstalling my upgraded rear shock after getting it back from Cogent and I am stumped. It's too late to call Rick tonight so thought I would check here for help before calling him in the morning.

Basically I can't get the shock's mounting holes to line up so that I can get the mounting bolts thru. It "seems" like the shock is 1/16-1/8" too long.

I can get the upper mounting bolt in OK. But I can't get the cushion lever, where the lower bolt goes, into a position where the holes line up with the shock's holes. I've got the cushion rods (dogbones) disconnected from the cushion lever so that the lever has maximum play. But in its lowest position (maximum distance between shock mounting points on the bike), the lever's mounting holes are above those of the shock.

What am I missing here? I consider myself a pretty good bike wrencher.

If somebody has a stock, Cogent or any other DR shock that is set up for standard ride height and not currently mounted on your bike, can I get you to measure the distance between mounting holes on the shock (center to center). My distance is 18-3/16" or about 462mm.

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Lifting the bike higher so the swingarm angles down more doesn't gain you enough room?

A stock shock is about 17-7/8"
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:41 PM   #55952
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Lifting the bike higher so the swingarm angles down more doesn't gain you enough room?
I disconnected the dogbones so the swingarm isn't a factor here. The spine of the cushion lever is against the frame in the max (lowest) position. I can't get anymore distance without getting out the grinder.

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A stock shock is about 17-7/8"
Hmmm. That's a 5/16" difference. I think that length would fit easy. I'll have to talk to Rick about this tomorrow. Thanks for the measurement.

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Old 10-24-2011, 04:58 PM   #55953
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My Ohlins is about 6 mm longer than stock and I had to do some trimming to get it it fit, 461.5mm long with 134mm of shaft travel.The stock DR shock is 455mm long with 128mm travel.

Seems like yours has been lengthened.

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Old 10-24-2011, 05:34 PM   #55954
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I'm finally getting around to reinstalling my upgraded rear shock after getting it back from Cogent and I am stumped. It's too late to call Rick tonight so thought I would check here for help before calling him in the morning.

Basically I can't get the shock's mounting holes to line up so that I can get the mounting bolts thru. It "seems" like the shock is 1/16-1/8" too long.

I can get the upper mounting bolt in OK. But I can't get the cushion lever, where the lower bolt goes, into a position where the holes line up with the shock's holes. I've got the cushion rods (dogbones) disconnected from the cushion lever so that the lever has maximum play. But in its lowest position (maximum distance between shock mounting points on the bike), the lever's mounting holes are above those of the shock.

What am I missing here? I consider myself a pretty good bike wrencher.

If somebody has a stock, Cogent or any other DR shock that is set up for standard ride height and not currently
mounted on your bike, can I get you to measure the distance between mounting holes on the shock (center to center). My distance is 18-3/16" or about 462mm.

Thanks.

Mount up the bottom end first, then shoehorn the top in. That's what I did.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:42 PM   #55955
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My Ohlins is about 6 mm longer than stock and I had to do some trimming to get it it fit, 461.5mm long with 134mm of shaft travel.The stock DR shock is 455mm long with 128mm travel.

Seems like yours has been lengthened.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=54

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Thanks Steve. Another confirmation my shock is too long.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:51 PM   #55956
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Mount up the bottom end first, then shoehorn the top in. That's what I did.
Already tried that. I've now got two confirmations my shock is longer than stock. Nothing short of somehow compressing the shock or grinding at frame and/or cushion lever will get a shock of this length on the bike. Since I specifically requested no change in ride height, I'd say I should expect normal installation. I'm sure Rick will make it right.
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:20 PM   #55957
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has anyone else tried the procycle 'fit it yourself' seat cover? I paid $179 for mine and its about a 8/10 for comfort, way, way, way better than stock, great anti slip nice n thick material. Im, going to be sitting on it for the next 2 months so Im hoping it stays comfy....
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:53 PM   #55958
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Anyone have any experience adjusting the throttle cable? I recently did a 500 mile day ride... Bike sat for 5 days thereafter and started right up yesterday. While riding I realized that the throttle does not retract to it's original position as easily as it used to. A little bit of stickiness. Checked the throttle cables near the carb and the one of them appeared loose. There is some play on the front side of the pulley. Any advice on adjusting this? (Unfortunately, I don't have the users manual or service manual in front of me right now).
I just adjusted the cables on mine after cleaning the carb. Each pull cable has a set of two nuts, one on top and one on the bottom. What I did was to loosen up the one on top to give me free play and ability to get it off the metal frame. Then, tighten or loose the nut on the bottom a bit and tighten the nut on top. Check for loose or too tight cable by twisting the throttle. Also, you may need to lubricate the cable. I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:53 PM   #55959
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I found some threads/ postings for replacing a broken starter switch and bought a SPST momentary pushbutton switch from Radio Shack (RS part # 275-0646).

Not knowing anything about electrical systems, is there a specific wire to post connection? Or does it not matter- I can connect either wire to either post on the switch. Before I solder the switch I am going to use jump cables to test out the connection. Thought I would ask as others for their experience with this.

