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Old 12-01-2011, 11:10 AM   #57481
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Hola todos,

I still dont have a spark.

cleaned the killswitch. I put new spark plugs in. cleaned all connectors ...

when I checked the ignition, I did not have connection between the orange/yellow and the black/white cables when in position ON. I made an external connection ... but still no spark.

what about the pick up? how to check this? any other ideas?

saludos
There are 3 fuses in the wiring harness. One in the starter relay and 2 in a fuse box. I'm not trying to insult anyone's thinking process, but they haven't been mentioned so far. On my wiring diagram, there is also an alternate fuse box showing 4 fuses. This isn't on U.S. bikes, but I don't know about the bike you are working on.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:36 AM   #57482
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Hola guys,

after reading here for quite some time, I have my first question to you guys.

I bought an 2005 DR 650 SE in very bad condition and now I am trying to get it running before I do more repairs and upgrades.

OK. I have no spark.

The CDI (nearly new) and the coil are working. Sidestandswitch and clutchswitch are out and the wires are conected. The starter motor turns the engine, the valves are adjusted to specs, the alternator has resistences between the yellow cables of 1,1 Ohm, I guess that means the alternator is ok. The battery is newly charged.

The spark plugs are still the old ones, as I dont have new now, but hopefully tomorrow afternoon. But both spark plugs faulty?

Where else would you start looking for the problem?

Greetings from Chile
It's likely you have screwed up the wiring in attempting to eliminate the side stand switch and/or clutch safety switch.

If the bike is a theft recovery ... or stolen, and the ignition has been tampered with, then that could also be the problem. There is a resistor behind the ignition to ruin the efforts of scumbag thieves.

If you want the bike repaired ... why not take it to a Suzuki dealer? I'm sure they will have it running in under an hour.

But of course they will run the VIN number through Police data base ....
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:00 PM   #57483
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still no spark

Hola todos,

still no spark and will have to charge the battery again ...

how do I check the pick up? and how do I know if the stator is ok?

anything else I could try ?


@Adv Grifter

No, the clutch and sidestand switches removal was done by somebody else ... but I have the problem now.

The next Suzuki dealer is more than 1000kms away ... and I dont have a car.

The bike has not been stolen, but it looks like :-)

@Rusty Rocket

I checked the fuses, all ok. yes, it is an US model - 2005

@ER70S-2 and Porrick

I checked the ignition again, yes there is an resistor of 100 Ohm between the orange/yellow and black/white cables. So this means the ignition switch is ok and I connected everything back to original. Thank you for the information.

@asrvivor

no, the killswitch has not been modified. the next suzuki dealer is more than 1000kms away and I dont have a car.

Greetings from Chile
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:18 PM   #57484
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Hola todos,
How do I check the pick up? and how do I know if the stator is ok?
At the top of this page, right above the page numbers, click 'Search this Thread'; then enter "pick-up coil".
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The next Suzuki dealer is more than 1000kms away ... and I dont have a car.
The bike has not been stolen, but it looks like :-)
Well that sucks.
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I checked the ignition again, yes there is an resistor of 100 Ohm between the orange/yellow and black/white cables. So this means the ignition switch is ok and I connected everything back to original. Thank you for the information.

Greetings from Chile
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:54 PM   #57485
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Thanks for the fix. I must be losing it -- I just soldered a resistor into my new ignition harness last night when I replaced the big, clunky DR key switch/lock combo with a small ATV one (to be mounted under HDB top plate ....

