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Old 04-02-2012, 02:40 PM   #62341
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Almost time to renew my cycle insurance.. just curious what other DR650 owners are paying.

I'm currently with Progressive here in Michigan and have the following on my 96 DR650

Bodily Injury Liabililty: $20K/40K
Property Damage Liability: $10K
$1K Comp/Collision Deduct
$3000 Accessory Coverage.

Total comes to $93/year, but living in the great State of Michigan where we have a high percentage of uninsured motorists an additional fee of $145! is added on to the premium to help those that are uninsured :s_mad

Thus a total of $238/year for the DR650..

What you guys paying? Anyone in Michigan know if if there is a way around the MCCA fee, especially if I am already paying the MCCA fee on my car insurance?
Check with your agent on the possibility that if you've already paid the MCCA, that it includes all vehicles. If so then get the same coverage as you cars. I have Progressive. They give a discount to AMA members and multi bike discounts. I think I pay less for 2 bikes than you are for 1.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:41 PM   #62342
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Almost time to renew my cycle insurance.. just curious what other DR650 owners are paying.

I'm currently with Progressive here in Michigan and have the following on my 96 DR650

Bodily Injury Liabililty: $20K/40K
Property Damage Liability: $10K
$1K Comp/Collision Deduct
$3000 Accessory Coverage.

Total comes to $93/year, but living in the great State of Michigan where we have a high percentage of uninsured motorists an additional fee of $145! is added on to the premium to help those that are uninsured :s_mad

Thus a total of $238/year for the DR650..

What you guys paying? Anyone in Michigan know if if there is a way around the MCCA fee, especially if I am already paying the MCCA fee on my car insurance?
Geico $35/yr

50/100/50 liability.

Only have comp on the 690 and KX450F
Don't carry coll on any of the bikes, especially a cheap bike like the DR

There's a high percentage of uninsured motorists EVERYWHERE.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #62343
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Almost time to renew my cycle insurance.. just curious what other DR650 owners are paying.

I'm currently with Progressive here in Michigan and have the following on my 96 DR650

Bodily Injury Liabililty: $20K/40K
Property Damage Liability: $10K
$1K Comp/Collision Deduct
$3000 Accessory Coverage.

Total comes to $93/year, but living in the great State of Michigan where we have a high percentage of uninsured motorists an additional fee of $145! is added on to the premium to help those that are uninsured :s_mad

Thus a total of $238/year for the DR650..

What you guys paying? Anyone in Michigan know if if there is a way around the MCCA fee, especially if I am already paying the MCCA fee on my car insurance?
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Geico $35/yr

50/100/50 liability.

Only have comp on the 690 and KX450F
Don't carry coll on any of the bikes, especially a cheap bike like the DR

There's a high percentage of uninsured motorists EVERYWHERE.
You guys in the states have nothing to complain about, try living in Canada or BC particularly where we have gov't insurance. I pay $500 for 6 months, liability only, no collision. And I've been driving for 35 years, no accidents, no speeding tickets. That's for the DR, my CBF is even more because they base the rates on displacement. Only bike that is even close to being reasonable is my wife's DR200, but that's still close $300 for 6 months.

I guess that's the price we pay to have this as our daily commute...



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Old 04-02-2012, 04:03 PM   #62344
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Still within CocaCola's reach.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:44 PM   #62345
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Now that I got the black Compost Bin installed.... I'm pretty sure I'm done with the farkles..........