Thanks in advance for the help.
I have been a long time lurker and occasional poster. Just wanting to say this is one of the greatest forum evaaaaa! instead of spending almost $100 to get a new right hand control, I put in a momentary switch and it works like a charm. thanks fellow dr lovers.
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:12 PM   #55960
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Gang the turnsignal relocator is selling well. would like to get enough of these out there to fund the "Type 2" which will be 4-bolt size with knockouts for switches and Accessory socket
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110753607721#ht_1261wt_1185

despite whats in the ebay listing, we do have some units in Australia and Canada if you'd prefer to buy from those inmates, and I can arrange ship wherever and just pass through the incremental cost... the worst part is that I have to get a human at the USPS to stamp the customs forms, and I don't live close to any of them... Just another excuse to kick the tires and light the fires
Go to https://sss-web.usps.com/cns/landing.do get signed up print your own labels/custom forms, pay for the postage online and have your mail man scan them as accepted and take them to the Post Office for you when he drops off your mail.

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Old 10-24-2011, 07:53 PM   #55961
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Lifting the bike higher so the swingarm angles down more doesn't gain you enough room?

A stock shock is about 17-7/8"
Plus ONE +++ That should do it. I've been in the same quandary the moving the swingarm made it work. (don't lose any needle bearings from the various cushion link bearings! They fall out!
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:06 PM   #55962
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Plus ONE +++ That should do it. I've been in the same quandary the moving the swingarm made it work. (don't lose any needle bearings from the various cushion link bearings! They fall out!
Interesting terminology being used in this discussion, 'cushion'

I've never heard it before in all these years, and I'm heading towards 60 fast

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Old 10-24-2011, 08:25 PM   #55963
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Interesting terminology being used in this discussion, 'cushion'

I've never heard it before in all these years, and I'm heading towards 60 fast

Steve
Steve,
Read the Suzuki manual, Cushion Link is their term. I'd never heard this term before either ... but you know how weird translations can be. I first saw this term first used in my Vstrom manual back in 2002. No idea how they came up with it.

What's funny is how every Japanese company has their own patented link system starting from back in the 70's. Anyone list the names of them ALL without going to Google? Don't cheat now!

Honda
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I know all but Yam's ... not even sure if KTM has one!
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:26 PM   #55964
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i see some of these tour pics of lunch and wonder how much more can you go after that meal? big old greasy burger, fries and white bread bun...and you wonder why your burnt out in the 2nd 1/2 of the day?

i like a solid breakfast and then a small healthy lunch and then a average dinner.


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A lot depends on how much you ride and what distances you're used to. Also, a big part of doing big miles is in your head. Your have to be "in the groove" to do 10 hour days. Our riding group frequently do 3 day weekend rides ... averaging about 250 miles a day, sometimes stretching to 350 or more on the last day getting home. Like from Death Valley to San Francisco. I have managed to do a solo ride doing Four, 400 mile days back to back. In Mexico I take it easy and try to knock off by 3pm and have a Beer or Margarita in my hand shortly thereafter. But I'm used to riding distance and have done it non-stop for the last 15 years.

Sometimes it can take a day or two to get yourself into that mental "Groove". State of mind is everything. A good seat is a must and a buzz free bike helps too. I can't recommend highway pegs ... they put your feet forward and place more weight on your spine ... and very bad thing.
If anything, you want to maintain a slight forward cant. Relax your hands and arms ... lean into wind. Change position, move around, stand occasionally ... whatever works.

Windshields are another question mark. If your shield is at all noisy then that will ruin any chance at stringing long days together. You'll be totally hammered after the first day from wind noise ... and will never recover.
(even with ear plugs ... which of course are a MUST)
I ride with NO shield and never without good ear plugs.

Longest day on DR650? 1000 miles in about 16 hours.

Being fit really helps. (I am not) Young guys do long days easily. I'm 63 and have to work at it. Here's how I do it:

1. Stretching and Breathing. (Yoga training) I stretch at every gas, pee or food break. Really comprehensive stretching ... I was a gymnast as a kid ... so I know how. Breathing brings back focus and energy. I take frequent breaks ... about every 150 to 180.

2. Food. The less the better, but a good breakfast helps. Add light, healthful snacks throughout the day. Big mid day meals will ruin your day.

3. Water. A major plus, especially in heat. This will erase fatigue, make your overnight recovery like magic. Water Water Water.

4. The mental part. That "Groove" thing. Can't help with this ... everyone is different. Get there anyway you can. I never take speed or smoke Pot or take any Drugs other than the ones that keep me alive.

Whatever you do ... pay attention ... and if you're nodding off.
Get Off The Bike ... Now! Tomorrow is another day!
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:27 PM   #55965
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Interesting terminology being used in this discussion, 'cushion'

I've never heard it before in all these years, and I'm heading towards 60 fast

Steve
That's the term used in the Suzuki Service Manual and online fiche diagrams: http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID...CUSHION_LEVER_
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