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Old 03-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #61276
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14T front sprocket

So, I'm in Argentina and the time is up on my chain and sprockets. I brought spares with me. Decided to have a shop put on the front 14t sprocket while having some other work done. By the time I get back, at closing, the works all done BUT the little triangular retainer plate is handed back to me saying it wasn't needed. Here's the question ... what are the possible negative ramifications of riding the without that little thing? At first all felt fine but after 1,000 kms things are sounding a bit rough at times.

Anything? ... Thanks
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:40 PM   #61277
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So, I'm in Argentina and the time is up on my chain and sprockets. I brought spares with me. Decided to have a shop put on the front 14t sprocket while having some other work done. By the time I get back, at closing, the works all done BUT the little triangular retainer plate is handed back to me saying it wasn't needed. Here's the question ... what are the possible negative ramifications of riding the without that little thing? At first all felt fine but after 1,000 kms things are sounding a bit rough at times.

Anything? ... Thanks
What is holding the sprocket on now? Hopefully they used a Snap ring .... or something??

I would put the retainer plate back on. BUT ... for the 14T sprocket you need to grind about 1/32" to 1/16" off the plate edge or it will HIT the chain as it goes round.

Does not have to be precise ... you just need to grind down enough so the chain does NOT contact the edge of plate. Easy. Takes two seconds.

Use BLUE (non permanent) loc-tite on the three bolts and DO NOT over torque them. The Loc -Tite will do the job. Just good and snug, evenly tightened.

The front sprocket can also be held on with a Snap ring (it may be now?) ... or I believe an alternative smaller diameter plate is sold to work with the 14T sprocket. But since your in beautiful Argentina ... just grind a bit off the stock retainer plate until chain does not touch. DONE!

Where are you headed next? Been South already? Where to?
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #61278
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So, I'm in Argentina and the time is up on my chain and sprockets. I brought spares with me. Decided to have a shop put on the front 14t sprocket while having some other work done. By the time I get back, at closing, the works all done BUT the little triangular retainer plate is handed back to me saying it wasn't needed. Here's the question ... what are the possible negative ramifications of riding the without that little thing? At first all felt fine but after 1,000 kms things are sounding a bit rough at times.

Anything? ... Thanks
What Adv Grifter said. There needs to be something in the countershaft groove to retain the sprocket. I tried the snap ring but prefer the retainer, whether the stock round one ground to fit the 14t or the triangular one you no longer have. Edit: Including case saver chain guard from Procycle.



Available from Procycle:





If you use these, two will fit, side by side, lessening vibration and movement:

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:37 PM   #61279
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Don't do that... you'll only sound like a dickhead. Americans cannot do Aussie slang (none that I have met anyway) and even something as simple as an American saying "gidday" gets chewed up and is painful to hear... like fingernails down a chalkboard.
Relax, it's the internet, you're sounding like a dickhead. Gidday mate.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:44 PM   #61280
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What Adv Grifter said. There needs to be something in the countershaft sprocket groove to retain the sprocket. I tried the snap ring but prefer the retainer, whether the stock round one ground to fit the 14t or the triangular one you no longer have.
Whoops! I missed the mention of the Triangular retainer plate. Isn't that the piece sold by someone specifically to hold the smaller 14T sprocket on? It should NOT need grinding ... should bolt right up.
I was referring to the STOCK plate shown above. That one is easily ground down a bit to allow the 14T clearance. Maybe the Argentines made their own retainer plate? Or ... ? I also prefer the stock plate to a Snap Ring. Anyway, sorry for the confusion. Good luck!
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:50 PM   #61281
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Whoops! I missed the mention of the Triangular retainer plate. Isn't that the piece sold by someone specifically to hold the smaller 14T sprocket on? It should NOT need grinding ... should bolt right up.
I was referring to the STOCK plate shown above. That one is easily ground down a bit to allow the 14T clearance. Maybe the Argentines made their own retainer plate? Or ... ? I also prefer the stock plate to a Snap Ring. Anyway, sorry for the confusion. Good luck!
No confusion, you nailed it. Procycle sells the triangular piece and the stock round one fits easily with a little grinding to clear the sprocket.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:50 PM   #61282
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"ugly as a robber's dog"
"like a cap full of arseholes"
And, even "arsehole" for our U.S. "a$$hole."

