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Old 04-14-2012, 10:10 PM   #62926
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The handle bar question

I have read a little on this forum about bars for taller riders in the 6ft tall range. Well I am 6ft 5 in and have been riding my 650 for 3 years. Until now it was mostly road riding so I never had to stand. Now that I live in CO I have access to many trails that require a more aggressive stance.

Any taller riders out there suggest either 2 inch risers, or do I just go with all new bars with an extreme rise? I am also contemplating peg lowerers

I do not really want to rework a lot of the wiring to reach the higher bars.

Any suggestions?
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:16 PM   #62927
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So I went for a ride Monday on some kinda gnarly, sometimes rocky, tight singletrack. No doubt I'm still new to this whole dirtbike thing, but wrestling my DR was a bear.

It didn't help that my battery died for unexplained reasons, and I had to push this 400lb-ish beast 1/2 mile up and down this gnarliness (~3 hrs pushin'). Bump starting was a no-go on at least a dozen tries.

So, do you guys even bother riding this stuff with the DR? I'm feeling like I need something in the 250-400cc range for this stuff... and a kick start. The DR just feels like it's too heavy, too big and not enough suspension travel (I bottomed out many times).

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I've ridden the DR through some pretty rough and technical single track and hill climbs. It is definetly NOT the best bike for that terrain but you can still have a lot of fun with the right mods.
I did the gold valve up front and rear with heavier springs, bash plate is a must. 14T up front and 44T in back. D606 knobbies. Keep the stock seat for offroad and load a bunch of luggage or windscreens and it's a very capable dirt bike.

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Old 04-14-2012, 10:32 PM   #62928
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I have read a little on this forum about bars for taller riders in the 6ft tall range. Well I am 6ft 5 in and have been riding my 650 for 3 years. Until now it was mostly road riding so I never had to stand. Now that I live in CO I have access to many trails that require a more aggressive stance.

Any taller riders out there suggest either 2 inch risers, or do I just go with all new bars with an extreme rise? I am also contemplating peg lowerers

I do not really want to rework a lot of the wiring to reach the higher bars.

Any suggestions?
I went with 3" higher rise bars and just had to re-route the throttle cables. Going with higher bars makes it easier to mount things such as hand guards, ram mounts, acc plugs etc
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:55 PM   #62929
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I've ridden the DR through some pretty rough and technical single track and hill climbs. It is definetly NOT the best bike for that terrain but you can still have a lot of fun with the right mods.
I did the gold valve up front and rear with heavier springs, bash plate is a must. 14T up front and 44T in back. D606 knobbies. Keep the stock seat for offroad and load a bunch of luggage or windscreens and it's a very capable dirt bike.

http://youtu.be/Qb8LOqm3G14
I second that motion!!! I've done that kind of stuff on my F800 (500+ lbs loaded up). My DR feels light by comparison. And a 450 feels lighter still. But, having ridden everything from 350 to 1600 in just about every condition imaginable, the DR is about as good as you are going to get. It'll jump and land in the dirt. It'll do 90 on the highway. It'll carry gear (lot's of gear if needed). It'll lighten up and give the 450s some really good competition on single track and in hill climbs with only a few choice mods. It'll even take on street bikes if you set it up right.

My opinion...DR650 is the perfect bike. Farkle to meet your needs, ride, smile, repeat

I have mine set up as an almost plug and play bike. Started by stripping off a lot of unnecessary stuff/weight like the stock turn signals, license plate bracket, gas tank, bolts, brackets, etc. Fabricated or mounted minimal light weight alternatives. Bought and added mounting setup for Pelicans with more storage capacity than the Vario cases that I put on the F800 (at only a fraction of the weight). In about an hours worth of wrenching time I can either lighten my DR 650 to almost the same weight as the DRZ (and tackle the same terrain) or add the components for it to be a heavy hauler that'll go round the world.

Doesn't get better than that as far as versatility goes. You just have to be willing to forget about "stock" options and make the bike yours by "doing" things to it to tune it to your needs (ie personal modifications).

As a for instance...even with my hard bag setup I doubt my DR weighs more than about 375 lbs after I minimized the things I didn't need on it. If your DR650 weighs 400 lbs or more...you need to put it on a diet and think about what you've added to it that you don't need.

