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Old 05-04-2012, 09:36 AM   #63781
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Hey msanna, what rear shock are you testing here? A stock shock with new parts?

Thanks, matt
Matt, yes, i had the forks and rear shock rebuilt with new internals from Custom Axis, which is Penske Racing Shocks.
They're 15 minutes from me and I've always used them on my track bikes and was always happy with their work.
http://www.customaxisshocks.com/Home.php
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:02 AM   #63782
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I used the Coretech Tailbag on my WR250X/R and it held pants, shirt, shoes, and a couple bottles of Snapple. Seems about the size you're looking for...

As for what the stock rack can hold, I have no idea. My 2012 didn't come with a Tail Rack. I'm still looking for a decent one.
i like these; strong and unobtrusive; maybe not what you want for rtw fully loaded expeditions, but great for everything else, imo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170830652442


i actually found an older model, the same except w/metal mesh between the bars. i paid ~$30 for it used...

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:25 AM   #63783
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Heck, I'd like to know how you are getting 50 with the TM 40? Riding the bike hard I get 40, riding the bike like a wuss I get 40.
So you're saying that your bike can't tell the difference between your hard riding and wuss riding? Hmm wonder why that is? j/k
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:27 AM   #63784
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What would be a good bag to attach to the rear cargo rack for carrying a change of clothes, a couple bottles of water? Can the stock rack hold say 15 pounds?

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I also use the Coretech tail bag. Comes with bungie hooks already attatched to the bag. Probably could hold enough clothes for 2-3 days.

I don't know what you call the stock rack, but I don't have any rack on mine. I just lay the bag accross the fender and grab bars. I never weighed all my stuff but I carried that bag full, a tent and a full camel back all strapped down to the back with no problems going accross the TAT. I would say an easy 20-30 lbs.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:52 AM   #63785
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Ogio comes with quick release tie downs attached and expands when necessary. Also has a built in pad in case you don't have a rack. http://www.amazon.com/Ogio-110091-36.../dp/B0035JLODK

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:02 AM   #63786
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I also use the Coretech tail bag. Comes with bungie hooks already attatched to the bag. Probably could hold enough clothes for 2-3 days.

I don't know what you call the stock rack, but I don't have any rack on mine. I just lay the bag accross the fender and grab bars. I never weighed all my stuff but I carried that bag full, a tent and a full camel back all strapped down to the back with no problems going accross the TAT. I would say an easy 20-30 lbs.
+1 Coretech tail bag, no rack, fastened to grab bars. I find that something over the top (Rok straps), to hold the bag down, helps quite a bit. The stock bungee cord set-up only holds the bottom still. The stuff in the bag can sway at will. The stock bungies are dead, almost no elastic action remaining. The bag is a 2004 IIRC

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:09 AM   #63787
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No kidding, I don't think the size of the rotor is that much of the issue. The rotor on my 690 is only 10 mm bigger. Pretty sure it's the rest of the stuff. The Brembo brake on my 690 stops it like a sport bike. Granted, the bike is like 60 lbs lighter and that is going to have an effect on stopping power but I can't help but think the Brembo stuff just works better then the Nissin.
No question the Brembo stuff is better than stock DR items. But the Nissin stuff on the DR is very old spec. Hasn't changed since 1996 (or before?) The Brembo pieces on KTM's are modern and most developed around 2005 or later.

Modern Japanese Moto crossers using Nissin brake systems stop a lot better (even despite much less weight). So an upgrade to a modern system would be an improvement on the DR, whether Brembo or Nissin.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:18 AM   #63788
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So you're saying that your bike can't tell the difference between your hard riding and wuss riding? Hmm wonder why that is? j/k
At least my buddy Todd's bike which is completely stock got different mileage. When we were flogging the bikes he got 37 when we rode like an ADV'er he got 46.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:25 AM   #63789
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Matt, yes, i had the forks and rear shock rebuilt with new internals from Custom Axis, which is Penske Racing Shocks.
They're 15 minutes from me and I've always used them on my track bikes and was always happy with their work.
http://www.customaxisshocks.com/Home.php
Thanks msanna for the link. I'm needing to get my rear redone soon; I'll look into axis.

Cheers, matt
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:35 AM   #63790
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Thanks msanna for the link. I'm needing to get my rear redone soon; I'll look into axis.

