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Old 01-12-2012, 07:04 AM   #58921
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Hi Guys,

I would like some feedback on the following. I'm torn between 3 options i have for my DR, regarding wheels.

I ride my bike every day to work, i use it for holidays, weekends, and try to go off-road as much as possible. I live in the Netherlands and off-road here means mostly 1 of 2 things. Loose sand or mud. I currently have Heidenau K60 Scout (90/90-21 & 130/80-17) on my wheels. These work very well on the street and harder surface off-road. With wet pavement they are also great. With mud they get full pretty quickly and because of my inexperience, I don't get up to enough speed to clear the tires. In loose sand i find the front 21 with the Heidenau K60 to be very "loose" and not to stabile, but with some more speed and experience, they are manageable. Hard surface off-road they are good enough.

Option 1:
Keep the 21/17, witht the Heidenau K60 Scout. Becauss i ride so much on-road. These are great tires. And off-road i would just have to deal with it. I 'm not to keen on trying Conti TKC80 or the like on these narrow tires, because i would believe that would make the bike very loose and not so much fun with cold and wet pavement. Which we have a lot here.

Option 2:
Go to Supermoto wheels. 3.50 x 17 front and 4.25 x 17 rear, with 120/70-17 and 160/60-17 (or 150/60-17) tires. I've had a Suzuki Bandit 600 which i also used to off-road with. With rain tires, Heidenau K73. Worked really well and i would think they would perform even better on an SM type bike. A friend has a TT-R 600 with SM wheels and he can go wherever i go with my "dirt" wheels. I would really like to SM the DR, because on road that would make the bike handle even better. Off-road with the right tires it would also be very capable. But i think that with an SM bike, i would like some more power and beter suspension.

Option 3
Go for a 2.50 x 19 font and 4.25 x 17 rear wheel. With 110/80-19 fornt and 150/70-17 rear tire. I would then consider a TKC80 or similar, which would also work very well on the road. Because of the wider tire and therefore larger contact patch. Off-road this would probably work a lot better than the Heidenau K60 i currently have with the 21/17 wheels.

Can anybody shed some light on this?

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Option 4
Change front to a more aggressive front tire, and live with a little less road-ability for enhanced dirt-ability.

It's cheaper than a new set of wheels & tires, and if you choose carefully, you may find the new, somewhat more aggressive front tire does fine on the road too.

I am changing my front IRC-GP1 (still has lots of tread) for an MT-21 in the Spring, for exactly the same reason you stated above - I need more traction in sand and mud. Rear is a Mefo Explorer, which for now will stay on.



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Old 01-12-2012, 07:16 AM   #58922
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Hows that Walmart seat pad working? Price? I'm still using the stock seat and too cheap to buy a good seat. I should probably own a KLR
I've only ridden it a couple of days. The pad is more comfy, but I don't like the half-ass-look of the straps. I'll work on hiding the straps, during some nicer weather.
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See the staps? Don't like them hanging around. Price? Maybe 20 bucks, sorry I don't remember.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:20 AM   #58923
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Then drill two big holes in the plastic side panels with a hole saw, so you can stick a socket wrench through and remove or install the seat without taking the panels off. This gives you quick access to the battery, etc. Especially useful trail-side. Stick gummy HandiTak or rain spout seal somewhere on a clean part of the frame, so you can use it to stick the bolt in the socket to pull it out or thread it in.
Thanks for the advice.

Sounds like a very good idea, though i am hesitant on drilling through my while side plastics as of now...
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:21 AM   #58924
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New to this, but here goes.
Have a look on ebay.co.uk. I just bought 2, correct numbers and took 4 days to get to Aus, postage was more than the pipe, some say they will not ship international but if you send them an email they might help. The people that I dealt with were very helpful. Each muffler was about $125.00 including shipping to Aus. Although I'm having trouble getting in touch with Jessie at Keintech and will call them tomorrow for a couple of midpipes.

Also wanted to add that I only got my DR just before Christmas while I was away at work, Tyrepower checked it out for me and my dear wife arranged payment while I was away, when I got home there it was a 2010 white DR with 800kms on the clock in the shed, and now I'm spending $$ on it. So different to ride compared to my 1999 Tenere'.

Thanks!

Will take a look at ebay.co.uk.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:56 AM   #58925
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A lot of DR riders run what is called a "mullet". They use different tires front and rear. A common one is an MT21 front with a D606 rear. The D606 supposedly lasts quite a while and runs pavement fairly well for as knobby as it is, but it's not usually the cheapest DOT knob around.
current mullet (some say emo - longer in front/shorter in back...mullet is the opposite) is
irc tr8 -fr $50
shinko 700 -r $58
prices from MSS

previous was
tck-80
mefo explorer

current works just like the previous but much cheaper in price
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:01 AM   #58926
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I used the Walmart seat pad for a long time on top of the gel seat with a little padding underneath to bolster it somewhat.
Hey, I find my Walmart pad's buckles to be exactly in the wrong place. Right at the bottom of the seat, interfering with the side panels and such.

I had the seat off, and was trying to place all four straps around the seat pan itself.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:06 AM   #58927
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nice find as long as he's supplying the ones with 40x in the numbers as those are the tiitanium innard ones. since that specific one was on the gsxr for a few years (the next generation got larger) i wonder how many are still out there and in decent condition.

bottom one is the 40x, the one above is the next generation size.

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I ordered one from this place after reading about it on drriders.com (after scouring craigslist and ebay for a few months):

"For those looking for this pipe, here is a source that claims to be able to get them with realitive ease. It's where I got mine for $75 plus shipping.

