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Old 04-08-2012, 03:52 AM   #62581
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Did you find a seat for your DR?
Hi Garry--- Thanks very much for asking. My Seat Concepts kit arrived Fedex late yesterday..... we've got family doings for Easter so it'll be a day or two before I can get it together. Can't wait, it's quality looking stuff.

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Old 04-08-2012, 06:49 AM   #62582
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Carb O-Rings

I have my carb apart for a (needed) cleaning. I see two o-rings of different sizes on the orange plastic float assembly (one above the float valve and one near the pilot jet tube). Would anyone happen to know the sizes of those two o-rings? I have a local hardware store with a great selection of metric o-rings and, hopefully, can source them there.

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Old 04-08-2012, 07:33 AM   #62583
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Question for Pro cycle (or anyone else in-the-know).

Do the Wolfman Expedition saddle bags come with the new style racks? If so, are they compatible with the e-bay BBQ rack?

BTW, I am really happy with the order I placed last week. Among many other things, I got a Pro cycle Jet Kit and installed it today. Simple installation and much improved throttle response, cool, (but not obnoxious) intake sound and much improved power. Very nice upgrade!
Don't know if you saw my post about this a few days ago (see post #62620). Short story is that that the DR650 racks are now the Gen 2 style and I was able to install the Gen 2 racks with a BBQ rack on my bike. There are different spacer kits for mating the Gen 2 racks with various tail racks.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:54 AM   #62584
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:57 AM   #62585
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TH: That's a nice looking boot; something between my Crossfires (too much boot for my current riding) and my Joe Rockets (not really enough boot for my current riding). The Crossfires fit me llike gloves and I like the protection they provide. I'll be trying on a pair of those Gaerne's as soon as I find them (I don't buy footwear without trying them on).
My new boots are Gaerne Balance Oiled. I have wide feet and big calves. The boots were comfortable right out of the box.

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Old 04-08-2012, 09:11 AM   #62586
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but my Sidi Crossfires are pretty adjustable. (should be for $600)
Yup, the Crossfires fit my 21" calves, knee pads, and socks no problem. One of the few boots that has the extra calf adjustment.
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:31 AM   #62587
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carb jetting Q

Hey guys! I looked at my spark plugs today and they were black. So going by this guide it says to run it at full throttle and check to see if they're black or white or tan as a first step to determining jetting needs. Now considering that my plugs are already black, will that mean that if it's too lean at full throttle they won't be white? Do I need to clean the plugs first before I test for lean/rich mixture?

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Old 04-08-2012, 11:43 AM   #62588
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Hey guys! I looked at my spark plugs today and they were black. So going by this guide it says to run it at full throttle and check to see if they're black or white or tan as a first step to determining jetting needs. Now considering that my plugs are already black, will that mean that if it's too lean at full throttle they won't be white? Do I need to clean the plugs first before I test for lean/rich mixture?

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How old is your bike and how many miles? What's your gas mileage, has it gotten worse? If you've had the bike for a while the jetting may be fine. The two o-rings in the carb may be failing causing a rich mixture at all throttle settings. We spend most of our time on the needle circuit, so this would be the one start with. Since the USA bikes don't have an adjustable needle, you can't drop the needle one clip. This means that I'd check the needle for wear (smaller diameter would flow more gas) and check the needle jet for 'ovaling', another wear point on some bikes (larger hole, more fuel).
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:57 AM   #62589
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Plugs should be a grey color, reminds me of graphite.



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Old 04-08-2012, 12:18 PM   #62590
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A+ to Procycle jet kit.

I installed my PC jetting kit with air box mod and drilled slide, installed a WR450R stock muffler (custom fit) with insert removed a couple weeks ago. Rode it yesterday over back-roads, gravel and some highway. Runs great. Fuel mileage was 53.8 mpg.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:33 PM   #62591
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Tunning by spark plug color is alittle tougher these days,gas burns alot cleaner.Google it,alot different these days:arc(where,timming),) on eletrode,color (how many,heat range) on threads and the color on the base(inside,wide open) of the insolator.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:38 PM   #62592
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Hey guys! I looked at my spark plugs today and they were black. So going by this guide it says to run it at full throttle and check to see if they're black or white or tan as a first step to determining jetting needs. Now considering that my plugs are already black, will that mean that if it's too lean at full throttle they won't be white? Do I need to clean the plugs first before I test for lean/rich mixture?

