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Old 04-04-2012, 12:10 PM   #62386
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So.... um.... what happens if after you remove the upper chain roller.... you thread the set screw in too much... and it drops into the frame.
I guess it rattles around in the frame.
I know when I do mine, (with a set screw) i'll centre punch the very top thread on the side, with the hex key in the hole, some thread sealer, and screw it in. That'll stop it from falling in and give it a little bite. No bolt heads to worry about.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:21 PM   #62387
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I guess it rattles around in the frame.
I know when I do mine, (with a set screw) i'll centre punch the very top thread on the side, with the hex key in the hole, some thread sealer, and screw it in. That'll stop it from falling in and give it a little bite. No bolt heads to worry about.
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Or, like myself: Being an airplane guy. . .light is better. So, a dab of ATV on a fingertip. I'm sure i get maybe .00000000000002 more mpg.

edit: yeah yeah yeah. . . .ok: Smear the atv from finger to hole. Shhhheeeese.

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Old 04-04-2012, 01:26 PM   #62388
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I dont think I ride that hard (in the street). High 30's with Mefo DS tires. I did notice a 4mpg jump when I went from Mefo's to Pirelli Scorpion Trail street slicks. On the freeway, 60-70mph, avg. I do have a windscreen on the front, maybe that's doing it.
High 30's? Your thumbnail/website states the average is about 45. I ride mostly street commuting to work and back and I also have a windscreen (screens for bikes) but it may look like you have a bit more weight strapped to yours than I do mine, plus the fuel tank and whatnot.
I'm running the Shinko 705's, keep mine luggage free when possible and i only weigh around 165, so that may be the difference between the two of us.
I guess my point was even after I jetted it, added an aftermarket exhaust and re-jetted. I got a lot more fun-factor and barely lost any mpg's for it, but an avg. of 45 ain't too bad either.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:30 PM   #62389
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I know the IMS petcocks don't have a great reputation, but are they really POS? My buddy and I were both running our DRs on a long route in Death Valley and carrying an extra gallon of fuel each so we could run our IMS tanks until hitting reserve and then down to empty to find out what our ranges were.

Well we both got a surprise when neither of our bikes would start when we first ran out of fuel and switched to reserve. We could see the fuel in the tank right at the top level of the petcock. We ended up having to add our spare fuel to continue the ride and so we didn't learn the real range of our bikes with IMS tanks.

Any ideas on how to fix short of replacing the IMS petcock? Is there a separate filter on the petcock for reserve that might be clogged?

If we hadn't been carrying spare fuel, could we have modified the IMS petcock in the field to get us back to camp?
Mine ran out on the highway the other day, was able to reach down and switch to reserve, bike sputtered a bit then came back to life. I have a TM40 carb though, maybe that makes a difference.

The screen for the fuel straw (on position) and for reserve is one and the same. You can use a flashlight to look in your tank and see it. I doubt it's clogged, try running your bike on reserve with a full tank
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:43 PM   #62390
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High 30's? Your thumbnail/website states the average is about 45.
Its jumped from 37-39 (Mefo's) to 44-48 with the Scorpion AT's. Thats a pretty big jump. Im sure once I throw the D606's on in the next month or so I'll drop a few MPG again. Oh well, this bike still rawks
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:27 PM   #62391
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I guess it rattles around in the frame.
I know when I do mine, (with a set screw) i'll centre punch the very top thread on the side, with the hex key in the hole, some thread sealer, and screw it in. That'll stop it from falling in and give it a little bite. No bolt heads to worry about.
I guess it's there to stay

Haven't noticed any rattle lol.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:29 PM   #62392
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I guess it rattles around in the frame.
I know when I do mine, (with a set screw) i'll centre punch the very top thread on the side, with the hex key in the hole, some thread sealer, and screw it in. That'll stop it from falling in and give it a little bite. No bolt heads to worry about.
I wrapped my set screw with teflon tape several times and made it a much better fit. Tightened it up until it was flush and it should be good to go!
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:40 PM   #62393
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A Canadian Oriental Eastern Beaver to be precise, from Japan. You really gotta get out more .
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:16 PM   #62394
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I know the IMS petcocks don't have a great reputation, but are they really POS? My buddy and I were both running our DRs on a long route in Death Valley and carrying an extra gallon of fuel each so we could run our IMS tanks until hitting reserve and then down to empty to find out what our ranges were.

Well we both got a surprise when neither of our bikes would start when we first ran out of fuel and switched to reserve. We could see the fuel in the tank right at the top level of the petcock. We ended up having to add our spare fuel to continue the ride and so we didn't learn the real range of our bikes with IMS tanks.

Any ideas on how to fix short of replacing the IMS petcock? Is there a separate filter on the petcock for reserve that might be clogged?

If we hadn't been carrying spare fuel, could we have modified the IMS petcock in the field to get us back to camp?
That happened to me on my way back to AZ from Baja. I was about 15 miles from home when the bike sputtered and I flipped it to reserve, but got nothing until I stopped and laid the bike over to transfer the fuel from the right lobe. Made it home with next to nothing left. I had plenty of opportunities to get fuel, but I was trying to drain the tank because I knew I'd be doing a full service on the bike when I got back - worked out perfect.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:55 PM   #62395
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Its jumped from 37-39 (Mefo's) to 44-48 with the Scorpion AT's. Thats a pretty big jump. Im sure once I throw the D606's on in the next month or so I'll drop a few MPG again. Oh well, this bike still rawks
I've never noticed more then 1-2 mpg difference in tires. I've ran deathwings, IRC GP-1, Dunlop 606s, and Scorpion Trails. I don't think I could make my DR get in the 30s! Bone stock it was 50mpg on the nose. I've rejetted, muffler, air box mod blah blah blah and it now gets 47-48. If I run 75 mph for 3-4 hrs on the highway it might drop to 45. And that is with my 220lbs, saddle bags (another 30-50lbs of gear) and a tombstone windscreen.