You guys in OZ (maybe NZ, too) slay me with your colorful terminology.

Any chance one of you more colorful-speaking Aussies could give us a list of the most useful terms? I like to try 'em out on my mates here in NorCal.

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http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&outp...w=1335&bih=853

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:20 AM   #61283
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On long trips I run the 700/705 combo. That will go 5K easily. Fronts will go much longer while touring. It all depends on how thin you run your tires down to. I pulled my last rear 700 when the center bar was smooth due to prepping for a 1200 mile trip. That was with 4K on it at 25 psi average.

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Old 03-14-2012, 01:05 AM   #61284
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Point proven. You missed entirely the meaning of a comment that in Australian colloquial terms is benign and doesn't even rate on an offensive scale (unless in polite female company)... and turned it into something else.
Shut up.

Is that American enough for you? Talk motorcycles, maybe the DR650 for example.

Anyone know where I can get the little magnet that mounts to the rotor to transmit to the vapor unit?
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:24 AM   #61285
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Shut up.

Is that American enough for you? Talk motorcycles, maybe the DR650 for example.

Anyone know where I can get the little magnet that mounts to the rotor to transmit to the vapor unit?
Yep, I've got a couple spare.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:33 AM   #61286
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So, I'm in Argentina and the time is up on my chain and sprockets. I brought spares with me. Decided to have a shop put on the front 14t sprocket while having some other work done. By the time I get back, at closing, the works all done BUT the little triangular retainer plate is handed back to me saying it wasn't needed. Here's the question ... what are the possible negative ramifications of riding the without that little thing? At first all felt fine but after 1,000 kms things are sounding a bit rough at times.

Anything? ... Thanks
If it's the triangular Procycle plate it should have fitted fine with the 14 tooth (since that's the point of it). One can only assume they put a clip retainer on it. Why? Who knows. Perhaps they snapped the retainer bolts off in the sprocket and just left the sprocket floating... I'd be checking it.



And for the Aus slang posts, we abbreviate "Good Day Sir", to "G'Day"..... jeez mate, if ya gonna use Aussie slang ya gotta spell it right....
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:40 AM   #61287
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Point proven. You missed entirely the meaning of a comment that in Australian colloquial terms is benign and doesn't even rate on an offensive scale (unless in polite female company)... and turned it into something else.
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Shut up.
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And for the Aus slang posts, we abbreviate "Good Day Sir", to "G'Day"..... jeez mate, if ya gonna use Aussie slang ya gotta spell it right....
You blokes are taking it to seriously.

As serious as a dog doing a shit.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:13 AM   #61288
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She had more pricks than a second hand dartboard.
A few wanks short of an orgasm
About as useful as tits on a bull
Scarce as rocking horse shit
May your ears turn into arseholes and shit on your shoulders
Happy as a bastard on Father's Day
Im busier than a one armed paper boy As useless as a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest
Stop pissing in my pocket mate
Up at a sparrows fart
Built like a brick shithouse
She bangs like a dunny door in a hurricane
He's got a few roos loose in the top paddock
Hes a sandwich short of a picnic He's a can short of a six-pack
2 tim tams short of a packet
Dont get ya knickers in a knot
Fair crack of the whip
Fair suck of the saveloy (sav)
Thanks! Your list reminded me of two favorites of my own, above. That dartboard comparison will be used in the near future.

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Old 03-14-2012, 03:32 AM   #61289
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You blokes are taking it to seriously.

As serious as a dog doing a shit.
Nah, I was just stringing it along a bit...
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:51 AM   #61290
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Thanks! I could NOT think of the word "slang." Google is my friend.

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