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Old 05-07-2012, 06:12 PM   #63961
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I bought one of these gas cap vents and could not get it to stay on.

The nipple on the cap is tappered, and the hose pops off. I put it on, walked away, and came back to find it on the floor. I tried roughing up the sufaces (even inside the hose) with sand paper, pinching the hose with safety wire... even silicone glue wouldn't hold it on! Problem solved with Super Glue, but I wonder how others may have solved this problem, other than buying the locking cap.
Mine did the same thing so I used a piece of rubber fuel line in place of the PU tube it came with. The rubber is much grippier and keeps it all attached without use of glue.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:22 PM   #63962
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Might be looking at a 1999 DR650SE this week. Other than the usual stuff is there anything specific to the DR that I should look for?

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:36 PM   #63963
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I THINK I may have found my problem, but as I said, I'm no electrical guru by any means.

I started with the terminals like you guys suggested, then worked my way to all the wire connections. I found the red wire going into the regulator/rectifier to be extremely corroded, so much that when I lightly touched it, it came apart.

Could this be my issue?
Sounds exactly like what happened to my drz. Those connectors are trouble. The best way to check is to put a multimeter on the battery and start the bike and then poke at the connectors to see if you see a difference. Definately good to check all those before digging into regulator rectifier issues.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #63964
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Might be looking at a 1999 DR650SE this week. Other than the usual stuff is there anything specific to the DR that I should look for?

Ray
Here's the DR's dark side. The most important to you is reading post #21 and all of both links. The two case halves are machined as a pair and must be replaced as a pair. If it happens, it will be less expensive to find a complete replacement motor and they're becoming hard to find.
Other than that.............................................. 31,781 miles and counting.
Oops, guess you'll need the link.

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Old 05-07-2012, 07:00 PM   #63965
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Feel free to post those anywhere they'd help. Thanks for the kind words. Don't forget o-rings to help seal the pedal shaft, for between the outside of the frame and the pedal. I didn't think of the idea until after the project was done so I don't know what diameter the shaft is nor what thickness o-ring might fit best. I have 36 pages of DR notes and posts in a word.doc, not like I can find anything though, indexing something that random has escaped me.
Happy to be of assistance to you!

In a Word document, separate each note / post by a hard horizontal line (hold down Shift and press "_" three times); add a reference word peculiar to the topic at the top or bottom of the note / post so you can use the Find feature, then scroll through all the found reference words. Alternatively you could devise an alpha-numeric sequence peculiar to each topic for the search function, but a sequence not otherwise used in the Word file, as in AA1 = motor topic, AA2 = suspension topic.

Or do like I do (pic of a portion of my harddrive tree):






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Old 05-07-2012, 07:08 PM   #63966
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I had to use super glue on mine also. I didn't really want to go back to this cap, but after having three of the locking gas caps fail(rubber washer thingy) I've decided to go back to the original cap like this. I'm hoping Procycle can get me some of those rubber washer's for caps that have failed, as I really do like them. Also, on my last trip when the cap started leaking when I fueled up, gas got all over my new enduro tank bag, anyone have ideas as to how to get the smell out of the bag? I've washed it several times, and currently, letting it air out in the sun.
Dawn detergent seems to work better than others for getting out the gas smell. I haven't seen one of those locking caps, but I'd suggest cutting a new gasket from rubber inner tube. It won't deteriorate in gas. I soaked several gasket materials and a bit of rubber inner tube in a jar of gas (with ethanol) for over a year as a test, and it stayed solid.
Back to the smell. Hey, I love the sweet smell of gas! Doesn't bother me a bit, on my clothes or anywhere. Wifie doesn't like it though.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:13 PM   #63967
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Mine did the same thing so I used a piece of rubber fuel line in place of the PU tube it came with. The rubber is much grippier and keeps it all attached without use of glue.
Ah, good idea! I'll remember that. I knew there had to be a better way than Super Glue (can't remove).
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:52 PM   #63968
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I bought one of these gas cap vents and could not get it to stay on.

The nipple on the cap is tappered, and the hose pops off. I put it on, walked away, and came back to find it on the floor. I tried roughing up the sufaces (even inside the hose) with sand paper, pinching the hose with safety wire... even silicone glue wouldn't hold it on! Problem solved with Super Glue, but I wonder how others may have solved this problem, other than buying the locking cap.
205'd by scodill. Just drill two holes and carry zip ties.

A tapered nipple on super slippery plastic. I'd carry a short piece of hose (long enough to go down the steering head. The hose in the pic is 1/2" O.D. and fits) and 3 zip ties, in case the Super Glue lets loose on a ride. Everybody carries zip ties, right?

Drill holes in opposing knobs on the cap (blue arrow), large enough for zip ties (ignore the red notes on this pic that I stole on the internet). Drill 'em before ya need 'em. My zip ties are 3/16". The little one on top didn't feel very secure: 1/10"



Crude mock-up. However, it would get you home without a gas bath. Safety wire would be less 'rednek', but shorter lived.



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Happy to be of assistance to you!