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Old 12-01-2011, 05:17 PM   #57486
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Evening all,
I thought I would sign in and say hello. Just bought a Dr650 +1/2. Plan to do most of the cheaper upgrades, especially around the suspension of course. I also hope to convert it over to black cause once you go... oh nevermind, I just like them better. The rider is a 99 and the +1/2 is a 97 that the guy bought for parts just to fix the eploding gear issue. No title, dirt life. I'll use the hubs to make a set of street 17" tires and some of the rest as spares. Just getting started on this. I am working on getting the black tank and side panels already. Anyone have some fenders and a light cover? I have time, so I'll keep looking around.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:23 PM   #57487
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Evening all,
I thought I would sign in and say hello. Just bought a Dr650 +1/2. Plan to do most of the cheaper upgrades, especially around the suspension of course. I also hope to convert it over to black cause once you go... oh nevermind, I just like them better. The rider is a 99 and the +1/2 is a 97 that the guy bought for parts just to fix the eploding gear issue. No title, dirt life. I'll use the hubs to make a set of street 17" tires and some of the rest as spares. Just getting started on this. I am working on getting the black tank and side panels already. Anyone have some fenders and a light cover? I have time, so I'll keep looking around.
Man you are going to love it. And welcome, once my DR gives out I'm buying another and I'll keep mine for parts. Wish I could find a wrecked one now. They just don't break if taken care of.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:25 PM   #57488
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Man you are going to love it. And welcome, once my DR gives out I'm buying another and I'll keep mine for parts. Wish I could find a wrecked one now. They just don't break if taken care of.

By the way I saw a corbin seat in fleamarket for $ 150 I think it was a couple days ago. You'll need that for any distance over 25 miles. LOL
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:30 PM   #57489
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By the way I saw a corbin seat in fleamarket for $ 150 I think it was a couple days ago. You'll need that for any distance over 25 miles. LOL
I've heard! I need to take it a little slow as far as spending money. The wife was not diggin the second bike (or third). I have a 2003 zx6e as well. The DR will just be a play and tinker toy. Not sure what I really want to do most with it, but I'm diggin the supermoto look and curve-play. I have a few home projects and, of course, Christmas to take my time and money right now. I love the zx6e BTW. Here's a pic for fun...everyone loves pics.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #57490
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I know seat comfort has been talked into the ground here, but I came up with a solution that has enabled me to ride 250 miles in comfort whereas before I just couldn't handle it. One day, after a long painful jaunt I grabbed an old camping mat that was never used. It is really dense foam. So I cut it to fit into the Wal-mart ATV riding cushion and strapped it on the seat. Now it is wider and comfortable and long days are not an issue.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:45 PM   #57491
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I like it Looks like a nice cheap solution!

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I know seat comfort has been talked into the ground here, but I came up with a solution that has enabled me to ride 250 miles in comfort whereas before I just couldn't handle it. One day, after a long painful jaunt I grabbed an old camping mat that was never used. It is really dense foam. So I cut it to fit into the Wal-mart ATV riding cushion and strapped it on the seat. Now it is wider and comfortable and long days are not an issue.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:27 PM   #57492
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Saw this used in a seat home project so I bought one with good intentions. It's a dense foam also. I was asked to test a Seat Concepts product....which is still on the bike. Still have the pad - for camping.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:27 PM   #57493
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I need to take it a little slow as far as spending money. The wife was not diggin the second bike (or third).
That's what we all said.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:59 PM   #57494
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On my last trail riding trip a couple of weeks ago I noticed my rear sprocket had quite a bit of play in it. Front to back and side to side. I figured the front to back was just the cush drive rubbers wearing out, but knew there shouldn't be much side to side play so I ordered a new bearing and rubbers and got around to installing them last night. It feels so much smoother now! The old bearing was pretty nasty inside, so the new double sealed bearing will be nice. My bike is a 2007 with about 10,500mi on it, but gets ridden hard through some nasty stuff so I'm not surprised they wore out.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:21 PM   #57495
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Thanks for that update. This is timely for me.
When you replaced the Bearing ... did you do replace anything else? Was it only the left side hubb bearing or all rear wheel bearings on both sides?
Did you replace any other parts ... like the sprockets/chain? Or just the bearing(s)?

Glad to hear things have smoothed out ... I'm thinking of doing the same job soon. How hard was it to get the hubb bearings out and new ones in?

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