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Old 07-11-2012, 09:24 PM   #67006
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Nevermind, 205'd



I agree that you aren't getting the tire seated. I've had to unseat, lube, air up, unseat, lube, air up; repeatedly on some tires. Recently I had to overinflate and bounce the wheel on the ground like I was trying to bend the rim. My theory: you want to bounce the wheel with the unseated section at the top. You want to push the tire toward the problem section, you aren't trying to push that part back down into the wheel.

There are thousands of riders running tubes in tires marked 'tubless'.

That thin raised line is there to tell you the tire isn't seated.

My front wouldn't seat until I slathered it in straight Dawn (dish soap).
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:00 PM   #67007
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Come on, guys. Surely one of you have a DR headlight cowling you're willing to part with at a reasonable price, right?


I have a cowl off a '99 in white (somewhere). It is slightly differently shaped than the newer ones and less attractive. You are welcome to it if I can find it.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:46 PM   #67008
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When I bought my DR, it had the Suzuki gel seat installed. I'm really uncomfortable on it for anything more than my morning commute.

Does anyone know if the seat pan for the gel seat is the same as the stock seat?

I'm interested in getting the seat concepts foam and cover kit. If I have to buy a stock seat to start with, I may be better off saving a little extra money and get a Corbin or Sargent.
I've tried searching for this but have come up empty.

Thanks for the help everyone. Here's a pic of my toy right now.
Exactly what I did. Seat concepts was a great improvement over the treacherous gel like torture device.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:58 PM   #67009
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got my ass handed to me by the 650. This was with stock gearing. Trail starts just under 8000ft I believe, then climbs to 10,200. The 10" of ground clearance didn't do any favors either. First thing Monday I ordered 14/46

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:14 PM   #67010
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got my ass handed to me by the 650. This was with stock gearing. Trail starts just under 8000ft I believe, then climbs to 10,200. The 10" of ground clearance didn't do any favors either. First thing Monday I ordered 14/46
Fun trail, but as great as the DR650 is, not the optium bike for this one I suspect.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:18 PM   #67011
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Fun trail, but as great as the DR650 is, not the optium bike for this one I suspect.

Steve

"optimum" is one word I suppose. really, it's barely an "option"

I will try it again with new gearing and strip the luggage racks off.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:30 PM   #67012
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"optimum" is one word I suppose. really, it's barely an "option"

I will try it again with new gearing and strip the luggage racks off.
I know others use and like 14/46 but it seems way too low to me. I use an effective 15/43 (allowing for my 18" rim) and if was doing this sort of terrain routinely on the DR reckon that 15/45, or 14/42 would be low enough. I do use a lot of clutch though. Much easier to control with the clutch than throttle, especially my big Berg, aka FE650 with 63 hp at knobs and 122 kgs wet and blinged.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:42 PM   #67013
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wrong bike for application

TinkerinWstuff You need an orange 2T for that, save the DR for gravel roads and slabbin. Although i must give you respect for trying Id never try that on my DR
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:58 PM   #67014
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"optimum" is one word I suppose. really, it's barely an "option"

I will try it again with new gearing and strip the luggage racks off.
Wow, that sucked. It's why I like southern Utah, most jeep roads there are DR and geezer friendly. I wish I was tall enough to ride a bike with a real suspension.

Have you done any suspension mods; springs, emulators, shock valving?
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:54 AM   #67015
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Oh come on. Guys were doing the same thing 30 years ago with bikes that didn't weigh much less, had a third of the power, much much shittier suspension, and silly moustaches. The DR won't be super fast thorugh it but it's surprisingly capable of handling some gnarly stuff. Picking it up sucks though.

I like to think of it as warm up batting with weights. Once you get good control over the DR, any light modern orange bike or 2t will be a miracle.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:04 AM   #67016
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got my ass handed to me by the 650. This was with stock gearing. Trail starts just under 8000ft I believe, then climbs to 10,200. The 10" of ground clearance didn't do any favors either. First thing Monday I ordered 14/46

Oh yea, brings back memories of 1983 and the reason I sold the XL 600R and rode ATV's for twenty years. Reminds me of the trails in the coal hills of PA only a little smoother. I have to admit when it comes to "terrain" All Terrain Vehicles work better than dual sports. Have a go at that trail when it's covered in snow if you really want to assess the DR's terrain capabilities...



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Old 07-12-2012, 06:31 AM   #67017
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I know others use and like 14/46 but it seems way too low to me. I use an effective 15/43 (allowing for my 18" rim) and if was doing this sort of terrain routinely on the DR reckon that 15/45, or 14/42 would be low enough. I do use a lot of clutch though. Much easier to control with the clutch than throttle, especially my big Berg, aka FE650 with 63 hp at knobs and 122 kgs wet and blinged.
Did a lot of clutch slipping on that run which added to the engine temps. I saw oil temps reach 300 degrees F. I did a fair bit of reading on gearing options. Seems it's hard to know what's right for a guy until you try. That's a nice build you have there.

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Wow, that sucked. It's why I like southern Utah, most jeep roads there are DR and geezer friendly. I wish I was tall enough to ride a bike with a real suspension.

Have you done any suspension mods; springs, emulators, shock valving?
front and rear resprung for me weight, that's all at this point. Got launched quite a bit due to lack of rebound damping

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Oh come on. Guys were doing the same thing 30 years ago with bikes that didn't weigh much less, had a third of the power, much much shittier suspension, and silly moustaches. The DR won't be super fast thorugh it but it's surprisingly capable of handling some gnarly stuff. Picking it up sucks though.

I like to think of it as warm up batting with weights. Once you get good control over the DR, any light modern orange bike or 2t will be a miracle.
quite true and I've had similar thoughts. Figured if I can master that thing on the DR it would be amazing what would happen on the "right" bike for the job. Continue to get myself more fit, more practice, and the right gearing that will allow me to pick smart lines through the obstacles as opposed to charging through it will all help a lot.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:33 AM   #67018
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Tinkerin....thanks for posting the vid. Looks like a great trail and doable on the DR....just a little more work. Since I find myself in similar stuff (tried to find some singletrack pics but I guess I was too busy )...I went with the 14 tooth and pumper for more control in the knarly sections. Doable stock but as mentioned, a little clutch work. The first pic was with the stock carb, exhaust, 15 tooth, Kenda K270's, etc.

Remember one of the best parts about the DR. When you get home, pull it level, look at the site glass and say "yup, it has oil, I think I'll have a beer."
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #67019
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yup, have the FCR-MX installed as well.

will be looking hard at options to increase ground clearance. Lacing the 18" wheel on back seems like a bit of a no-brainer
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:04 AM   #67020
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Yeah, the ground clearance comes into play. I guess I just figure it's gonna hit once in a while and try to carry enough speed to avoid getting stuck. My WR450 had a lot of clearance, but then my foot was dancing in mid air looking for solid ground on a regular basis. Most of my crashes/tip overs were due to my lack of inseam. A trade off I guess.
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