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Old 11-11-2011, 12:09 PM   #56686
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How is the DR650 for long highway slogs? I am down to choosing between just a couple bikes and the DR650 is at the top of my list for all the reasons you guys know about, the thing is for me to get anywhere interesting on it I've got at least 2-3 hours on pavement and am just wondering if it's going to vibrate me to death. I had a DRZ400sm that I put quite a few road miles on and sometimes my hands would fall asleep lol.
You already got some great answers but since I have not checked into this thread for quite awhile, and I have also had a DRZ400s (not an SM), I'll just add that the DR650 will feel like you are riding a cruiser. Well ok it's not that smooth....LOL. But it really feels a lot better on the open road than the DRZ does and is still light enough to have fun in the twisties

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Old 11-11-2011, 12:29 PM   #56687
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which would cause that off-idle bog that people often complain about?
No, it's been well documented that the off idle bog is caused by a rich condition.
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:11 PM   #56688
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I would say "with" rather than "from". It is important to note that the majority of emulsion tube, needle, and slide needle bore wear comes from slide guide wear, as the slide become constrained by the jet needle in the emulsion tube rather than by the slide guide.
I appreciate your thoughts. It's always an interesting and informative perspective.
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:25 PM   #56689
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I appreciate your thoughts. It's always an interesting and informative perspective.
Thank you, sir!

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Old 11-11-2011, 01:49 PM   #56690
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Awesome! A couple of things to add:

Factory Pro uses ever so sightly different needles in their DR and LC4 kits. The DR needle has a .004" larger tip diameter than the KTM one does. By your measurements I'll assume the needle FP in the picture is from a DR kit.
Pic is from mx_rob's needle comparison thread on TT.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...=467615&page=4
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:15 PM   #56691
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Great read Phil! Thanks for sharing.

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Old 11-11-2011, 02:19 PM   #56692
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I read that over on the Adventure Bike Rider Forum. Really interesting!!

Guess the DR and KLR's are pretty rare over there?
Cheers mate
Good bunch the ABR guys , DRs are really popular here in France but don't see to many KLRs about!
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:04 PM   #56693
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Pic is from mx_rob's needle comparison thread on TT.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...=467615&page=4
Aha! Thanks.

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Old 11-11-2011, 03:44 PM   #56694
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What main jet are you running with the KTM needle, at approximately what elevation?
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:56 PM   #56695
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What main jet are you running with the KTM needle, at approximately what elevation?
I am not running a KTM needle. Mine is actually a custom job that is similar but by no means identical. Your main jet can only be determined after some trial and error and in the case of the DR is going to be affected a lot by what kind of airbox opening you have -- probably more then the altitude. My airbox is opened up about two or three times the size of the snorkel hole size and I run a mikuni 142.5 at 4200' and up.

Edit: those with fully opened up airboxs seem to fall somewhere between a 145 and 150 mikuni main (Dynojet #s are different for the same size).

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Old 11-11-2011, 04:06 PM   #56696
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[My question though is: wouldn't the flat side of the e-clip (if positioned along side the shelf) prevent rotation of the needle?]

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:29 PM   #56697
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...DRs are really popular here in France, but don't see too many KLRs about!
Must have done their homework !

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Old 11-11-2011, 06:20 PM   #56698
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Cheers mate
Good bunch the ABR guys , DRs are really popular here in France but don't see to many KLRs about!
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This guys a poser, everyone knows there are no Phils in France.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:39 PM   #56699
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:04 AM   #56700
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Must have done their homework !

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