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Old 04-07-2012, 04:16 PM   #62551
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Thanks for the offer but there's really no need. I have the lowered Pivot Pegz combo on my own DR and would never go back to the stock peg setup.
Do you have to do something with the brake lever when you use the lower pegs?
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:23 PM   #62552
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After reading threads on ADV. Rider for over a month now, I'm convinced that there will be a new or used Dr650se sitting in my driveway this spring. Is there any year or years that seem better than others to buy? I see the base gasket had some issue for a few years, any thing else? looking at the DR Thread, the bikes look unchanged for many years. I like that, why change things when something works? My friends want me to buy a KLR, but I like the simplicity of my old XT 500 Yammy and looks to me that the Dr650se is the one to buy for my riding.

If I buy a new 2012 model, What kind of deals are you guys getting? The MSRP is $5999.00 it looks to me. I live by Spokane, WA. is it worth the drive to say Seattle or Portland? I would pay the extra for the 5 year extended warranty. Do admit to, Not finding any used bikes here, unless I go for a KLR. Thanks for any info. VM.
KLRs are fine bikes. I bought the DR over the KLR because I wanted a more dirt oriented machine than the KLR. KLR is 70/30 seventy percent road/30 percent off road. The DR does not have a radiator with its associated waterpump, hoses etc. to break. The KLR is heavier by about a hundred pounds. I did not want the big fairing that the KLR has. And the DR IMHO is prettier. Each rider has to decide on a machine based on its intended use. Are you going to ride more on road or off road? Will the height of the DR or KLR bother you? Let me end this section with saying both are good simple machines that will give the rider years of fun. The DR is a compromise between an road bike and off road machine. It does both adequately, but not as well as a dedicated road bike does on the road, or a dirt bike does off the tarmac. I love my DR, she does what I want her to.
A couple of things to consider about the year model to buy. Another inmate has already mentioned the 2003s having the metal base gasket between the top of the engine and bottom of the engine. The paper gasket is known to leak. If you do not want to mess with that buy an 03 or later. I read somewhere that some of the 03s had the paper gasket too. As another inmate said there is a little metal tab that sticks out that is the clue that it has the metal gasket. Another concern is 3rd gear bombing with some of the machines. This is a rare happening, but from what I have read, it happens enough to be concerned about. When 3rd gear goes, it often causes serious case damage and the cases are not cheap. Suzuki redesigned the gear system for the 06 models and again for the 08 models. So this may be a factor in the year model you purchase. It made a difference to me so I bought the 09 model. Well I have rambled on enough. Good luck in your quest for a dual sport. They are really fun. Roger
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:26 PM   #62553
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First use of NEW, stiff off road boots are always a challenge, very weird feeling ... but hang in ... you will adapt to them. This is common and well known. Buying a bunch of stuff you don't really need is fine ... but a couple days riding on the bike using the new boots ... all will be fine.

Golng up one spline on the shift lever can help (it's what I do) but mostly you'll need to get used to the numb feel with the Dirt bike boots on your feet. They won't really break in all that much (plastic guards prevent this) but your brain will adapt over time and miles, re-learn muscle memory. Takes a day or two riding for most.

Good news regards new boots is they can save broken toes, ankle or foot and even Tibia ... but are very awkward at first.

BTW, if you want them to be waterproof ... use SNO-SEAL on the leather, bake in a very low oven (125F max) for 10 minutes. Do this every season. Dry feet.
I have wanted to get some riding boots for years but have very wide calfs. Any company make a good boot with room for wide calfs at the top?
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:40 PM   #62554
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I didn't know they still made those things. Will check for them on procycle. Thanks
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:49 PM   #62555
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I have wanted to get some riding boots for years but have very wide calfs. Any company make a good boot with room for wide calfs at the top?
I just pulled the tape out and my calfs are 20 inches and when I got my boots I ask for large calf boots, most of the companys have wide sizes and larger calfs sizes dont forget the socks and pants inside the boots.
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:52 PM   #62556
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I didn't know they still made those things. Will check for them on procycle. Thanks
Divers use plastic bags on hands and feet to get tight wetsuits on, slip right on.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:00 PM   #62557
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Do you have to do something with the brake lever when you use the lower pegs?
Go here, look at the last pic in post #22, then read down from there:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=634746&page=2
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:23 PM   #62558
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I sent my seat off to seat concepts, can't wait to get it back. I've got a 500 mile DS ride on 5/5 -5/6, that should be a good test.
I got mine last week,will see how it goes against the Corbin.
The service from Seat Concepts would be hard to beat.

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Old 04-07-2012, 05:34 PM   #62559
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I have wanted to get some riding boots for years but have very wide calfs. Any company make a good boot with room for wide calfs at the top?
I really like mine. http://www.atv.com/products/thor-505...view-1451.html

PC- write up-
The 50/50 boot was designed and developed to provide just the right amount of coverage for situations that don't demand the extensive coverage of a standard MX boot. This is a great boot for dual-sport riding. It is the perfect blend of athletic shoe comfort and fit, and the rugged durability and coverage of an MX boot. Every detail has been refined to deliver the lightest, most comfortable, yet durable boot on the market. Weighing in at just 27 ounces the 50/50 boot is less than half the weight of standard MX boots yet tough as nails. And the comfort level is amazing.
  • Light weight injection molded outsole with aggressive lug pattern
  • Reinforced medial area with padding for comfort against the frame
  • Contoured gaitor for increased mobility and comfort
  • Adjustable positive-lock aluminum alloy buckles
  • Integrated toe cap/shift protector

