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Old 05-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #64426
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Hi,

Now to get to the point of my post, one of the many things I need to sort out on this bike is the ignition switch, which is operational but in a very bad shape. I have to "play" alot with the key to be able to turn it on. Once turned on, it won't retain the key inside. I'm thinking about replacing the ignition switch entirely, but for some reason I can't find any aftermarket one for sale, and the OEM one seems overpriced at over 130$. Does anyone know of an aftermarket ignition switch for the DR650SE? - OR - does the ignition switch of any other Suzuki model fit the DR650SE?
For some reason, I only seem to find aftermarket alternatives for the older, pre-1996 DR's.

Thanks!
http://www.regulatorrectifier.com/catalog/Suzuki-114

I came upon this product line when searching for an aftermarket pick-up coil. One of these key switches may work for you and is $50 or less.

The pick-up coil was purchased from this outfit in California, took two days to reach me and was installed last Saturday. The bike works great now... it had no spark and found an open circuit using the test method in the service manual chapter 6 engine.

Keep us posted on your outcome.

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:11 PM   #64427
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Chain Noise=slapping

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In the course of experiments, I changed from the 14t to the 15t front sprocket. This moved the vibes up to 65-70MPH, and lessened them a bit.

Some things learned, during video and on test rides:

- Going from 14t to 15t sprocket reduces vibes
- Tightening rear spring increases vibes
- Tightening chain (1 notch tighter is just a hair too tight, but I tried anyhow) reduces vibes

What all of these things have in common is: changing the chain-to-top-of-swingarm distance. When the chain runs closer to the top = more vibes and unnerving jackhammering.

I also noticed that the 15t front sprocket allows me to run around town (50-55 MPH) without going to 5th gear. I don't run into the vibe zone (65-70MPH) anymore and I can basically ignore it.

Maybe I'll try a 44t or 45t rear with a 15t or 16t front. That would give me ideal gearing without closing the chain-to-swingarm distance.
Great Video. Have been watching my riding partner's chain and he mine, but the video shows great chain movement. I did put on the ProCycle lower chain roller with bearings. That helped a bunch to be quieter... and not lugging helps too.

Did you ever see the spring loaded chain idler as seen on a Honda ATC 250R? Have been dreaming of attaching one on the lower chain of my DR. Someone out there with great fabrication skills should come up with something for all of us to build.

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:18 PM   #64428
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You guys talk a lot ... Rich
Welcome aboard. Yes... talking motorbikes is the third most fun thing.

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:21 PM   #64429
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I know this has been posted a thousand times (and yes I have searched and am constantly doing so) but my question is this. If YOU had 1,800 dollars to spend on mods/farkles what would you buy? .
Did you get the 0% financing too? Well I know that I have a daughter going to college next year so I think my first couple of hundred dollars is going to gas while I figure out what really needs screwing around with. I know I need the shorter sidestand but may just opt for a centerstand. I may have to ask Santa for a modified seat, skidplate, rear rack, suspension upgrades and a maybe a TM40. If he is feeling stingy I just might have to wait to sell my Guzzi....
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:29 PM   #64430
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Well, I'm officially picking up the DR! Got 'em down to just around 6800 OTD. Looks like this is "average" for the 2012's after looking around. I actually like the grey color too. Next question...

I know this has been posted a thousand times (and yes I have searched and am constantly doing so) but my question is this. If YOU had 1,800 dollars to spend on mods/farkles what would you buy? The bike will be set up for long distance touring with 60/40 road/dirt. This budget is to include bigger tank, rack/bags, and any other comfort/touring/etc. items. Also, if you could look back and do it all again for those who have bought/sold items over the years your experience and wisdom is greatly appreciated! (Trying to stray from the same process haha).
Don't look back or second guess the deal you made. Life is to short to stress over a couple of hundred bucks. ENJOY and welcome!!

Get yourself some case savers (the kind you silicone on), you will drop the bike at some point and the shift lever can punch a hole in the case if not protected.
Also a skid plate for the bottom, and some kind of rear rack. After that it's all personal preferance -- and fun.
And don't forget to remove that top chain roller ASAP!
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #64431
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Move shifter

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Oh DR gurus, I have hit my first minor snag not more than 24 hours into owning the bike... what is the prevailing wisdom of how to raise the stock shifter up a notch or so? I just tried to, but it seems to hit the side of the engine case which wold prevent it from moving enough to upshift it.

I wear boots, and often wear off-road boots. Sure, I can angle my foot and wedge it down under the shifter for upshifts as I have thus far, but on both of my other bikes (in my signature) I've easily raised the shifters to accommodate boots Why would an off-road bike be more limiting than road bikes?

Thanks for any help with this.