Just from my personal experience and what others get I would say if it is in the 30's you had something wrong.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:56 PM   #62396
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What you lot on about? This IS the stock DR650 tail light! .


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Thats a very neat tail you have there . Nice job!
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:39 PM   #62397
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I know the IMS petcocks don't have a great reputation, but are they really POS? My buddy and I were both running our DRs on a long route in Death Valley and carrying an extra gallon of fuel each so we could run our IMS tanks until hitting reserve and then down to empty to find out what our ranges were.

Well we both got a surprise when neither of our bikes would start when we first ran out of fuel and switched to reserve. We could see the fuel in the tank right at the top level of the petcock. We ended up having to add our spare fuel to continue the ride and so we didn't learn the real range of our bikes with IMS tanks.

Any ideas on how to fix short of replacing the IMS petcock? Is there a separate filter on the petcock for reserve that might be clogged?

If we hadn't been carrying spare fuel, could we have modified the IMS petcock in the field to get us back to camp?
My experience: I have the Raptor petcock on an IMS tank, pig tail (loop) in the fuel line; I did NOT rotate the carb fuel inlet. As a test, I ran the bike with petcock "On" till it stopped. Opened the gas cap and fuel was right at the top of the tube where it should be. Turned the petcock to Reserve and ran again until the bike stopped. Looked in and the tank was dry. It took ALL the fuel, so the pig tail/ uphill loop held nothing back. Tell you this, though. At 65 mph, reserve took me only 11 miles! Normal mpg for me is 56 ~ 57. I never did measure how many (fractional) gallons is on reserve. I did slosh some gas from the right side to limp another 1/2 mile to a gas station instead of pouring in my emergency supply.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:14 PM   #62398
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A Heads Up--Wolfman racks on a DR 650

Last May I purchased a set of Wolfman Expedition saddle bags, racks, and a Pro Moto billet tail rack for my wife’s DR 650. The installation was quick, painless and Dee really liked the combo.
Fast forward……..February 2012. Dee ordered a set of Wolfman bags, racks, and the Pro Moto billet tail rack for my DR as an early birthday present to replace my well used, scruffy nylon Hondaline bags and E-bay BBQ racks and tail rack. The box of treasures arrived from Pro Cycle and my marching orders were to get them installed before we left for Big Bend. The first clue to the puzzle was that the new Wolfman racks had 3 mounting legs instead of the two that were on Dee’s bike. I spent all of a Friday evening trying to make the combo fit on my DR. Finally I was able to make the side racks work with the old E-bay tail rack, but no way would the Pro Moto billet tail rack fit. It appeared that the hardware kit wasn’t the proper one for this install. A call to Carl at Pro Cycle went something like this: me: “no way will this combo work.” Carl: “ sure it will, just leave all the bolts loose and get it all lined up.” Me: “ nope, it won’t fit, and what’s the deal with this third mounting leg on these racks? I don’t think this hardware kit is correct for this combo.” I finally convinced Carl that I did know a screwdriver from a wrench and that there might be a problem. He would check with Wolfman and get back with me. I then fired up the computer and found Wolfman’s website. Viola! The side racks I now owned were new “Gen 2” side racks and the website listed several different hardware kits, depending on what tail rack was being installed. I would have thought that since we ordered the bags, racks, and tail rack as a package the proper hardware would be included. After a week wait and no word from Carl I called him and yep, he said I needed a different hardware package….duh! He was to procure the proper hardware and send it to me.
Time had run out and we went to Big Bend, and had a great time riding the Park on our DR’s. The Wolfman Expedition saddle bags worked very well. I was wishing for the new tail rack, but the old BBQ rack was fine, as usual. The hardware kit was waiting for me when we returned and after 10 minutes the Pro Moto billet rack was now on my bike. Life is good…….almost. Another gotcha. The new setup requires the removal of the passenger grab handles. No problem…right? Wrong, since the rear turn signals mount on the grab handles! And of course, Pro Moto makes rear turn signal relocation brackets.
I talked to Carl today and he tells me that I received the first production “Gen 2” racks. He said that everything was supposed to fit like the old racks according to Wolfman. I suggested that he might want to take some notes and let prospective customers know what is involved with this install. It sounds like Pro Cycle was blindsided by this “Gen 2” rack stuff so I’m not too irritated with them.
So…… we are very happy with the setups now that everything fits. If you are planning on purchasing Wolfman side racks for your DR I would advise you to first go to the Wolfman website and try to determine what hardware kits you need. The info about the Wolfman racks on Pro Cycle’s website will lead you astray, so I would recommend talking to the vendor you purchase from to hopefully make sure you receive the proper set up.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:47 PM   #62399
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Hey GarryC

Any pics with the Wolfman setup?

Seriously thinking about the the side racks and expedition bags for my DR. Currently have the Moose rear top rack and hoping the Wolfman side racks would fit without needing to swap my rear top rack.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #62400
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What you lot on about? This IS the stock DR650 tail light! .



Thats a very neat tail you have there . Nice job!
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