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Old 04-07-2012, 05:37 PM   #62560
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KLRs are fine bikes. I bought the DR over the KLR because I wanted a more dirt oriented machine than the KLR. KLR is 70/30 seventy percent road/30 percent off road. The DR does not have a radiator with its associated waterpump, hoses etc. to break. The KLR is heavier by about a hundred pounds. I did not want the big fairing that the KLR has. And the DR IMHO is prettier. Each rider has to decide on a machine based on its intended use. Are you going to ride more on road or off road? Will the height of the DR or KLR bother you? Let me end this section with saying both are good simple machines that will give the rider years of fun. The DR is a compromise between an road bike and off road machine. It does both adequately, but not as well as a dedicated road bike does on the road, or a dirt bike does off the tarmac. I love my DR, she does what I want her to.
A couple of things to consider about the year model to buy. Another inmate has already mentioned the 2003s having the metal base gasket between the top of the engine and bottom of the engine. The paper gasket is known to leak. If you do not want to mess with that buy an 03 or later. I read somewhere that some of the 03s had the paper gasket too. As another inmate said there is a little metal tab that sticks out that is the clue that it has the metal gasket. Another concern is 3rd gear bombing with some of the machines. This is a rare happening, but from what I have read, it happens enough to be concerned about. When 3rd gear goes, it often causes serious case damage and the cases are not cheap. Suzuki redesigned the gear system for the 06 models and again for the 08 models. So this may be a factor in the year model you purchase. It made a difference to me so I bought the 09 model. Well I have rambled on enough. Good luck in your quest for a dual sport. They are really fun. Roger
a few comments. i wanted a motard-style bike; wirtually 100% street. i went w/a dr650 because i wanted lighter weight and simplicity and low cost. w/proper mods - suspension/exhaust/new carb, (and for me, motard wheels/tires) - it is a killer street bike, imo. comfortable up to 80mph on the highway w/stock gearing, if that is your pleasure. and, plenty of power w/the upgraded carb & exhaust.

re: issues, i would recommend the best-condition, least expensive bike you can find, perhaps w/mods that you are awreddy interested in; any year from '96 on up. i understand there was a starter gear issue that needs to be addressed on the 98/99 iterations, that costs ~$200? i wouldn't worry about the base gasket thing; many pre-'03 bikes never seem to be afflicted, and i understand it's only a minor issue if it starts to seep, and not that huge a deal to repair if you want to get rid of the seepage.

re: 3rd gear blow-ups, all years are afflicted, even tho the numbers are small, regardless of whatever "changes" were made in '06 & '08. they were certainly not upgrades or redesigns; likely yust another supplier w/a slightly different casting mold. only the 2000 models have no reports of blow-ups, but i suspect this is a coincidence more than anything else. and, there will soon be awailable stronger 3rd gear sets, made from billet, perhaps cryo'd and shot-peened - check the dr650 3rd gear blow up thread. i wouldn't be too concerned anyway - we're talking about a fraction of a percent of bikes that had this happen...

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Old 04-07-2012, 06:02 PM   #62561
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They'll set you back about $400, but I've read good things about the HT SL racks and Mojave bags for a neat, no-fuss set up:

http://www.happy-trail.com/Mojave-So...Bags-Pair.aspx

More here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758746

Sarah
Thanks Sarah & Trophy. All look like good bags, gonna check them out. Hit a couple dealers today. Only one had a bike. He wouldn't move off $6k (there are setup or freight fees). I hate to pay that much but if I buy used I need to pay cash for the bike and still come up with a couple three grand for commuting gear. The other dealer was about $270 cheaper but no bike until May.

Anyone see better prices out there? Thanks for everyone's help. Its pretty difficult sifting through 4,000 pages...

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Old 04-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #62562
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New shoes........

Michelin Anakee 2's on my '98.....Put a hundred miles on them today and like them a lot. Smooth, quiet and not bad on dirt roads.


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Old 04-07-2012, 06:53 PM   #62563
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Michelin Anakee 2's on my '98.....Put a hundred miles on them today and like them a lot. Smooth, quiet and not bad on dirt roads.


Is that a 120 or 130 it looks like a 120 rear It takes about a hundred miles to get the tire gripping.
I still have the stock deathwings on and I have to say the DWs are not that bad, I have a set of 705s waiting to be spooned on when the time comes I have the 705- 130/80-17 rear 90/90-21 front from PC and paid $125 for the set hard to beat!
have fun with the new shoes I bet when you go into the garage you smell the new rubber.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:07 PM   #62564
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Thanks carcajou, and doug s,
Beaverton Suzy in Beaverton, OR. will sell me one for $5699.99 plus T & Lic. Right now in Spokane, WA. I'm looking at $6075.00 plus T & Lic. or just under $6600.00 out the door. Just have to wait here in Spokane for 2 weeks for the new order of bikes to come in............ I do like to help keep the local guys doors open, plus I hope the service dept. will get my bike done first when they need to work on three bikes and my bike id the local one!!! VM.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:16 PM   #62565
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Is that a 120 or 130 it looks like a 120 rear It takes about a hundred miles to get the tire gripping.
I still have the stock deathwings on and I have to say the DWs are not that bad, I have a set of 705s waiting to be spooned on when the time comes I have the 705- 130/80-17 rear 90/90-21 front from PC and paid $125 for the set hard to beat!
have fun with the new shoes I bet when you go into the garage you smell the new rubber.
That's the 130/80-17 on the back and the 90/90-21 on the front. I was about to buy a set of 705's and ran across these. Bought them from an inmate for $180 delivered to my door. They are brand new, with the stickers on them when they arrived. They are about $250 for the set from Bike Bandit, so it seemed like a pretty good deal.

Post up the 705's when you get them on and let us know how they are working out. They look like a great deal...
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