In a Word document, separate each note / post by a hard horizontal line (hold down Shift and press "_" three times); add a reference word peculiar to the topic at the top or bottom of the note / post so you can use the Find feature, then scroll through all the found reference words. Alternatively you could devise an alpha-numeric sequence peculiar to each topic for the search function, but a sequence not otherwise used in the Word file, as in AA1 = motor topic, AA2 = suspension topic.

Or do like I do (pic of a portion of my harddrive tree):





Lex
Thanks Lex, the learning never stops. The screen shot is a great help.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:00 PM   #63969
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I'd suggest cutting a new gasket from rubber inner tube. It won't deteriorate in gas. I soaked several gasket materials and a bit of rubber inner tube in a jar of gas (with ethanol) for over a year as a test, and it stayed solid.
Damn, I would have lost a lot of money on that bet, ethanol or not.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:07 PM   #63970
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heads up to ebay bbq rack users w/ pelicans also bolted to it.

repair my ebay bbq rack supports today. the top tube snapped because i had a pelican 1520 bolted to the top and it was overweight for the stainless bolts i used on the forward mount holes. these bolts snapped and then leverage down to the rear and then the top tubes of supports took the weight and then snapped. only thing left holding the rack was the center fender bolt.

had a guy reweld the top tubes and added this support brace w/ some curved bar he had. it's now stronger than new and i'm using instead grade 10.9 button nose bolts to through bolt to the supports. gotta watch how much weight i put in my pelican but i know the whole thing will be alot stronger now.

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Old 05-07-2012, 08:35 PM   #63971
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I bought one of these gas cap vents and could not get it to stay on.

The nipple on the cap is tappered, and the hose pops off. I put it on, walked away, and came back to find it on the floor. I tried roughing up the sufaces (even inside the hose) with sand paper, pinching the hose with safety wire... even silicone glue wouldn't hold it on! Problem solved with Super Glue, but I wonder how others may have solved this problem, other than buying the locking cap.
Hmmm ... Super Glue eh! Well mine was well glued with Super Glue ...
it's gone now! Since then the stock IMS inner rubber dam began to fall apart, I've since gone to locking cap with built in venting.

Keep an eye on it ... Super Glue won't last. I reason mine got lost was I would bump it getting on or off bike. A few too many tweaks and the Super Glue cracks ... bye bye $10 vent!
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #63972
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Did a bunch of stuff on the DR this week, getting ready for summer riding. New plugs, air cleaner, fuel filter, fork oil. I checked the valves: all still within specs at 43,000 miles. Only one exhaust valve has needed any attention (at 4,000 miles) and it's been stable like the others since.

I replaced my after market brake pads (EBC) because I couldn't stand them any more. I put Suzuki pads back on and the difference is very noticeable- decent stopping power again. I was trying to save money with the EBC's but for me it was a waste of money.

Among other things I replaced my battery. The old one was fine and only 2.5 years old, but someone here once said they think of batteries as wear items (like tires) and replace them BEFORE they strand them in the backcountry. What a concept! I decided that was a pretty smart thing to do since I've got plans to ride a lot of passes this summer. (A new battery costs less than most tires.)

Another thing I did was replace the swing arm chain buffer. Here's a pic of old and new- 43,000 miles and about 1/2 worn through.



Most of the wear was on the inside edge where it was hard to see.

.............shu
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:09 PM   #63973
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Hmmm ... Super Glue eh! Well mine was well glued with Super Glue ...
it's gone now! Since then the stock IMS inner rubber dam began to fall apart, I've since gone to locking cap with built in venting.

Keep an eye on it ... Super Glue won't last. I reason mine got lost was I would bump it getting on or off bike. A few too many tweaks and the Super Glue cracks ... bye bye $10 vent!
Anyone try smearing the outside of the nipple with a strong Permatex RTV, like the black or even the copper stuff, then slide on the vent tube? Super glue does like rubber to plastic applications, then throw in fuel vapors or even splash of fuel here and there and it's done.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:53 PM   #63974
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I bought one of these gas cap vents and could not get it to stay on.

The nipple on the cap is tappered, and the hose pops off. I put it on, walked away, and came back to find it on the floor. I tried roughing up the sufaces (even inside the hose) with sand paper, pinching the hose with safety wire... even silicone glue wouldn't hold it on! Problem solved with Super Glue, but I wonder how others may have solved this problem, other than buying the locking cap.
Small zip-tie at the base.
Also I replaced the tube with soft silicon fuel tube (fluro yellow) as then it can expand with the heat instead of popping the breather off onto the ground.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:45 AM   #63975
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Yeah, I've lost a few of those $10 vents. Didn't want to go back to the little vent hose cap, but I've had three of those locking IMS caps from Procycle fail in two yrs. The last one failed 800 miles away from home, and it was messy. I was hoping for either a replacement cap or at least a washer.
I'll have to try the inner tube washer.




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Hmmm ... Super Glue eh! Well mine was well glued with Super Glue ...
it's gone now! Since then the stock IMS inner rubber dam began to fall apart, I've since gone to locking cap with built in venting.

Keep an eye on it ... Super Glue won't last. I reason mine got lost was I would bump it getting on or off bike. A few too many tweaks and the Super Glue cracks ... bye bye $10 vent!
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