...the only good thing to say about a Safari tank is this: Its big. Rode 300km/s without refuelling today - thats never happened before. Still plenty left in the tank..............
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:21 PM   #62346
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #62347
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Still within CocaCola's reach.
and, there's a few mickey dee's there, as well. one even within walking distance of where i lived, located at spice mall. but, i didn't eat at a mickey dee's the entire time i was in latvia. i actually wanted to, yust to try it, but it the one near where i lived was right next to a lido which had excellent local food in a million warieties, and it was as cheap or cheaper, depending on what you ordered. i also remember seeing hardly any pick-up trucks, wery few suv's and almost all the cars were manual transmissions. but, when i left, gas was ~$8/gallon; i am sure it is even higher now...

for anyone interested in progressive new music, tune in to radio naba on the 'net; mebbe the best station of its type on the entire planet:
http://www.radionaba.lv/
http://www.radionaba.lv/index.php?op...1365&Itemid=98
http://tunein.com/radio/Lat-R5-NABASaeima-931-s48034/

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #62348
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Now that I got the black Compost Bin installed.... I'm pretty sure I'm done with the farkles..........





...the only good thing to say about a Safari tank is this: Its big. Rode 300km/s without refuelling today - thats never happened before. Still plenty left in the tank..............
Ya I would stop sometime or you may as well just have gone ahead and bought a big heavy KLR!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:30 PM   #62349
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Big drop in fuel economy post jet kit install

So, i just finished all the mods I wanted to do on my 2000 DR that I picked up in January. last one was exhaust, intake, and jet kit. Got a GSXR pipe, short non-titanium version, along with Jesse's mid-pipe and stock header. Have K&N filter, with top of air box removed. Got dynojet kit from jesse, and installed 160 jet. Fuel screw was about 2 turns out, which i changed to 2.25 before leaving work today as it was running a slight bit rough. 2.25 was better.

My setup before all this was stock carb with aftermarket fuel screw (not sure how many turns out it was), stock airbox and filter, stock header, unknown aftermarket slip on with integral mid-pipe.

I ran out of fuel on primary after 70 miles (with screw 2 turns out for 65 of those miles). Really surprised me as before i was getting 95-105 on primary. Switched to reserve and found nearest gas station. Filled up and it was 72 miles on 2.5 gallons, filled up to the bottom of the filler neck. Putting mileage around 29 mpg. I was getting around 40 mph before. This is pretty much all slab right now, varrying from 35 to 60 mph, commuting to work.

So i figured i would lose a bit of mileage, but not a 30% drop. Is this normal, or if not, any ideas how to improve this? I see people talking about mid to high 40s on here, so figuring something ain't right.

Thanks much.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:03 PM   #62350
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Depending on your riding style (bouncing off the rev limiter?), that's still awful. Since we spend most of our time on the needle circuit, I'd drop the needle one at a time until it ran like doo doo; then back-up one. If you're on the rev limiter, I'd drop the main jet one at a time until I noticed a drop in rideability.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:28 PM   #62351
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So, i just finished all the mods I wanted to do on my 2000 DR that I picked up in January. last one was exhaust, intake, and jet kit. Got a GSXR pipe, short non-titanium version, along with Jesse's mid-pipe and stock header. Have K&N filter, with top of air box removed. Got dynojet kit from jesse, and installed 160 jet. Fuel screw was about 2 turns out, which i changed to 2.25 before leaving work today as it was running a slight bit rough. 2.25 was better.

My setup before all this was stock carb with aftermarket fuel screw (not sure how many turns out it was), stock airbox and filter, stock header, unknown aftermarket slip on with integral mid-pipe.

I ran out of fuel on primary after 70 miles (with screw 2 turns out for 65 of those miles). Really surprised me as before i was getting 95-105 on primary. Switched to reserve and found nearest gas station. Filled up and it was 72 miles on 2.5 gallons, filled up to the bottom of the filler neck. Putting mileage around 29 mpg. I was getting around 40 mph before. This is pretty much all slab right now, varrying from 35 to 60 mph, commuting to work.

So i figured i would lose a bit of mileage, but not a 30% drop. Is this normal, or if not, any ideas how to improve this? I see people talking about mid to high 40s on here, so figuring something ain't right.

Thanks much.
Its probably not the jet kit, you have other issues. I would start with replacing o-rings and setting the float. Double check the needle position. I expect at least 45 mpg out of a jetted BST and I ride hard and usually with luggage.