With every ride I'm falling more and more in love with my DR650.
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:59 AM   #62930
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Well since I just picked up a used 2000 DR650 I thought that I would take a few minutes and throw on some new grips! I went to slice them off like all the other bikes I have ever done and was a bit surprised to find out that the thorttle grip is formed on to the tube. This is all that I could find from the past that was posted on this subject:

"My stock throttle grip was hell to remove, vulcanized (I think that's the term) to the throttle tube. Are you sure you were dealing with the factory grips? Don't mean to dispute, just wondering.

Sarah

So live and learn can I get some ideas from someone on how you handled this or any tricks you did to reuse the one that is on there? HELP! Thanks.
Wow this must be a sore subject only one reply? Or everyone just said screw it I'm never changing those grips?
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:13 AM   #62931
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Hey Ride-til-sore!

I'm the one you quoted in your post. Those factory grips are the devil. You'll just have to keep sanding til you get the old one clean, or go buy a new one. The Motion Pro tube is around $10 I think.

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Old 04-15-2012, 03:36 AM   #62932
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...No leaky leaky anymore either.

You all rock for helping this rider out!!!
Good work. Don't think anyone mentioned it but a typical cause for popping the CCT gasket is too much oil.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:23 AM   #62933
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Hey Ride-til-sore!

I'm the one you quoted in your post. Those factory grips are the devil. You'll just have to keep sanding til you get the old one clean, or go buy a new one. The Motion Pro tube is around $10 I think.

Sarah
Thanks Sarah. I found more then enough info and Ideas on the Thumper site.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:33 AM   #62934
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I have read a little on this forum about bars for taller riders in the 6ft tall range. Well I am 6ft 5 in and have been riding my 650 for 3 years. Until now it was mostly road riding so I never had to stand. Now that I live in CO I have access to many trails that require a more aggressive stance.

Any taller riders out there suggest either 2 inch risers, or do I just go with all new bars with an extreme rise? I am also contemplating peg lowerers

I do not really want to rework a lot of the wiring to reach the higher bars.

Any suggestions?
The PO of my DR did Renthal bars risers and lowered the foot pegs. He was about 6'2" or taller. TheDR is very comfy to stand on. So I suggest you do it all. Procycle has everything I believe. How is the suspension?
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:16 AM   #62935
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I just mounted a set of Kendas this week.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:23 AM   #62936
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Good work. Don't think anyone mentioned it but a typical cause for popping the CCT gasket is too much oil.
Or riding to many wheelies
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:25 AM   #62937
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Well since I just picked up a used 2000 DR650 I thought that I would take a few minutes and throw on some new grips! I went to slice them off like all the other bikes I have ever done and was a bit surprised to find out that the thorttle grip is formed on to the tube. This is all that I could find from the past that was posted on this subject:

"My stock throttle grip was hell to remove, vulcanized (I think that's the term) to the throttle tube. Are you sure you were dealing with the factory grips? Don't mean to dispute, just wondering.

Sarah

So live and learn can I get some ideas from someone on how you handled this or any tricks you did to reuse the one that is on there? HELP! Thanks.
I was able to whitle of my old one on my 2003, and I think I cut the last 1/8" off the tube, it was a PITA, I bought a new one from Motion Pro for my 2008, it was 11 or 12 bucks, well worth it !!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:42 AM   #62938
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Yeah, I'm sure we could sell a few. I think it would take a long time to move 50 of them. I've sold about 20 of the 'weld on' guards in the year and a half since I had them made.
Thanks for picking up on my comment and replying! This is what I Ilove about Procycle. You are paying attention to the market you serve and providing a great service to the dual sport community, especially here on the DR650 forum!

I think the "bolt on" disc guard that replaces the brake carrier could possibly sell better than the weld on, but I might be wrong. I may end up having one welded on mine, but would rather replace the brake carrier with a machined part,

I wouldn't expect Procycle to commit to the 50 it would take to get Scotts to sell them, just thinking they would sell if they were available and more prople would see them on your web site. It's sort of like the "Sears Wish Book" for dual sport bikes!

Again, thanks for paying attention!
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:52 AM   #62939
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I was able to whitle of my old one on my 2003, and I think I cut the last 1/8" off the tube, it was a PITA, I bought a new one from Motion Pro for my 2008, it was 11 or 12 bucks, well worth it !!!!!!!!!
Yeah, even if your time is only worth $3/hr you'll still come out ahead with the MotionPro tube.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:15 AM   #62940
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Take the throttle tube with the stock grip to a bench grinder with a wire wheel. It'll chew the grip off the tube and it takes no time. Won't even scar the tube.
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