Thanks!
You are running too Rich. Forget about Full throttle and all that. Black plugs means you are WAY on the rich side and wasting lots of fuel. After you solve the puzzle ... treat your self to NEW PLUGS.

What is your current jetting? (untouched from new?)
What is current altitude?
What air box configuration do you have? (Stock, modified ... or ?)
What exhaust? Stock or other?

An older/high mileage bike could have worn O rings (in float bowl, in float needle) Or could be restriction in air box or non stock Jets, clogged jet, torn rubber diaphragm, fuel or air leak.

Many put in a bigger (richer) Pilot jet. This is wrong. For the stock carb in almost any tuning configuration, the stock Pilot Jet is retained.

A totally stock DR650 will run very very lean. Plugs will be nearly White no matter the throttle opening. This is how the bike was meant to run to pass EPA and such. A Dyno Jet needle/Jet kit will let the Carb be the best it can be and still get decent fuel economy.

I would remove the Carb. Replace the nasty Phillips screws holding float bowl on with Allen head screws. Work slowly and carefully. Choke and Throttle cables come off. All vent hose removed, put out of way. Take Pics so you know how it all goes back.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:53 PM   #62593
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My new boots are Gaerne Balance Oiled. I have wide feet and big calves. The boots were comfortable right out of the box.

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Old 04-08-2012, 12:56 PM   #62594
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Michelin Anakee 2's on my '98.....Put a hundred miles on them today and like them a lot. Smooth, quiet and not bad on dirt roads.


I could be wrong here, but doesn't the axle shaft go through the other direction? Just something I noticed. Guess it wont make a difference if the spacers are placed correctly. But my Axle shaft is running through from the other direction. Maybe I screwed up....
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:59 PM   #62595
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edit:r emoved bad photos
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I may be wrong about them being black, so I took some photos!



The other plug is like grey on one side and black on the other..

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How old is your bike and how many miles? What's your gas mileage, has it gotten worse? If you've had the bike for a while the jetting may be fine. The two o-rings in the carb may be failing causing a rich mixture at all throttle settings. We spend most of our time on the needle circuit, so this would be the one start with. Since the USA bikes don't have an adjustable needle, you can't drop the needle one clip. This means that I'd check the needle for wear (smaller diameter would flow more gas) and check the needle jet for 'ovaling', another wear point on some bikes (larger hole, more fuel).
The bike is an 09 with 11k miles. I get about 38mpg city, 46 highway ~70mph, moderate hills. I've only had the bike for three weeks. The previous owner rejetted it, I am not very familiar with carb construction and function even though i've read many articles. When I take it apart I'm sure the rest of your post will make sense to me!

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They might be grey, but they looked black to me

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Tunning by spark plug color is alittle tougher these days,gas burns alot cleaner.Google it,alot different these days:arc(where,timming),) on eletrode,color (how many,heat range) on threads and the color on the base(inside,wide open) of the insolator.
doh........ I have more reading to do then :x


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You are running too Rich. Forget about Full throttle and all that. Black plugs means you are WAY on the rich side and wasting lots of fuel. After you solve the puzzle ... treat your self to NEW PLUGS.

What is your current jetting? (untouched from new?)
What is current altitude?
What air box configuration do you have? (Stock, modified ... or ?)
What exhaust? Stock or other?

An older/high mileage bike could have worn O rings (in float bowl, in float needle) Or could be restriction in air box or non stock Jets, clogged jet, torn rubber diaphragm, fuel or air leak.

Many put in a bigger (richer) Pilot jet. This is wrong. For the stock carb in almost any tuning configuration, the stock Pilot Jet is retained.

A totally stock DR650 will run very very lean. Plugs will be nearly White no matter the throttle opening. This is how the bike was meant to run to pass EPA and such. A Dyno Jet needle/Jet kit will let the Carb be the best it can be and still get decent fuel economy.

I would remove the Carb. Replace the nasty Phillips screws holding float bowl on with Allen head screws. Work slowly and carefully. Choke and Throttle cables come off. All vent hose removed, put out of way. Take Pics so you know how it all goes back.
The current jetting is unknown to me. The previous owner told me the previous previous owner had rejetted it and cut the airbox(the whole top of the airbox under the seat is gone, k&n filter). And after this the first previous owner(guy I bought it from) told me he put the next biggest main jet in. So I really have no idea how it's setup currently, and no way to find out unless I'm lucky enough that the parts are labeled what they are.

I'm probably 500 feet over sea level, central alabama.
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I will give a shot at taking the whole thing apart today and maybe I won't tear it up

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