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:08 PM   #62352
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past post on mileage problem

I did the mods just about like yours, and guess what, terrible mileage.

read on.

Originally Posted by rockydrxrvr
Well, if 36 mpg. is okay, down from 50 mpg,...then jet kit knock yourself out. I was sorry I did it. At todays gas prices, and long ride in Baja Outback, I was the fuel worry problem child riding with KLRs and BMWs in remote areas. I love that big single torque just as stock gave me, But I'm an old fart. On my newer DR.....50 mpg, and only drilled out the idle jet lead plug and enrichened that circuit.


Been there done that

My 2006 with just the plug removal, and a 4 gallon tank......close to 200 miles before fuel panic.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:23 PM   #62353
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That is a beautiful commute, you're very lucky, I'm jealous.

Can you post a pic of that commute in January with your DR in the foreground like in the bottom pic?

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You guys in the states have nothing to complain about, try living in Canada or BC particularly where we have gov't insurance. I pay $500 for 6 months, liability only, no collision. And I've been driving for 35 years, no accidents, no speeding tickets. That's for the DR, my CBF is even more because they base the rates on displacement. Only bike that is even close to being reasonable is my wife's DR200, but that's still close $300 for 6 months.

I guess that's the price we pay to have this as our daily commute...



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Old 04-02-2012, 10:34 PM   #62354
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That is a beautiful commute, you're very lucky, I'm jealous.

Can you post a pic of that commute in January with your DR in the foreground like in the bottom pic?

Lex
Yeah, like this; well except for the missing DR.

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Old 04-02-2012, 10:55 PM   #62355
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Actually, you're wrong. Recommended maintenance intervals are similar. Suzuki recommends every 4500 miles, KTM recommends 6K for oil changes. I do 3K for both cause oil is relatively cheap. An oil change is an oil change, while the 690 does have one more oil filter it certainly doesn't take 3 times longer to change it. Valve adjustment intervals for the DR are 7500 miles, for the KTM 6K , and I can do a valve check much quicker on the 690 then I can the DR because access is much easier.
Ahhh, Albie,

My friend’s experience differs from yours. His is a 2007 KTM 690SM.

“KTM recommends 6K for oil changes.”
He said his manual specifies oil changes at 3,000 miles.

“An oil change is an oil change, while the 690 does have one more oil filter it certainly doesn't take 3 times longer to change it.”
He says, in addition to two oil filters, he cleans two screens. Close enough to three times as long when you include cleaning and reinstalling the screens.

Now, where’s that laughing face? Oh yeah, right here:

Regarding valve clearance adjustment: Since his KTM 690SM has shim adjustment, and one clearance was tight last time, he had to remove a rocker arm shaft to raise the rocker arm to get at the shim. Then, after seeing what size the shim was, he had to call the local KTM dealer to see if there was the next thinner shim in stock, which there was. So he jumps on his other bike, rides to the KTM dealer, buys the shim, returns home, installs the shim, reassembles the bike. If he had to order the shim, that would have added days to his valve adjustment.

I guarantee you it took him at least three times as long to do his valve adjustment as me, who never left the garage and didn't have to use the phone.

You’ll also note there were costs for fuel and for the shim, for him. No cost for me when I did the work on my DR, except for the beer afterward.

I'll re-use another of you quotes here: ”Actually, you're wrong.” Hmmm…. Need another laughing face to go with that:

WTH, here’s another two for ya:

Regarding the valve lash inspection interval, my friend checks his at 5k miles, apparently far sooner than KTM recommends, which he says is 6,200 miles. I thought 5k was the recommended interval, I only know my friend's experience. I check my valves at 14k miles intervals. Nearly 3x difference, for us.

And: I’m surprised you have any problem accessing the DR’s valve clearance adjustment, I don’t. Use ProCycle's feeler gauges and valve adjustment tool, they make the work easy.

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