Cheers, matt

Try finding a used shock on Fleabay so you can get it re-worked while still riding on yours. Then you can sell yours to recoup some of your expenses.

I'm doing something similar to that. I picked up a shock (08 DR650) for $149 and forks (07 DR650) for $100 and I'm sending those off to be modded with straight rate springs and valving for more aggressive off-road oriented riding.

When I install them, then I'm going to send my stockers off to another company for different valving and progressive spring rates more oriented for street/light trail work.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:45 AM   #63791
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What would be a good bag to attach to the rear cargo rack for carrying a change of clothes, a couple bottles of water? Can the stock rack hold say 15 pounds?

NC
The DR650 rear sub frame is pretty strong. You can easily carry 20 to 25 lbs. on the tail rack, even over rough terrain. Where KLR, BMW, XR-L sub frames bend or break with a load, the DR seems strong enough to handle it.

I have a few tail bags, but use my old Tourmaster Cortech (old style). It's not waterproof and leaks dust. I use inner bags. Pics below.


I mounted a simple piece of plywood on the stock Suzuki rack to widen the platform to hold a wider bag securely.



This was loaded for a 5 day ride and included Winter gear, (electric jacket, extra gloves and more)


Another random tail bag. Not sure who makes it. This one is directly on the rack itself. A bit small me thinks. l


Saddlemen make some nice tail bags at decent prices. They have a couple nice ones.
http://www.saddlemen.com/store/index...ndex&cPath=239
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:45 AM   #63792
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Try finding a used shock on Fleabay so you can get it re-worked while still riding on yours. Then you can sell yours to recoup some of your expenses.

I'm doing something similar to that. I picked up a shock (08 DR650) for $149 and forks (07 DR650) for $100 and I'm sending those off to be modded with straight rate springs and valving for more aggressive off-road oriented riding.

When I install them, then I'm going to send my stockers off to another company for different valving and progressive spring rates more oriented for street/light trail work.
That's a great idea; and one I would be all over if I had the cash. It's hard enough to come up with $500 for the shock. Earlier this winter I planned to get the Cogent treatment while the bike was hibernating, but that didn't work out. Me and the missus had a son a few months ago; and strangely enough there is less $$$ for moto upgrades . (I told her she better start budgeting for two riders in the house! )

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:53 AM   #63793
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Hi Paul

So on the 1st full tank since I installed your carb, i still only got 36 mpg, all commuting to work at 35-60 mph on city streets and knobby tires. I just dont believe all you people saying you getting 50+ mpg! :(

So not sure what to think now. I will say it seems to be idling quite high. I don't know how to see what RPM its running at though.

Anyway, I guess my problems are continuing. Too bad.

I was getting 45 to 50 mpg when I took it off and I am getting 50 mph with the tm40.
So I do not know what to tell him.
Any Ideas to help Putzy?
Replace the 2 O-rings on the float assy. It's possible that you are getting extra fuel in the float bowl while running. It doesn't show up as a problem while the bike is off because the petcock is vacuum operated.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:00 PM   #63794
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so your KTM400 is geared too low and vibrates too much on the pavement? This too was one of my possible options for a lighter trail bike.
It's not that bad. I have 13/52 spkts. I put a 14th on for longer road sections. I also got the EE tall/soft seat for it, because sitting on a KTM seat is as bad or worse than the DR650. (I still have the stock seat on my DR) Vibes are nothing like I used to get on the KTM 2 stroke. 5 miles was torture. I routinely ride the 400 for 50+ miles on true dualsport rides, where the dirt roads far out number the trails. Not a problem, you will like the 400 a lot. Just don't expect to street ride it as your commuter bike and like it. But you can race the 400 in any enduro and still be smiling at the end.

With these 2 bikes I can do everything that interests me about motorcycling. Even planning a ride down the Blue Ridge Parkway this fall. I have a bunch of family members who are street riders and invited me along. I have never had any interest in street riding but will do so to take a week long trip with "the family". DR650 with a tire change and sprocket change (back to stock in both cases) and I'll have a street bike. Might borrow an AirHawk seat pad from my uncle also.




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Old 05-04-2012, 12:14 PM   #63795
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as far as bags go, i love my giant loop, can't even tell its there, the weight stays low and tight to the bike.
i rode in this morning through a rainstorm and all is dry
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