M.I.D.S. Cycle Salvage
Sumter, SC
803-773-3535
ask for Shane

I have no connection to them other then the fact it's where I found mine. Just thought it might help anyone out that has been looking.

Dan"

http://drriders.com/topic2998.html

Shane was the one that answered when I called, and he seemed to have no shortage of those mufflers. He was aware that DR650 owners are looking for them, too.

Good luck -- I hope you find one!
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:10 AM   #58928
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Hey, I find my Walmart pad's buckles to be exactly in the wrong place. Right at the bottom of the seat, interfering with the side panels and such.

I had the seat off, and was trying to place all four straps around the seat pan itself.

Anyone have any suggestions?
throw in the towel and get the seat concepts replacement seat pad
http://seatconcepts.com/products#ecw...roduct=7268100
you'll be much happier.

i use a sargent and would never ride w/o
http://www.sargentcycle.com/suzwsdr650.htm

speaking of sargent, how's the production coming along on the new V one?
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:16 AM   #58929
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I've only ridden it a couple of days. The pad is more comfy, but I don't like the half-ass-look of the straps. I'll work on hiding the straps, during some nicer weather.
From Suzuki DR650 with Accessories


See the staps? Don't like them hanging around. Price? Maybe 20 bucks, sorry I don't remember.
I never could get mine to tighten up, it helped till my custom Corbin came in. I would just do the seat concepts deal now, I wish that was out back in 2007.

Man that big GIVI looks big, I had one on my FJR for years. When I'm riding mostly pavement I put the 52 liter on mine too. At least I'm not the only one using the 52 on a DR650.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:36 AM   #58930
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throw in the towel and get the seat concepts replacement seat pad
http://seatconcepts.com/products#ecw...roduct=7268100
you'll be much happier.

i use a sargent and would never ride w/o
http://www.sargentcycle.com/suzwsdr650.htm

speaking of sargent, how's the production coming along on the new V one?
Oh yeah! I had a Seat Concepts on DR #2 and I'll probably end up with another one soon, I'm thinkin'... I just asked ShadyRascal a question on the DR vs. KLR thread, and I'll ask it again here...

My guess is the Seat Concepts is about 75% the improvement over stock that the Sargent is. Would anyone agree/disagree with that?

Considering the price is just about double for the Sargent, can it be TWICE as good as the Seat Concepts? I've ridden Sargents on other bikes but never tried the DR650 version.

On the Versys seat at Sargent... I just left an e-mail for Mary to see how it's coming along. I'm thinking maybe a another month or two...

Thanks!
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:21 AM   #58931
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Oh yeah! I had a Seat Concepts on DR #2 and I'll probably end up with another one soon, I'm thinkin'... I just asked ShadyRascal a question on the DR vs. KLR thread, and I'll ask it again here...

My guess is the Seat Concepts is about 75% the improvement over stock that the Sargent is. Would anyone agree/disagree with that?

Considering the price is just about double for the Sargent, can it be TWICE as good as the Seat Concepts? I've ridden Sargents on other bikes but never tried the DR650 version.

On the Versys seat at Sargent... I just left an e-mail for Mary to see how it's coming along. I'm thinking maybe a another month or two...

Thanks!
Ahh, but the price is'nt double if ProCycle is still running their seat credit program. Send in your 'ol seat pan for store credit.

I have used Sargent seats on a few bikes and to me they are a known quality. Their seat for the DR also has the widest seating area (11.5 ") while still keeping it narrow up front for stand up riding.

Not saying the other options are not good, just saying my boney butt was worth the extra $$s.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:37 AM   #58932
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Ahh, but the price is'nt double if ProCycle is still running their seat credit program. Send in your 'ol seat pan for store credit.

I have used Sargent seats on a few bikes and to me they are a known quality. Their seat for the DR also has the widest seating area (11.5 ") while still keeping it narrow up front for stand up riding.

Not saying the other options are not good, just saying my boney butt was worth the extra $$s.
Agreed, I've been running a Sargent seat for 2 years now from Procycle. Love it. The width at the rear is so nice when riding long days. I've done a few 1000 mile plus days and only hurt after a couple days of this in a row.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:49 AM   #58933
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Hey, I find my Walmart pad's buckles to be exactly in the wrong place. Right at the bottom of the seat, interfering with the side panels and such.

I had the seat off, and was trying to place all four straps around the seat pan itself.

Anyone have any suggestions?
When I had mine, I was able to work the straps under the seat, leaving them a bit loose prior to reinstalling the seat. They snugged up on install and worked great.

I haven't had the Sgt on the DR, but I've had it...and Seat Concepts new Strom seat..... on my Wee 650. Very comparable with the pillion area MUCH better on the SC seat. Runnng the SC on the DR also.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:57 AM   #58934
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Just ordered a new Corbin for my DR so I'm hoping that will solve all my....ummmm......issues with the stock seat
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:10 AM   #58935
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busted rad

On my last trip to Morocco i did this



A little lie down , didn't know i'd busted the oil cooler mount untill a day or two later !! but good old zip ties to the rescue


Been running around like that since November and thought it was about time i got it sorted , so i rooted about on a French second hand site , found one €30 payed for it only to find when it arrived it was wrong
New ones on the left , it's smaller ,has banjo fittings and the brackets are reversed


No worries i'll plumb it into my DR 250 , its gotta help !!

Heres the damaged one , bent one bracket , snapped the other and crushed the inlet, but it still works !!! may even get my mate to try a brase it back together.





Tough old bike the DR , found another rad , the right one this time , €40 this time but Morroco's calling again !!! might look into a stronger/ longer crash bar !!! Any ideas ????
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