A picture of the new (to me) bike out in old grown-over orange groves this morning:

I tried to move the shifter one notch and it did not work so I ordered the PC Pivot Pegz, I will get them friday and use them this weekend so I will let you know how it works.
The pegs move down so your boot can get under the shifter and work the rear brake.Paul
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:55 PM   #64432
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Super editing job on the video. Dont forget the rear suspension is unloaded. It may or may not have something to do with the chain slap. I also wonder if applying rear brake excactly replicates a drive train under load in normal conditions.
+1 Awesome job on the video. But I was also wondering about introducing some new variables with no rider weight on the bike. But you were able to reproduce the problem, so it may be a moot point.

I have not looked up the "correct" way to check the chain (shame on me!) I just do mine the way I've done all my bikes forever, but I'm going to look it up tonight!

Rider weight on the bike will take up some of the slack in the chain. I check my chain with my weight fully on the bike. The chain will be at it's tightest with the swingarm in a straight line. With no weight on the bike the chain will be really loose.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #64433
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Well, I'm officially picking up the DR! Got 'em down to just around 6800 OTD. Looks like this is "average" for the 2012's after looking around. I actually like the grey color too. Next question...

I know this has been posted a thousand times (and yes I have searched and am constantly doing so) but my question is this. If YOU had 1,800 dollars to spend on mods/farkles what would you buy? The bike will be set up for long distance touring with 60/40 road/dirt. This budget is to include bigger tank, rack/bags, and any other comfort/touring/etc. items. Also, if you could look back and do it all again for those who have bought/sold items over the years your experience and wisdom is greatly appreciated! (Trying to stray from the same process haha).
I also bought new I did not want to
wonder how it was taken care of some people do not ever change oil and rev the crap out of it. so welcome and let the upgrades begain!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:04 PM   #64434
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Oh boy....can of worms opened....
(1) seat--(2) tank---(3) TM-40 and pipe.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:05 PM   #64435
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Oh DR gurus, I have hit my first minor snag not more than 24 hours into owning the bike... what is the prevailing wisdom of how to raise the stock shifter up a notch or so? I just tried to, but it seems to hit the side of the engine case which wold prevent it from moving enough to upshift it.

I wear boots, and often wear off-road boots. Sure, I can angle my foot and wedge it down under the shifter for upshifts as I have thus far, but on both of my other bikes (in my signature) I've easily raised the shifters to accommodate boots Why would an off-road bike be more limiting than road bikes?

Thanks for any help with this.

A picture of the new (to me) bike out in old grown-over orange groves this morning:

I lowered my pegs by having the stock pegs cut and rewelded. This gave me plenty of room on the shifter. I'm 5'10" and I really like the lower pegs. Feels less cramped to me. This did make my brake a little high, but I'm pretty sure I can adjust it down a little. Just another thing to think about!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:26 PM   #64436
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Since it is a 2012 and the unpopular Gray color maybe you can use that as leverage. Mine is the white one which is the most popular color so they were pretty damn firm. But I got em down a bit.
White? You guys are on crack! Black is best!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:42 PM   #64437
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Oh boy....can of worms opened....
Definately! But us boys LOVE worms!

Just that some of us like red wigglers, some like pink worms, and some like NIGHT CRAWLERS!

So, there will be many different suggestions, it depends a lot on the type of riding, and there what's good for one of us may not be a priorioty for someone else. Ultimately, that's why we call it customizing, you need to consider all the upgrades and choose the ones that fit you and your budget.



First get familiar with http://www.procycle.us/ and http://www.kientech.com . There are some cool parts available elsewhere, some of which can't be had from Kientech or Procycle, but these are two of the best for what they do.

Second, it's going to take a while to read all 4300+ pages and almost 65000 posts in the big DR650 thread so to make it a little easier to get started check out the DR650 index

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=32


Here are my thoughts off the top of my head...

#1 - remove the top chain roller and replace with a set screw.
#2 - evaluate the seat and decide if it will work for you.
#3 - if riding off road, look at a skid plate, hand guards, and a 14t front sprocket
#4 - if you weigh over about 180 lbs you may want to mod the suspension to your weight
#5 - decide if you want to play around with the stock carb or get an FCR or TM pumper, exhaust (aftermarket or GSXR) and open the airbox.

along the way, take your time, enjoy the bike, learn what others have done to theirs, and RIDE!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:43 PM   #64438
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BadDogMax;18699580]I spent a half a day doing experiments to try and isolate the odd vibration I feel in the footpegs on light acceleration, especially in 5th gear.

I tried to check everything that was suggested after the last video
Without going back to see what was already tried and suggested I would check your chain for sticky links and your tire balance. Both could show as dramatic symptoms on your hanging suspension video yet be pretty subtle while riding.
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:15 PM   #64439
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Break In proceedure

So as far as breaking in what's the concensous?
Ride it hard, put it away wet has mostly worked in the past
Is there an magic milage when the motor starts 'loosening up'?
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:29 PM   #64440
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The grey looks awesome in the flesh. Blended with black farkles.......
I agree! It's the perfect "Base Color" to Farkle upon. Everything looks awesome with a Grey back ground.
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